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Old 05-20-2009, 05:53 PM   #1
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Price Gouging GA Dealers

Guys I posted this in the dealer list but thought you might not find it in the sea of posts so here it is so far.

Steve Rayman Chevrolet in Atlanta GA, off of 41 and Windy Hill Rd.
Asking 5K-15K over sticker on all models
http://www.steveraymanchevy.com/?cs:...FRJdxwod31tg2w

Carl Black Chevy, Pontiac, and Buick in Kennesaw, GA off of Barett Parkway.
Asking 5K over sticker.
http://www.carlblackkennesaw.com/
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Old 05-20-2009, 06:25 PM   #2
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Well i know that 5 over is the standard for dealers but anything over that is insane. I got a dealer to sell me a 2ss at msrp price when im ready to buy.
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Old 05-21-2009, 12:08 PM   #3
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anyone who pays over sticket (at worse) is a damn fool. The dealers asking over sticker are greedy bastards who will never get any of my business
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Old 05-21-2009, 12:16 PM   #4
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I actually told that to the salesman at Steve Rayman when I was looking at their 2LT.
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Old 05-21-2009, 12:25 PM   #5
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gotta love greed:( we are at msrp and have ordered the 40th or 41st car now cant give firm delivery dates any more than anyone else, but we are definitely in the vette and maro business
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Old 05-21-2009, 12:40 PM   #6
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People were paying over msrp for the pt cruisers when they came out also.
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Old 05-21-2009, 12:41 PM   #7
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People were paying over msrp for the pt cruisers when they came out also.
and a bunch of other cars over the years. their right to do it, but not a real good practice to be in
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Old 05-21-2009, 08:38 PM   #8
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We were at Team Chevrolet in Alpharetta a few weeks back where they were selling their Camaros around 3k above MSRP (and I know the sales guy from there posts on the boards). Just visited Andean Chevrolet and the price is "market value." I asked the sales guy what exactly they wanted and it the answer was that was to be determined, but certainly well over the MSRP.

I understand supply and demand, but here GM has willing customers when they are few and far between and these dealers are price gouging when they should consider themselves lucky to have a sale in this environment.

I asked out of curiosity about GMS pricing and was told that won't be for a long time. Not that I didn't expect that, but it's amazing how certain dealers know how to turn potential customers into ones who'll never step on their lot again.

Jim, my father in-law is in Austell and he's bought from you guys for years. My wife and I will be purchasing an LT2 in the coming months and it'll be well worth the 40 mile drive to buy from your dealership as he's always had good things to say about your dealership.
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Old 05-21-2009, 09:47 PM   #9
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Hardy Chevrolet in Gainesville has told me they are selling at msrp so maybe give them a call also.
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Old 05-21-2009, 09:56 PM   #10
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Yep. Theres a reason I go out of state when I buy most all my big ticket items. Its a shame they lose the business but thats the way it goes. I have no problem with the dealers asking what they want, I can always go somewhere else and usually do. I dont get upset about it. If you look hard enough you can always find someone that wants to earn your business.
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Old 05-21-2009, 10:10 PM   #11
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Hardy Chevrolet in Dallas sold their LT for 2K over and their 2SS for 3K over.
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Old 05-22-2009, 12:18 AM   #12
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When I was looking a few weeks ago, I found a couple dealers that wanted no more than msrp if you order; Jim Ellis Chevrolet on Peacthree Ind. and Hardy Chevrolet in Gainesville. Of course, I ran into one asking $10k over too, Steve Rayman on Cobb Pkwy, so they have now lost my business for life and I will urge friends/family to avoid them as well.

Of course, if they got a Camaro on the lot, I don't blame them for asking for a premium. It sucks and I probably wouldn't buy it, but if someone wants to pay a few extra thousand or more so they can drive it home today, let them have at it...
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Old 05-22-2009, 06:06 AM   #13
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I asked out of curiosity about GMS pricing and was told that won't be for a long time. Not that I didn't expect that, but it's amazing how certain dealers know how to turn potential customers into ones who'll never step on their lot again.

Jim, my father in-law is in Austell and he's bought from you guys for years. My wife and I will be purchasing an LT2 in the coming months and it'll be well worth the 40 mile drive to buy from your dealership as he's always had good things to say about your dealership.

Thanks for the support Alpha, tell your FIL the same please.

BTW, we are honoring GMS as well
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Old 05-22-2009, 07:07 AM   #14
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I pre-ordered my 2SS from Steve Raymond Chevy and have my quote sheet at MSRP. I will have to say though that there sales people SUCK!! I am now working with my 5th sales person since October, they won't call you back, keep you posted, nor know WTF they are doing. I have had to educated every one of them about the Camaro. And just for the recored I am also one of those stuck at 1100 but number 4 in line. Believe me, I will be calling this morning about this and if they are going to try and pull this on me I will challenge them on their commericals "regardless of profit or loss", we will see. I have considered pulling my order many times but hate to start all over again.

