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Old 05-22-2009, 09:04 AM   #1
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The 'Traitor' lays down the law on his decision..

*Steps up to the podium*

"Ahem"

*Spins around a chalk board with a few points scribbled in Engineering grade chicken scratch*

So, as many of you know I have decided at this time against purchasing the Camaro as a college graduation present to myself. And as such I feel as if some feel ostracized and betrayed by this move. And let me tell you, I'm in your shoes as well. After driving the car, I couldn't believe that I had done it and liked it..

Left me with a sour taste in my mouth. I mean, it wasn't as roomy as the Camaro and didn't have the EVILGURR looks that the Camaro has.. but:

-Z Plan
-Local Dealership Connections
-Family Connections to salespeople
-Track record with Ford Repair shops
-V8 for under 30K after taxes FTMFW!

These, along with the new 5.0L motor and ease at which I can rig up a Track Package on my own make the Mustang the ideal budget muscle car for myself after I leave college with an asinine amount of loan debt over my noggin.

So I will also say, in closing, that I haven't given up on the Camaro. By 2014 I hope to find a cheap 1SS to put some cash down and take home. For now, however, the Mustang seems like the logical choice for someone like myself short of BUYING AN ECONOBOX/IMPORTHYBRIDPOS!

Now which is better: Econobox Import or American Muscle? Seriously guys. Where's the civil Camaro5 that I saw when I joined last fall?
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Old 05-22-2009, 09:07 AM   #2
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GRRRRRRRRRRR

You can pick up a 4th gen for a good price

S'okay, you can drive an ugly car as long as it's American
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Old 05-22-2009, 09:18 AM   #3
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Dude it's really a good car. My Mom, sister, two of my neices, sons girlfreind, sister-in-law, and mother-in-law drive Mustangs and they LOVE them.
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Old 05-22-2009, 09:21 AM   #4
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Dude it's really a good car. My Mom, sister, two of my neices, sons girlfreind, sister-in-law, and mother-in-law drive Mustangs and they LOVE them.
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Old 05-22-2009, 09:22 AM   #5
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I have a feeling that there will be others following in your footsteps also with challenger especially the way some dealerships are using "market conditions"
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Old 05-22-2009, 09:24 AM   #6
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I've had my thoughts of purchasing a Challenger because with some of the independent dealers closing will discount lower than MSRP, and we need a car now. The Camaro is for my wife, (currently behind the wheel of my beloved Avalanche) she takes me to work at 7am and picks me up at 5:30ish. She LOVES the Challenger but it does not come w/heated seats like my truck unless you get the SRT8. Plus I work at a Chevrolet dealership so you really cant beat dealer invoice + TTL. We ordered a Black on Black 2LT/RS 10/13 and has been @ 3000 since 4/21. Total around 29K so I think worth the wait. Anyway, congrats on graduating, good luck, and I'm sure you will enjoy any new vehcile you get.
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Old 05-22-2009, 09:24 AM   #7
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GRRRRRRRRRRR

You can pick up a 4th gen for a good price

S'okay, you can drive an ugly car as long as it's American
I agree the 4th gen is pretty ugly.
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Old 05-22-2009, 09:25 AM   #8
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Dude it's really a good car. My Mom, sister, two of my neices, sons girlfreind, sister-in-law, and mother-in-law drive Mustangs and they LOVE them.
looks like you are the black sheep of the family!
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Old 05-22-2009, 09:26 AM   #9
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You can pick up a 4th gen for a good price
That hasn't been beat to hell and back? That isn't marked up to high heaven because the owner thinks they have gold on their hands because it's a 2002?

Sometimes I don't know why I even bother if the Kool-Aid was really that strong.

And just so some of you know, and I'll beat it home again: Look at invoice. Add a rebate incentive to that of say..2K. That's what I'd be paying on a Camaro if GM had something like a Z plan. But I don't have that luxury. I do have it for the Mustang..
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Old 05-22-2009, 09:52 AM   #10
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Zabo, you say the word and I'll close the thread.

Furthermore, if you've been offended I'd like to know that as well. For even more clarification, if 'I've offended you I'd like to know as well.

No body can fault you for getting a Mustang.

