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Old 12-29-2007, 05:08 PM   #1
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Leaked Pictues of the Mazda RX-9

http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/t...the-mazda-rx-9
Not bad...Not bad at all.

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Old 12-29-2007, 05:24 PM   #2
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lol 1.8 liters. Well, looks nice atleast :P
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Old 12-29-2007, 05:39 PM   #3
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lol 1.8 liters. Well, looks nice atleast :P
Keep this in mind, that "lol 1.8 litters", as you put it, will make better than 250hp . Not bad for 1.8 liters.
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Old 12-29-2007, 05:55 PM   #4
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I like it. Very slick looking. Where did you hear that 250hp figure from? The RX-8s rotary engine is a tad weak, so it would be great to see it get some good power figures.
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Old 12-29-2007, 06:02 PM   #5
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I like it. Very slick looking. Where did you hear that 250hp figure from? The RX-8s rotary engine is a tad weak, so it would be great to see it get some good power figures.
That's the rumor in Mazda land. I believe it considering that the RX8 had 238hp.

I owned a 1993 RX7 R1. That was the best handleing car I've driven to date, and was very quick. Too bad it was so expensive to fix otherwise I'd still have it.
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Old 12-29-2007, 10:07 PM   #6
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Don't those engines have nasty durability problems?
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Old 12-29-2007, 10:27 PM   #7
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Don't those engines have nasty durability problems?
Yes sir, the word around the block is just this... maybe some mazda owners or people that own a rotary engine car can chime in... I would like to know more about this myself.

But ahh-dunno about that car yet..... looks like a beefed up RX-8 really... I suppose its nice.
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Old 12-29-2007, 10:33 PM   #8
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It's a very robust engine design. I don't know about the Mazda's specifically - but, imagine a VERY mild cam with 3 distinct 'lobes', and 3 "razor blades" on each corner where the 'lobes' meet. This is the crankshaft, rings, pistons, and camshaft all in one, basically. This crank is pretty much the only moving part. These blades constantly drag around the "cyllinder wall" to seal the separate chambers. <= So I can imagine some durability issues among other things.....


I only have a limited understanding of rotary engines, and they're definitely different............................
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Old 12-29-2007, 10:48 PM   #9
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Yeah, and each chamber acts more or less like a cylinder. And I do believe it is the contact points that wear out in wankels (rotaries). But they are supposed to offer very good power out of a small package
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Old 12-29-2007, 11:35 PM   #10
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Keep this in mind, that "lol 1.8 litters", as you put it, will make better than 250hp . Not bad for 1.8 liters.
I'm not laughing at how much "power" it puts out. I'm just laughing because I'm not use to small motors like this. Oh, and sorry for accidentally hitting "t" twice?
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Old 12-30-2007, 12:39 AM   #11
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Yes sir, the word around the block is just this... maybe some mazda owners or people that own a rotary engine car can chime in... I would like to know more about this myself.

But ahh-dunno about that car yet..... looks like a beefed up RX-8 really... I suppose its nice.
I've had a 1984, 1989 Turbo, and a 1993 Twin Turbo. The motors are bullet proof. My 1984 had 195000 miles on it and still was running strong. However, if you overheat them, they're done. You'll destroy the apex seals and thus lose compression. Other than that it's a very robust and great design. In Japan they have a 3 rotor 2.0 liter turbo charged design in the Cosmo that puts out 300hp/300lbtq. Mazda is also the only Japanese manufacturer to win Le Mans, with the rotory engine of course.
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Old 12-30-2007, 12:45 AM   #12
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I like how the back looks from the front but am not so sure how I like how it looks from the rear....make sense? It looks like the rear should be styled differently from the front. Still...overall a nice looking ride.
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Old 12-30-2007, 12:51 AM   #13
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The rear looks kind of like a Lincoln? With the taillight design and everything. It's alright looking...
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Well, they are both owned by Ford . . .
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Old 12-30-2007, 03:00 AM   #15
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its one of those cars I would have to see in real life to see if I like it kinda thing.
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I'm not sure if they are technically "owned" by ford in a corporate way, but the two companies share many unibodies and powerplants.

The rotary engine is an amazing feat of engineering, as far as power/weight ratios go. The mazda rotary series of vehicles (RX, essentially) and their turbo performance versions have always touted the best center of gravity, often low and 50//50, and a powerful power/weight ratio... this leads to nimble, quick performance - something almost difinitive of the 'tuner' ideal.

Comparing an equally performing 90's rx-7 to, say, a 350z... I'd rather be driving the RX-7. Not to mention the cars are gorgeous.

I wasn't AS fond of the RX-8's as I was of the 7's, but the 9's seem quite nice. I still think they'll be too mainstream to carry on the finesse of the 90's RX series.

Something about the ~90's and their imports. Supras, RX-7, Skylines, yummmm.

Edit: In regards to the Wankel engine it's also capable of compressing volumes of air better than other engines, because of the way the valves/injectors function and the overall volume of the chamber. When you start looking at the high-pressure direct injection technologies that are surfacing I could imagine Wankels taking giant strides in the next several years.
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Old 12-30-2007, 05:24 AM   #17
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i like it-> but tag you are right there is something about the way it looks form the rear.
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Old 12-30-2007, 07:41 AM   #18
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Old 12-30-2007, 10:22 AM   #19
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wicked to see the rx-9. i test drove a rx-8 when i was looking at buying the mazda3, and the thing drove so nicely, and hearing it scream at 8500rpm was wicked . the rx-8 had a 1.3l and put out 212hp, which is pretty damn good for such a small motor. so this 1.8, should put around 260. and when mazda relases the mazdaspeed version it will be 300+.
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wicked to see the rx-9. i test drove a rx-8 when i was looking at buying the mazda3, and the thing drove so nicely, and hearing it scream at 8500rpm was wicked . the rx-8 had a 1.3l and put out 212hp, which is pretty damn good for such a small motor. so this 1.8, should put around 260. and when mazda relases the mazdaspeed version it will be 300+.
Over here we got a 231BHP option on the RX8... must admit i preferred the RX7 with the 50/50 weight distribution, twin turbo set up and the later models making 280BHP out of the box it is a fantastic car.
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