ZL1 vs GT500 This Friday.

[mlee]

Originally Posted by 96kb

what .... 100% stock ? Lightweight drag rims , rear slicks and front skinnies ,it sure makes it 100% stock

auto car in -1600 DA

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[kbar4782]

Originally Posted by 96kb

what .... 100% stock ? Lightweight drag rims , rear slicks and front skinnies ,it sure makes it 100% stock

auto car in -1600 DA

I believe a large topic of this conversation was leaning towards lack of power resulting in the bad et's. I think he was just trying to point out that th biggest problem with the slower and expected times are due to traction issues/launching the car

[bcwolf]

I have a question while on this topic. My previous Camaro (2010SSRS). I have a full set of Race Compound tires mounted on stock 2010 SS wheels that I used once on a Road Course. Do you guys think they would fit on the ZL1 and would they preform better than the stock ZL1 tires? Trying not to wear down the news ones on the Road Course and would use the RC tires??

[E.T.]

Just for reference, here's how the SS stacks up...

I ran a GT500 the other night. Not sure what year (but I don't think it was a '13) and not sure of mods. He got me by about a second. Of course, I don't have a ZL1, but those GT500s are pretty quick. DA was around 2900.

Anyway, tough break, but I don't think that was really a fair fight. Ford really seems to have made a beast. As long as you had a good time, that's what it's about

[alyssasdad]

Originally Posted by mlee

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Good catch brother!!

[Norm Peterson]

Originally Posted by hognutz

Nobody goes to the drags for the first time and run best ET <snip> so don't swet it. Next time out your nerves will be better and your times will come down.

Fixed that for you.

In identical cars, bwolf or most anybody else would beat me on reaction time alone . . .


Norm

[GrabberB5.Slow]

Originally Posted by 69NMYSS

Don't we have a ZL1 bone stock on DRs running mid 11's? I could swear I remember one of the C5 members posting this?

Found it. Was on slicks, but 100% stock.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...ighlight=11.43

Yeah big and little slicks and a Nitto 555R Drag Radial are 2 completely different outcomes. Still a better time then most I've seen though.

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by 69NMYSS

Don't we have a ZL1 bone stock on DRs running mid 11's? I could swear I remember one of the C5 members posting this?

Found it. Was on slicks, but 100% stock.

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showth...ighlight=11.43

Thats more like 95% stock. 100% stock would be the way the car rolled off the assembly line.

[camarofreak]

Originally Posted by 2ndCamaro79

watched the vid:( ...... c'mon GM lets not let the 5th generation end like this.......... Power Bump for president in 2014:flag1:

[HumanWiki]

Wow that MPH was terrible, ET isn't great either.

On a 95°F day in Byron, IL I went 12.0x at 120 on an SS on burned out PZeros and OE wheels. That's with a 2.0x 60'.. Hell, I was consistenly getting 12.0x-12.2x that day hot lapping all in the 118-120MPH range. I don't have the ZL1 tires, PTM or gearing either..

[96kb]

Originally Posted by mlee

:troll:

Yeah I'm a troll that is telling the truth, maybe you should pull your head out off your a..s and finally wake up

Truth hearts ,right ? Looks like you're the one that is trying to cover all that up.

ZL1 has some serious issues in hot weather on road course and drag strip that needs to be fixed ASAP .

It was proven on road course before when Torq's ZL1 cooked its self with few light mods and now it was proven at the drag strip by the OP

I dropped 120lbs on my own car switching from 17'' street rims to lightweight drag rims with slicks and skinnies.Everyone that knows about racing it will tell that 120lbs from rotating weight is huge when it comes to drag racing plus the lower rolling resistance from a front skinnies helps too .

Its not like the OP ZL1 run at 85* weather and GT500 run at 60* .they both run next to each other in hot weather but ZL1 trapped 111mph and GT500 125mph. How do you explain that besides heat soak ?


If you seriously think a pullied ZL1 with stalled auto will perform great at road course then I don't know what to tell you.

