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vandervortadam · 07-13-2012, 12:44 PM

Just wondering what i should do? How different are the power gains? Sound ? Thanks

fldrummer · 07-13-2012, 01:19 PM

Shorties make a little to no power ( trust me, I've had some before; the cats are the biggest restriction). Go long-tubes. You won't regret it.

Apex Chase · 07-13-2012, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by fldrummer

Shorties make a little to no power ( trust me, I've had some before; the cats are the biggest restriction). Go long-tubes. You won't regret it.

Long tubes are the way to go. Borla makes good exhaust systems but there are better headers to be had. I would recommend taking a look at ARH, Stainless Works, or Stainless Power if you want to save some money.

caverman · 07-13-2012, 05:13 PM

If you were to change your cats to HF cats if you were to do shorties you'll probably see some gains. You would see more with LTs though.

The restriction in the exhaust is mostly in the cats more than the stock exhaust manifolds.

Go shorties and HF cats if you want do do something without tuning your car. If you're okay with tuning then spend your money on LTs.

JWMotoring · 07-14-2012, 08:53 AM

I would suggest LG Motorsports' long tube headers. Forget the shorties.

TRIPWIRE · 07-14-2012, 10:13 AM

gotta go with the longtube headers! i would recommend kooks

badazss · 07-14-2012, 11:54 AM

I have stainless power lt headers and high flow cats
I got them from apex
I would say they are top notch for the money
I would recommend them to everyone
Denny

vandervortadam · 07-14-2012, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badazss

I have stainless power lt headers and high flow cats
I got them from apex
I would say they are top notch for the money
I would recommend them to everyone
Denny

What else would i need if i bought them from apex with catted mid pipe to makethem work?

Apex Chase · 07-15-2012, 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badazss

I have stainless power lt headers and high flow cats
I got them from apex
I would say they are top notch for the money
I would recommend them to everyone
Denny

Thank you for you business and the recommendation.

Quote:

Originally Posted by vandervortadam

What else would i need if i bought them from apex with catted mid pipe to makethem work?

They include everything needed for installation, however, I do recommend swinging by you local Chevy dealer and picking up a new set of header gaskets rather than using the supplied sealant. Actually, there is no reason we can't save you the trip and just add them to your order if you like. All hardware is included as is O2 extensions and high flow cats.

2SS45th · 07-15-2012, 11:45 AM

I have Stainless Works headers and they are great! I'm pretty sure that Stainless Power are very similar ecause they are made by SW, but don't take my word for it.

LBV · 07-15-2012, 02:07 PM

I'm surprised that no one seems to make mid-length headers for the Camaro like Kooks does for the G8. ... kinda the best of both the shorty & the long-tube together in my mind.

You get the hi-flow cat and it mates right up to any catback so no worries about scraping the cats on LT's over speed bumps, etc.

http://marylandspeed.com/kooks-mid-l...ty-p-2418.html

07-13-2012, 12:44 PM	#1
vandervortadam Drives: 2010 Camaro 2ss black 21's Join Date: May 2012 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 101	Borla shorty headers or lt's Just wondering what i should do? How different are the power gains? Sound ? Thanks

07-13-2012, 01:19 PM	#2
fldrummer "Black Ace" Drives: 2SS/RS black/black Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Posts: 1,446	Shorties make a little to no power ( trust me, I've had some before; the cats are the biggest restriction). Go long-tubes. You won't regret it. __________________ 2010 2SS/RS M6 "Black Ace" - Delivered 6/4/2009 Mods: Maggie TVS 2300 SC, Spinmonster cam (230/234, .613/.598, 114+1) installed & dyno tuned by Lashway Motorsports, Richmond 4.10 gears, CAI Inc. intake w/ ADM scoop, XS Power full exhaust (1 7/8" LT headers with 3" off-road pipes), VMAX CNC-ported TB, LSR adjustable sway bars, LPE rear end-links, BMR 1" drop, BMR polyurethane differential & cradle bushings; UMI trailing arms & toe rods. 568 rwhp/493 rwtq (conservative mustang dyno, 5 lbs. [bleeding] boost).

07-13-2012, 05:13 PM	#4
caverman Drives: '69 SS Convertible Join Date: May 2009 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 6,353	If you were to change your cats to HF cats if you were to do shorties you'll probably see some gains. You would see more with LTs though. The restriction in the exhaust is mostly in the cats more than the stock exhaust manifolds. Go shorties and HF cats if you want do do something without tuning your car. If you're okay with tuning then spend your money on LTs. __________________ *-2010 Camaro* 2SS \| M6 \| VR w/White Stripes \| 1 3/4" KOOKS - 3" Magnaflow \| LPE 3.91 gears \| ADM tuned \| Halltech w/ADM Scoop \| Spohn/BMR Trailing Arm/Toe Rod \| BC Coilovers\| Pedders FE4 ZL1 swaybars \| Cradle/Diff/Radius Rod bushings \| VMax TB \| Morimoto Projectors \| MGW shifter \| Red Calipers Build Journal

07-14-2012, 11:54 AM	#7
badazss SS-500HP Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS RJT Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Cranberry Twp Pa Posts: 386 View My Garage	I have stainless power lt headers and high flow cats I got them from apex I would say they are top notch for the money I would recommend them to everyone Denny __________________ 2ssrs m6 Red jewel tintcoat Daily Driver 05 silverado ext cab z71 My Build Journal http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103089

07-15-2012, 11:45 AM	#10
2SS45th Drives: 2012 45th SS, 2006 Dodge Cummins Join Date: May 2012 Location: Arvada, Colorado Posts: 1,988 View My Garage	I have Stainless Works headers and they are great! I'm pretty sure that Stainless Power are very similar ecause they are made by SW, but don't take my word for it. __________________ LSX416 Blown & Sprayed, hunting for 9s! But for now, just pissed at limp mode, best slip: I don't wanna talk about it. Build below:

07-14-2012, 08:53 AM	#5
JWMotoring Drives: C5 Corvette Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Oklahoma City Posts: 2,069	I would suggest LG Motorsports' long tube headers. Forget the shorties.

07-14-2012, 10:13 AM	#6
TRIPWIRE Mac smells like Ballsweat Drives: 2010 Camaro 2ss Aqua Blue Metallic Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Germantown,MD Posts: 518 View My Garage	gotta go with the longtube headers! i would recommend kooks

07-15-2012, 02:07 PM	#11
LBV Drives: G8 GXP manual Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 131	I'm surprised that no one seems to make mid-length headers for the Camaro like Kooks does for the G8. ... kinda the best of both the shorty & the long-tube together in my mind. You get the hi-flow cat and it mates right up to any catback so no worries about scraping the cats on LT's over speed bumps, etc. http://marylandspeed.com/kooks-mid-l...ty-p-2418.html __________________ 2009 GXP, Manual with Sunroof Zeta platform, LS3,TR6060 tranny ... ya, it's a 4-dr Camaro! Borla cat-back, H&R springs, & Sprintbooster & I love it!