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Old 07-26-2012, 02:23 PM   #51
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Meh, i'd rather watch the real thing in the Grand Am series.
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Old 07-26-2012, 02:24 PM   #52
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They had to change things some just because of the rules for aero equalness between makes. Besides who would want to run at 200mph 2" from the car on either side or rear at Daytona or Talladega with the visibility the production Camaro has?
Also the car has not completed development yet, I say there will be tweaking of the final car once it's track tested.
As I said in my earlier post, it should have been the new Malibu. Nobody said that it should have been a Camaro at all. The design of the current Nationwide series cars does not lend itself to to our cars body lines. All the current cars are the shape of Checker Cabs especially in Cup. Next season the "Cup Cars" will finally be getting back to a more "stock production looking" car, but the Nationwide cars will be continuing with the current "similar" to each other aero package. I'm not a hater. I'm just sick of the sport & business (yes my business revolves around the sport) I've been involved in for nearly 40 years falling apart at the seams.
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So it's a generic tube frame car with stickers that resemble Camaro lights? Hard to get excited about that kind of "racing". Let's go back to cars right out of the showroom, throw some numbers on them and a cage in them, and let them battle it out! That's what I would watch.

YESS SIR!! I'm ther with you! Real production cars competing!
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Old 07-26-2012, 02:38 PM   #54
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Don't give a crap what a lot have posted, but I like the new Camaro Nationwide Series Car. The Mustangs in the Cup series are about the same. Seeing the "similar" Camaros and Mustangs fight it out in that style of racing is still fun for those of us that enjoy NASCAR. There are all type of racing out there for everyone to find what they enjoy watching. Me, I like it all.

Everyone that is posting how they hate it now, but if it starts winning and showing up in Victory Lane, those same people will be bitching to Chevy because they don't offer those Options when purchasing.
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Old 07-26-2012, 02:53 PM   #55
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Honestly people... give it a break, is it a knock out? NO, does it look real? NO, Its a sheet metal and fiberglass body that has to meet very very strict numerical tolerances, so it's not gonna be like what we drive. This is a prototype car and I'm sure it will change again before you see it on the track. I'm fortunate enough to be involved with a Nascar organization and trust me, stuff changes like we change clothes.... Give it some time before you kick dirt on it. Nascar is built around the fans and what they say... alot of negative can generate change.... so lets support the idea and effort.
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Old 07-26-2012, 02:58 PM   #56
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I think it is great that they are going to run the Camaro against the Mustang and the Challenger, but I wish it looked a little bit more like a Camaro. Keep in mind the Chevy they use now doesn't look much like the real one either.
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Totally agree. Check out The Rolex and Continental series -- they are especially great. Real Camaros running against real Mustangs! Woohooo!


EDIT: I just saw the pics of the NASCAR "camaro" in question -- DAMN that thing is ugly! I'm embarrassed that the Camaro name is on it. Did you see that hideous side view???



I need to see more footage of these type races I found this on you tube pretty cool. Around 1:50 was awesome he almost overtook on the inside.

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This thread is about the Camaro in the Nationwideseries not any other please refrain from posting about anything else and those that have please delete your off topic posts, thank you.
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Old 07-26-2012, 03:12 PM   #60
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I'm amazed so many Camaro guys seem to be unaware of Rolex Grand-Am and the Continental Tire Series. Camaro has a very strong road racing heritage going back to the original Trans-Am. The Nationwide car looks alright - mostly just glad the name is in the series - but real Camaro racing happens on circuits with left and right turns.
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Old 07-26-2012, 03:14 PM   #61
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i would take grand am over nascar any day of the week...driving in a circle...vs left right, increasing radius, decreasing radius, off camber, banked...banked changing to off camber while going over a rise etc etc etc....roadracing has it in spades over circle track.

and if you really wanna see where the men race, watch moto gp...nascar smaskar.....try 215mph with just a leather suit, and then having to brake very hard for a turn - and that turn might go right, lol. makes talladega look like a walk in the park.