[69NMYSS]

Originally Posted by GrabberB5.Slow

Yeah big and little slicks and a Nitto 555R Drag Radial are 2 completely different outcomes. Still a better time then most I've seen though.

Yes, slicks and DR's will make a big difference indeed. Nonetheless, I think it shows, part of the low times can be related to traction.

BTW, I love that hood on your ride, looks beastly with that grabber blue.

[69NMYSS]

Originally Posted by 96kb

Yeah I'm a troll that is telling the truth, maybe you should pull your head out off your a..s and finally wake up

Truth hearts ,right ? Looks like you're the one that is trying to cover all that up.

ZL1 has some serious issues in hot weather on road course and drag strip that needs to be fixed ASAP .

It was proven on road course before when Torq's ZL1 cooked its self with few light mods and now it was proven at the drag strip by the OP

I dropped 120lbs on my own car switching from 17'' street rims to lightweight drag rims with slicks and skinnies.Everyone that knows about racing it will tell that 120lbs from rotating weight is huge when it comes to drag racing plus the lower rolling resistance from a front skinnies helps too .

Its not like the OP ZL1 run at 85* weather and GT500 run at 60* .they both run next to each other in hot weather but ZL1 trapped 111mph and GT500 125mph. How do you explain that besides heat soak ?


If you seriously think a pullied ZL1 with stalled auto will perform great at road course then I don't know what to tell you.

82hp and 250+lb weight advantage dosent hurt

[HumanWiki]

Originally Posted by 69NMYSS

82hp and 250+lb weight advantage dosent hurt

No, but it shows clearly how false the "11s all day long" statements are and how they should be preceded with an * and followed by a lengthy explanation.

[C5RocksC5]

Originally Posted by HumanWiki

No, but it shows clearly how false the "11s all day long" statements are and how they should be preceded with an * and followed by a lengthy explanation.

I am not trying to me a smart-ass but can you elaborate this?

[HumanWiki]

Originally Posted by pdari

I am not trying to me a smart-ass but can you elaborate this?

There's a couple times where "11s all day long" as been mentioned with regard to ZL1 1/4 mi times, yet, in the real world, it's been shown over and over to not be that easy.. So, just like all the commercials floating about making grandiose claims that have that tiny print at the bottom.. I think this one needs print like that.

[96kb]

Originally Posted by Norm Peterson

Fixed that for you.

In identical cars, bwolf or most anybody else would beat me on reaction time alone . . .


Norm

Reaction time has nothing to do with 1/4 mile times .I had 3 seconds reaction time before and still went mid 10's. clock doesn't star until car moves and trips the laser beam.That's why you see so many magazines test cars with 1 foot roll out

[mlee]

Originally Posted by 96kb

Reaction time has nothing to do with 1/4 mile times .I had 3 seconds reaction time before and still went mid 10's. clock doesn't star until car moves and trips the laser beam.That's why you see so many magazines test cars with 1 foot roll out

It has a LOT to do with who wins the race. Pretty sure he knows what he's talking about.

[C5RocksC5]

Originally Posted by HumanWiki

There's a couple times where "11s all day long" as been mentioned with regard to ZL1 1/4 mi times, yet, in the real world, it's been shown over and over to not be that easy.. So, just like all the commercials floating about making grandiose claims that have that tiny print at the bottom.. I think this one needs print like that.

Thank you. Ok, that makes sense now. Yah, I have been reading back to threads from months ago and I do remember seeing the thread about GM's claim of 11.9 1/4 on stock tires but the video showed DRs. I don't remember seeing anyone posting sub 12 runs with stock ZL1s so far. On the other hand, the GT500 seems to be sub-12 all day long.
Oh the person who think a ZL1 auto will do good on a roadcourse likely has never driven on a roadcourse.

[mlee]

Originally Posted by 96kb

Yeah I'm a troll that is telling the truth, maybe you should pull your head out off your a..s and finally wake up

Truth hearts ,right ? Looks like you're the one that is trying to cover all that up.

ZL1 has some serious issues in hot weather on road course and drag strip that needs to be fixed ASAP .