Thanks for the heads up guys!!
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Old 05-22-2009, 09:39 AM   #15
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Maxie Price Chevrolet in Loganville told me 5K over MSRP when I sent an inquiry from Cars.com. I told him thanks but no thanks I would take my business elsewhere. I received a call again about 3 days later saying they could order me one for 2500 over. I told him good luck with that because there numerous dealership selling them at MSRP and I already have one produced from Lou LaRiche Chevrolet in Michigan.
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Old 05-22-2009, 10:11 AM   #16
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I understand selling the ONLY dealer car you have on lot for rediculous amount, but why gouge pre-orders? It's not like they will be delivered any faster than dealer cars.
Sure it's short-sightedness on GMs part for release/production of this car(pink slips for those marketing individuals)
If I could wait, it would be when they have all colors on the lot, say by 2012. The demand should stabilize by then. It just sounds like the 'perfect' storm right now w/GM/dealers/demand is all..
And if GM is going to entice future buyers, this is NOT the way/image to present. Don't make obligations you cannot keep, if you want to survive in todays economy. You're hurting your own business future, as well as relieving dealerships of theirs. Now a majority of the 'wolves' are
showing their true colors, and your cars are going nowhere fast. May I suggest positive communication w/ dealers in efforts to relay/entice/bring back customers willing to give you $$$? Show the Govt that GM has a strong customer base support that won't allow it to fail. Don't mess up this opportune moment to shine once more..

Wouldn't it be nice to see a Camaro on every other block?

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Old 05-22-2009, 10:24 AM   #17
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In Alabama 5 k over sticker, it can sit and dry rot
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Old 05-23-2009, 10:33 AM   #18
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I went to John Thornton Chevrolet last night and was told the cars are selling for exactly msrp, not a dime over. I plan on returning on Monday to place my order for mine.
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Old 05-24-2009, 09:27 AM   #19
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I went to John Thornton Chevrolet last night and was told the cars are selling for exactly msrp, not a dime over. I plan on returning on Monday to place my order for mine.

That might have been me that told you that

although its tough to tell since we are literally seeing a hundred or more people a day on this vehicle!

come see us brother and ask for your salesman, he will appreciate it for sure!
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Old 05-25-2009, 12:46 PM   #20
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I pre-ordered my 2SS from Steve Raymond Chevy and have my quote sheet at MSRP. I will have to say though that there sales people SUCK!! I am now working with my 5th sales person since October, they won't call you back, keep you posted, nor know WTF they are doing. I have had to educated every one of them about the Camaro. And just for the recored I am also one of those stuck at 1100 but number 4 in line. Believe me, I will be calling this morning about this and if they are going to try and pull this on me I will challenge them on their commericals "regardless of profit or loss", we will see. I have considered pulling my order many times but hate to start all over again.

Thanks for the heads up guys!!
I wish you the best, and so long as you are fourth in line I wouldn't necessarily cancel my order.

As long as you have in writing that you will pay sticker and not a penny over they you should be set. There have been alot of trip ups by other members on here ordering their cars and agreeing to pay "fair market value"

While I am do not agree with paying a dealer that employs decit to tack on additional costs it is well within their right to ask more for a car due to this being a free market economy; The good side is we can go elsewhere.


That being said I was told when I was there last that they had a 2SS automatic in black coming in the next week that was going to be 45K.

In the time period that I have been up there they had a silver RS lt2, yellow LT2, Black lt1, and now this black 2ss...I know that one of those cars was their dealer alotment, the other two were orders that the buyers backed out of, so that makes this SS #3 so here you are #4...up to bat next.

Keep us informed I will be very interested to see how it goes.
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Old 05-30-2009, 02:52 PM   #21
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FYI to all of my fellow Camaro5 members... I am the General Sales Manager at Team Chevy at NorthPoint and I am ordering all Camaros AT MSRP, with only a $500 deposit. And we have already delivered 4 Camaros so far... DO NOT PAY OVER MSRP to order your new Camaro!
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Old 06-11-2009, 08:49 PM   #22
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Hardy Chevrolet in Gainesville has told me they are selling at msrp so maybe give them a call also.
Talk to Jeff Gore if anyone heads up there. He is a stand up guy and myself and family have bought several new/used cars from him.

I still get Christmas cards from him and it's been 7 years since I bought a car from him. hehe
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Old 06-12-2009, 12:07 AM   #23
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Good Augusta Dealer

Got mine from Milton Rueben in Augusta GA for MSRP. My salesman was Ray Lockamy. Good guy to work with but I knew more than he did with the help of this site.
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Old 06-12-2009, 10:02 AM   #24
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Jim,

I like Greg English a lot. The only thing that would keep me from ordering from him/y'all is that you have done SO well that your queue is pretty darn long, and I am on the other side of Atlanta

Did you say you're honoring GMS supplier discounts on Camaro orders? Just say the word, and I will be down there in a jiffy to place my order
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Old 06-12-2009, 10:05 AM   #25
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I think everyone by now knows who the real d-bag Chevy dealers in ATL are...Carl Black, Steve Rayman, and Hendricks. I hope they absolutely choke on their inventory.

The beauty of capitalism is that if we REALLY mean business, we'll drive those turds out of business OR force them to readjust their pricing scheme. Unfortunately, impatient buyers tell them that they're doing the smart thing.

Now, ORDERING a vehicle for anything other than MSRP shouldn't be expected. You shouldn't expect to pay less than sticker for a special order, but you sure as hell shouldn't have to pay more. Ordinarily, I say only Gentiles pay retail
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