of course this is all my opinion, obviously other feel different lol
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Old 07-26-2012, 03:29 PM   #62
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No need to be arguing about which racing series is the best. This thread was not to start a war. Geese you can't even pass on good news without a bunch of complainers coming in and trying to take over the thread. I am just sick of you all . You all just need to get over it.
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No need to be arguing about which racing series is the best. This thread was not to start a war. Geese you can't even pass on good news without a bunch of complainers coming in and trying to take over the thread. I am just sick of you all . You all just need to get over it.
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Old 07-26-2012, 03:39 PM   #64
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No need to be arguing about which racing series is the best. This thread was not to start a war. Geese you can't even pass on good news without a bunch of complainers coming in and trying to take over the thread. I am just sick of you all . You all just need to get over it.
Everyone has the right to free speech... some like it, some don't... Just relax.
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Old 07-26-2012, 03:43 PM   #65
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It looks awful!!! What the hell happened to GM saying we're not going to run the Camaro in NASCAR because the proportions from street production car to race car around the green house won't fit properly. Good grief that thing in hideous!!! I'd rather see them run a covered wagon than trying to stretch the body all out of proportion to fit. It should have been the new Malibu. This is all kinds of wrong.
Thats the thing,they didn't want to use the Camaro because of the proportions,but a lot of people were bitching-moaning-groaning-complaining saying...."we want the Camaro on the track"
So here it is
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No need to be arguing about which racing series is the best. This thread was not to start a war. Geese you can't even pass on good news without a bunch of complainers coming in and trying to take over the thread. I am just sick of you all . You all just need to get over it.
FWIW....I like it
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It looks awful!!! What the hell happened to GM saying we're not going to run the Camaro in NASCAR because the proportions from street production car to race car around the green house won't fit properly. Good grief that thing in hideous!!! I'd rather see them run a covered wagon than trying to stretch the body all out of proportion to fit. It should have been the new Malibu. This is all kinds of wrong.
When Ford and Chrysler announced it would be racing the Mustang and Challenger in the Nationwide series Many people on this forum called for Chevy to run the Camaro. The Malibu would have been a mistake because just as the Impala it does not compete with the Mustang or Challenger. NASCAR had asked for all the manufacturers to use a muscle car as their nationwide race car. Chevy at first didn't want to bastardized the shape of the Camaro. But since then the success of both the Mustang and Challanger in the Nationwide series and their popularity along with the fact the Impala will no longer be the Cup entry they felt the time was right to switch to the Camaro. In the long run I feel Toyota will be the loser since they do not make anything similar to the Camaro, Mustang or Challenger.

Is it a perfect rendition of of the Camaro, No. But just having the Camaro name in front of millions of race fans every week can't be bad.
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FWIW, I prefer road racing, but I like NASCAR, too. The best NASCAR racing all year is at the road tracks, one of which - Sonoma - is 20 minutes from here, so I get both at the same time!
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Thats the thing,they didn't want to use the Camaro because of the proportions,but a lot of people were bitching-moaning-groaning-complaining saying...."we want the Camaro on the track"
So here it is
I honestly know nothing about Nascar, Until I saw this car, I honestly thought they were all the same shape but with different designs on them.

I'm glad they got a Camaro out there, its just funny looking to me. Can't help it.
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Everyone has the right to free speech... some like it, some don't... Just relax.
Yeah but this thread is about the Camaro in NASCAR Nationwide Series, not Trans am or any other series...talking about those others is off topic. I started this thread I should have some say what is discussed in it, isn't that fair? If you want to talk about those others you can start another thread.
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Yeah but this thread is about the Camaro in NASCAR Nationwide Series, not Trans am or any other series...talking about those others is off topic. I started this thread I should have some say what is discussed in it, isn't that fair? If you want to talk about those others you can start another thread.
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Thats the thing,they didn't want to use the Camaro because of the proportions,but a lot of people were bitching-moaning-groaning-complaining saying...."we want the Camaro on the track"
So here it is
GM should have stuck to their guns and not caved to the "peer pressure." I for one would have understood maintaining and protecting the brand image of Camaro. This car is a major mistake. As I've said previously the Malibu would have made for a much better fit. Especially in the green house.
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GM should have stuck to their guns and not caved to the "peer pressure." I for one would have understood maintaining and protecting the brand image of Camaro. This car is a major mistake. As I've said previously the Malibu would have made for a much better fit. Especially in the green house.
The Fans have spoken and Chevy listened......sorry but I disagree that it's a mistake.
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Yeah but this thread is about the Camaro in NASCAR Nationwide Series, not Trans am or any other series...talking about those others is off topic. I started this thread I should have some say what is discussed in it, isn't that fair? If you want to talk about those others you can start another thread.
The topic of this thread is front page news on this site. I don't think anyone can claim it's their own private topic. This is very big news in Camaro World.
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