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Old 03-31-2014, 01:11 PM   #1
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getting used to shifting on the ls3

I just got an ls3 SS last week after trading in my 2LT RS. The old one was an auto, but the new one is manual, which I love, but I keep having one problem. My shift into second keeps grinding if I try to shift pretty quickly. I am used to just pulling straight back to get into second but it seems to want to go back and to the left. Has anyone else had this problem? Just curious if it is common or just me or my car? thanks in advance
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Old 03-31-2014, 01:16 PM   #2
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Every time you grind a shift you are damaging the synchronizers.Eventually it will not go into gear at all...avoid the grind or transmission rebuilds are in your near future.
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Old 03-31-2014, 01:17 PM   #3
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I don't have an LS3 but I've read many posts where people talk about the "2nd gear grind".

Look here:

https://www.google.com/search?q=2nd+...ww.camaro5.com
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Old 03-31-2014, 01:20 PM   #4
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Not that I've noticed.

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I just got an ls3 SS last week after trading in my 2LT RS. The old one was an auto, but the new one is manual, which I love, but I keep having one problem. My shift into second keeps grinding if I try to shift pretty quickly. I am used to just pulling straight back to get into second but it seems to want to go back and to the left. Has anyone else had this problem? Just curious if it is common or just me or my car? thanks in advance
Unless something is wrong with the shift gate it's straight back.

Remember when you are out just shifting slowly trying to make the shifts smooth and slipping the clutch to do so, you can get into bad habits.

The leg extension for the clutch will not require you to put the clutch all the way to the floor for slow shifting, but when going quick, you have to get that clutch pedal most of the way down. Like you are trying to put your foot through the floor. Especially true if you are barely letting up on the throttle or not letting up at all ( what some call power shifting).

That's why I sometimes practice faster shifting even though I am not at WOT. Gets your muscle memory into a rhythm.

Set up seat so that you get full extension and can bottom out clutch pedal when you need to.

Just my 2.345 cents

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Old 03-31-2014, 02:23 PM   #5
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Thanks for the link to that thread! I guess it's not just me but I wish I was the problem, not the car...
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Old 03-31-2014, 02:32 PM   #6
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Don't get in a hurry until you get used to it a bit. I've been driving sticks all my life but they're all a little different. Once you get smooth and have the muscle memory down, then you can go for fast shifts.
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Old 03-31-2014, 03:51 PM   #7
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reember the Skip shift thingy. buy a skip shift elmanator
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Old 03-31-2014, 03:56 PM   #8
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It doesn't have skip shift anymore. This isn't caused by letting out the clutch too early or not letting off the gas it just happens when the rpms are 3000+ or something like that. And only in second
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Old 03-31-2014, 05:51 PM   #9
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reember the Skip shift thingy. buy a skip shift elmanator

that wont cause a grind, just locks you out of 2nd. I've got a eliminator but haven't put it on, the only time I've ever seen it trigger the 1-4 message is when I was trying to make it happen. Seems like unless you drive like a grandpa it never pops up.
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Old 03-31-2014, 06:09 PM   #10
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Most likely used car problems. Maybe have a trans shop drive it, you may just need to live with it or it could be a clutch issue.
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Old 03-31-2014, 06:11 PM   #11
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Some Questions in front:

1. is your car new?

2. How cold?

3. Do you give her time to warm up?

4. First time Manual ever?

Will give you some advice learnt manual shift since my driving time and just got MY2014 in January during winter, keep cool its probably just an operating mistake.
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Old 03-31-2014, 06:18 PM   #12
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Car is not new, roughly 42,000 miles. It has the clutch and flywheel from the ls9. Happens both cold and warm. First daily driven manual but I have driven manual before and not had this issue, but the other cars were not camaros.
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Old 03-31-2014, 06:22 PM   #13
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I wonder if this is the "SS" we were told about in another post where the repo man beat the sh-t out of the Camaro,before delivered for auction resale.
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Old 03-31-2014, 06:41 PM   #14
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I vote that whomever put those 42k miles on it was a crappy driver.
Mine is finicky in second when cold, and occasionally when 'performance' shifting, but it still goes in-just hard
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Old 03-31-2014, 06:44 PM   #15
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I have ridden with the former owner and he didn't seem to have a problem, but he also never shifted very hard into second. He said he did not have them problem I'm having, but I don't know that I should trust everything someone selling me something says. I hope I am the problem and not the car, I can adjust and it's much cheaper if I am the problem!
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Old 03-31-2014, 07:08 PM   #16
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Try, what even helped me with the brandnew Tremec 6060

first give the trans time to warm up, needs more time between shifts when the car is cold, really step from the gas and hit the clutch, like slow motion, put the next gear in, then release the clutch and then step on the gas. Be just smooth, if the gear will not go in the speed is the problem, donīt force it, let the car go slower and try again, if it slips in is good. Do this for the first time and go smooth that the trans get used to your shifting habits. I mean with a car of 42k miles you should expect its driven in but if you had an .... "shiftidiot before you" you don't know.

If that works easy for you, try on country roads and drive that baby in, downshifts, upshifts, break with the engine too thatīs breaking in the synchro rings too. If you do that for quite a time that Manual should go as you go! Or really somebody f...ed up before you.

My one goes so smooth right know and just slips in, fantastic.

I know too some SS have problems (Tremec 6060 with the 2nd gear) but I canīt imagine after 42k miles that's still present or the pre owner didnīt do sh.. .about it
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Old 03-31-2014, 07:11 PM   #17
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Thanks for the advice! I'll try that
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Old 03-31-2014, 07:12 PM   #18
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Thanks for the advice! I'll try that
Just try to get the car used to your driving style, you never know how it was driven before.
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also if its not already done, put a clutch reservoir on it and change the clutch fluid... might help you get faster and more complete clutch releases.
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It has a reservoir, but new fluid is probably a good idea
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Old 03-31-2014, 07:19 PM   #21
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also if its not already done, put a clutch reservoir on it and change the clutch fluid... might help you get faster and more complete clutch releases.
Can be even that if the trans oil was never changed from bad shifting there is more than one little residue of metal chips in there that will be bad.
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