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Old 07-26-2012, 10:26 PM   #26
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I hope you get to dyno sometime soon....I'm really curious to see what you can put down....of course the heat sure isn't helping things. Dynoing a heat soaked LLT will really kill the numbers.
No kidding, temPs have only been in the low 100s - always a couple of 10lb bags of ice on the intake.... lol - like I haven't done that before!
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Old 07-26-2012, 10:30 PM   #27
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Who's making the CNC heads ?
There was a talk that Tracy is working with brodix on possibly bringing out brodix head for the LLT in support for double hpfp to provide the fueling issue with FI motor. Other than that if you want custom head work now you will have to go custom route. We are not currently offering head work as of yet other than full intake work but there are plenty of options if you guys really want the whole shabang perfect time to go porting and cam combo for the serious enthusiast since head install will require more than just a wrench and a screw driver same as cams.

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Old 07-26-2012, 10:34 PM   #28
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Jay, can't wait. Plan as of tonight is to install the cams and get the tune sorted with the dynos and then add the IM. Getting details worked out for the install and should be finalized in a few days. Now just need that stroker kit!

There was talk about the CNCs by Brodix with a second boss for a 2nd fuel pump. If that doesn't work out will rework my heads / meth kit.
Beat me to it lol. you are going to be in for a surprise. I was always very optimistic more than alot of folks on cams with complete port work and with a good tune on this LLT motor. I am still sticking with no less than 60-70 hopefully I won't be proved wrong.

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Old 07-26-2012, 10:35 PM   #29
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Hmm, shabang or whole shabang... I'll take a double order if whole shabang please.

Seriously, I would definitely be interested in discussing being an "early adopter" if you went into head porting.
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Old 07-26-2012, 10:39 PM   #30
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Hate to date myself but have lived the evolution from the SBC Chevy and all the combinations to the vortechs to the ls series, LLT has potential to be a serious hp maker - parts availability has to catch up to the wants and needs.
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Old 07-26-2012, 10:47 PM   #31
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Hmm, shabang or whole shabang... I'll take a double order if whole shabang please.

Seriously, I would definitely be interested in discussing being an "early adopter" if you went into head porting.
We are thinking about it but is more of a timing issue more than anything. It would be much more efficient and cheaper for a guy who actually does this for a living to provide the head job. A good angle job/bowl and full intake/exhaust is essential with cams and will always provide much much more power then cams alone. For now we have the intake manifold ready to go but if you really want the head done just contact me. I can provide you with some good contacts.

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Old 07-26-2012, 10:54 PM   #32
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Thanks, will do.
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Old 07-27-2012, 09:39 AM   #33
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Wonder what the cams alone will do?

yellow_glide...it sounds like we will find out from you?? Or are you waiting until you know what your doing with the heads?. Good stuff.
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Old 07-27-2012, 10:32 AM   #34
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Plan now is to do cams only and see what the outcome is. If someone offer me a set of Ported heads for $50 then things may change.
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Old 07-27-2012, 04:56 PM   #35
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how much for the cam and the install together all together?

I need to know so I can save that much
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Old 07-28-2012, 07:59 AM   #36
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Hate to date myself but have lived the evolution from the SBC Chevy and all the combinations to the vortechs to the ls series, LLT has potential to be a serious hp maker - parts availability has to catch up to the wants and needs.
This I 100% agree with! It's for this reason I conjure up images of building up an LLT to rev to 10k much like a Honda S2000

The main problem though, is that I don't think that these gear boxes will like 10-11k gear changes :(
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I'm thinking is tranny swap to a different unit eniirely will be needed. There are plenty of high output rated units out there the trick will be the input shaft and the overall length and shifter location. Comes down to fabrication and how you are at problem solving.

Back to the 'super v6", plenty of Buick Grand Nationals made 1000+ rwhp with a single turbo and 231 cubic inches. The LLT has the potential - we just need a few stronger parts.
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Old 07-28-2012, 10:23 AM   #38
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I'm thinking is tranny swap to a different unit eniirely will be needed. There are plenty of high output rated units out there the trick will be the input shaft and the overall length and shifter location. Comes down to fabrication and how you are at problem solving.

Back to the 'super v6", plenty of Buick Grand Nationals made 1000+ rwhp with a single turbo and 231 cubic inches. The LLT has the potential - we just need a few stronger parts.
Hey Yellow, when do you anticipate a. Receiving the cams and b. getting them installed?
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Old 07-28-2012, 10:46 AM   #39
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Six, Talked to Steve last night and they should be "in the mail" this week. Think I surprised him she said for sale and I said ship them. Lol.

Still working on the install timing - all the local names within 300 miles have declined to do it. Install looks straightforward enough but dexterity in the hands isnt what it used to be so I won't be able to do it.

Timing will depend on when / where I secure an installer.
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Old 07-28-2012, 11:38 AM   #40
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Ok Yellow, it looks like you're down right by Austin. I don't know how far away DFW and Houston are (4-5 hrs?) but I bet they have shops that will do it. Are you going to stay 100% all motor?

I'm thinking this is my next big mod. I'm off through mid Dec until Feb so prolly get it done then. I'm thinking these cams and ported heads along with your ARK N2 is going to sound like an exotic beast.
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I'm thinking is tranny swap to a different unit eniirely will be needed. There are plenty of high output rated units out there the trick will be the input shaft and the overall length and shifter location. Comes down to fabrication and how you are at problem solving.

Back to the 'super v6", plenty of Buick Grand Nationals made 1000+ rwhp with a single turbo and 231 cubic inches. The LLT has the potential - we just need a few stronger parts.
The thing is, I really want to do hi-po NA build and replace displacement with lots of revs
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I'm in for a 600 rwhp NA!!!!

Agree the hp will have to come elsewhere than cubic inches. You might pick up a little cubic inch with a stroker setup, but the real hp will be 10 k plus rpm while keeping the velocity flowing.
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Talked to a couple of shops in Dallas - they declined. Still checking though, looking for the right place which is willing to do this the right way from start to finish. I've been in and out of shops for decades - I like to have input on what the end result is so I'm a little picky.
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Ok Yellow, it looks like you're down right by Austin. I don't know how far away DFW and Houston are (4-5 hrs?) but I bet they have shops that will do it. Are you going to stay 100% all motor?

I'm thinking this is my next big mod. I'm off through mid Dec until Feb so prolly get it done then. I'm thinking these cams and ported heads along with your ARK N2 is going to sound like an exotic beast.


Six, not sure at this point if I'll stay NA. I definitely like the idea of a max effort NA build. This could be on ongoing effort for a few years - as I've said before - its only money. LOL.
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Six, not sure at this point if I'll stay NA. I definitely like the idea of a max effort NA build. This could be on ongoing effort for a few years - as I've said before - its only money. LOL.
Too late for me to stay all NA. Lol. Just finishing up the SC install. I want a solid 400-450rwhp V6 and it's not looking like the SC alone is going to get it done whether you go IPF or RX with the current fueling limitations. I'm sure we'll get there somehow someday but in the meantime I think this mod just might give it the swift kick in the pants it needs unless I'm using ricer math.
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i wonder how much itwould cost to ship my car to fl??
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Last I heard it was around 450 to 500.
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Old 07-29-2012, 07:10 PM   #49
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i wonder how much itwould cost to ship my car to fl??
depends on where you are at. have seen prices from NY to FL range from 550$ to 875$.
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