Obviously we'd rather not see you Fdjizm pal'n around.

Do what you have to do. Just don't fault us for missing the old Zabo.

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Old 05-22-2009, 10:05 AM   #11
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Dude it's really a good car. My Mom, sister, two of my neices, sons girlfreind, sister-in-law, and mother-in-law drive Mustangs and they LOVE them.
Zing!

Quit justifying yourself and enjoy your car. You like it, you know it's nice, so move on and don't look back.
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Old 05-22-2009, 10:09 AM   #12
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I think you made the right choice. In the end it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks but you. I think that is going to be one hell of a car and you are going to be driving it!

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Old 05-22-2009, 10:36 AM   #13
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I have said it before: I respect anyone who is willing to put their cash on the line to put a car under their butt...your money, your choice. Enjoy it and don't forget to post some photos.
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Old 05-22-2009, 10:54 AM   #14
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Zabo, you say the word and I'll close the thread.

Furthermore, if you've been offended I'd like to know that as well. For even more clarification, if 'I've offended you I'd like to know as well.

No body can fault you for getting a Mustang.

Obviously we'd rather not see you Fdjizm pal'n around.

Do what you have to do. Just don't fault us for missing the old Zabo.

Thanks gtahvit. And the Old Zabo isn't gone.. he isn't bereft of life, doesn't cease to be..

He's just resting. You know my stance, but if you want to voice your support, that's why I posted this thread. But if there is continual bashing of the Mustang, and god forbid a derail into political BS at my expense, I'll order it closed at the drop of a hat.

Don't be mad at a poor college student that realized that STUDENT LOANS took priority over a BADASS CAR.

Oh, and just so you know.. I still harbor hate for some Stangbangers. Just as I always hated the Mulleteers that gave Camaro Fans the Mullet Moniker. There's still some good left under this black armored shell. XD
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Old 05-22-2009, 11:06 AM   #15
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Tag's Gen 4 is for sale, looks like a nice car. You may like it better than a Stang.
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Old 05-22-2009, 12:48 PM   #16
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looks like you are the black sheep of the family!
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Zing!

Quit justifying yourself and enjoy your car. You like it, you know it's nice, so move on and don't look back.
You guys didn't get the joke.

Zabo man, completely understand. Just kind of a shocker the other day when you mentions your thoughts. Enjoy the car. It's still an American classic.
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Old 05-22-2009, 01:08 PM   #17
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Zabo,

Hey its your choice, and glad it's atleast american. Look at it this way, somebody has to buy mustangs so us Camaro guys have something to race
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Old 05-22-2009, 01:15 PM   #18
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You guys didn't get the joke.
I did miss it!!!!
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Old 05-22-2009, 01:35 PM   #19
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I did miss it!!!!
I'm surprised. I got it but didn't want to give him more fuel for the "Oh you have a girly car" joke. Hey, at least it isn't a Prius.

That would be evil.
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Old 05-22-2009, 01:40 PM   #20
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I'm surprised. I got it but didn't want to give him more fuel for the "Oh you have a girly car" joke. Hey, at least it isn't a Prius.

That would be evil.
You can give us the goods on the rival. Can't wait to hear your reveiw on the Stang.
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Old 05-22-2009, 04:05 PM   #21
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It'll be a while..

Look for it sometime late winter/early spring 2010.
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Old 05-22-2009, 04:32 PM   #22
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Well I can't understand it! Then again the mustang has never done anything for me. I can look at a 60ish and appreciate that it is all restored and congratulate the owner for that though. Another then again, the new Vettes don't grab me either. The Camaro on the other hand.......... If it wasn't for the Camaro I wouldn't even be buying a car right now. Best of luck with it Zabo. BTW that wasn't a joke. Lee designed it for the young secretary!
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Old 05-22-2009, 04:36 PM   #23
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Your all over the place. I'll believe it when you have it in your driveway.
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Old 05-22-2009, 04:50 PM   #24
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BTW that wasn't a joke. Lee designed it for the young secretary!
Yeah.. and we know what that caused..

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Your all over the place. I'll believe it when you have it in your driveway.
I get that a lot.
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You know you're gonna get some flack for a decision like that... But it's all good, a man has to do what he has to do.
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