It was proven on road course before when Torq's ZL1 cooked its self with few light mods and now it was proven at the drag strip by the OP

I dropped 120lbs on my own car switching from 17'' street rims to lightweight drag rims with slicks and skinnies.Everyone that knows about racing it will tell that 120lbs from rotating weight is huge when it comes to drag racing plus the lower rolling resistance from a front skinnies helps too .

Its not like the OP ZL1 run at 85* weather and GT500 run at 60* .they both run next to each other in hot weather but ZL1 trapped 111mph and GT500 125mph. How do you explain that besides heat soak ?


If you seriously think a pullied ZL1 with stalled auto will perform great at road course then I don't know what to tell you.

ROTFLMAO... You sure put a lot of words in my mouth over one little Smiley...

[HumanWiki]

Originally Posted by pdari

Thank you. Ok, that makes sense now. Yah, I have been reading back to threads from months ago and I do remember seeing the thread about GM's claim of 11.9 1/4 on stock tires but the video showed DRs. I don't remember seeing anyone posting sub 12 runs with stock ZL1s so far. On the other hand, the GT500 seems to be sub-12 all day long.
Oh the person who think a ZL1 auto will do good on a roadcourse likely has never driven on a roadcourse.

What really killed it for me was the 1.69/1.7x 60's claimed on OE tires.. Sure, if they put enough track prep down to remove the skin from your feet as you walked over it... But, otherwise, it was an absurd claim that can't be duplicated and pretty much implied the OE tires were better than drag radials.

[GrabberB5.Slow]

Originally Posted by 69NMYSS

Yes, slicks and DR's will make a big difference indeed. Nonetheless, I think it shows, part of the low times can be related to traction.

BTW, I love that hood on your ride, looks beastly with that grabber blue.

Thanks buddy White w/ all the Black accents look killer on your ZL1, fastest color too.

[96kb]

Originally Posted by mlee

It has a LOT to do with who wins the race. Pretty sure he knows what he's talking about.

No ,unless you're a dedicated drag races which does bracket racing .It isn't the case in most people that take their cars to the track few times a year on ''test and tune days''.They don't care who crosses the line first ,who gets better ET that's what it counts

[hognutz]

Originally Posted by 96kb

Yeah I'm a troll that is telling the truth, maybe you should pull your head out off your a..s and finally wake up

Truth hearts ,right ? Looks like you're the one that is trying to cover all that up.

ZL1 has some serious issues in hot weather on road course and drag strip that needs to be fixed ASAP .

It was proven on road course before when Torq's ZL1 cooked its self with few light mods and now it was proven at the drag strip by the OP

I dropped 120lbs on my own car switching from 17'' street rims to lightweight drag rims with slicks and skinnies.Everyone that knows about racing it will tell that 120lbs from rotating weight is huge when it comes to drag racing plus the lower rolling resistance from a front skinnies helps too .

Its not like the OP ZL1 run at 85* weather and GT500 run at 60* .they both run next to each other in hot weather but ZL1 trapped 111mph and GT500 125mph. How do you explain that besides heat soak ?


If you seriously think a pullied ZL1 with stalled auto will perform great at road course then I don't know what to tell you.

basically your talking out your ass. you don't know if it was heat soak or the PTM mode stepping in that killed the trap speed.

both will due it I hate to say.

so your are a troll every post you make is negative without first hand experience.

I will say it again I think the launch control on the ZL1 is a Joke. every et I see with it completely sucks. so when someone posts they used launch control and then you bring in all this heak soak argument without IAT's logged you are making huge assumptions.

It could be a combination of both. there is not enough data though to make the statements your are making.

[A-little-perspective]

Originally Posted by HumanWiki

What really killed it for me was the 1.69/1.7x 60's claimed on OE tires.. Sure, if they put enough track prep down to remove the skin from your feet as you walked over it... But, otherwise, it was an absurd claim that can't be duplicated and pretty much implied the OE tires were better than drag radials.

I am surprised GM hasn't addressed those claims made in that press release. It is pretty evident that if a stock ZL1 breaks into the 11's it is the exception. The end of summer will provide a lot of insight though.