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Old 07-28-2012, 04:51 PM   #26
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No mention of just how much is invested in the Red Devil. Any clue?
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Old 07-28-2012, 04:56 PM   #27
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No mention of just how much is invested in the Red Devil. Any clue?
Mark does a lot of the work himself but there's probably at least 100k in the car. It even has ABS brakes. If you had that car built by DSE, it would probably run about $250K to replicate.
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Old 07-29-2012, 10:06 AM   #28
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Here is the Car and Driver test on Red Devil:
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...touring-review
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Old 07-29-2012, 01:07 PM   #29
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Here is the Car and Driver test on Red Devil:
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...touring-review
I was just going to post this also.
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Est. price $250,000
Engine: 427 w/ZR1 supercharger and more aftermarket performance parts
HP: 756
TQ: 804
Curb weight 3617
0-60 4.1
1/4 mile 11.8 @ 127 mph

Very awesome car. Could you imagine what he could do with the ZL1 and a 100k.
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Old 07-29-2012, 02:26 PM   #30
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Exhaust and engine sound on both are great and love the flames exit the 69's exhaust at time 5:30 something on the vid.
I immediately noticed the flames too... pretty cool .

The answer to this puzzle is simple though (and is the same answer to the GT500 problem) just change the pulley and add a CAI and tune and the ZL1 will dominate every track...it simply loses on straight line acceleration to lighter more powerful pony cars!
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Old 07-29-2012, 02:28 PM   #31
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This is a duplicate thread with:

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=240230

Please Merge?
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Old 07-29-2012, 05:11 PM   #32
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At what point does an old car become vintage sheetmetal on a new car?

I know about VINs etc, I was in the restoration hobby for 20 years.

I like the Red Devil a lot. I'd own it. But to me, this is a new car with 1969 sheetmetal on it. That's not a bad thing, it's just a thing

I'm not surprised the modded car won; the factory car wasn't built to push the envelope. It's built to be a great package that passes required testing for government ratings and to fulfill a business model.
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Old 07-29-2012, 07:47 PM   #33
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ZL1 vs 69 Red Devil Camaro

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Old 07-29-2012, 07:49 PM   #34
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I love Red Devil! The ZL1 is awesome but I'd take Red Devil all day long!
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Old 07-29-2012, 07:59 PM   #35
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Old 07-29-2012, 08:04 PM   #36
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I'm with u ctK1, I would take the Red Devil over the ZL1.
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Old 07-30-2012, 03:05 AM   #37
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Old 07-30-2012, 05:46 AM   #38
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The RedDevil is probably the best sounding Camaro I've ever heard and certainly the best done. I wouldn't expect less from a GM engineer and the application of modern technology to a 43 year old car. The performance difference between these two cars isnt as great given the 600 lb weight and 240 lb torque advantage of the 69. Kind of like bringing a knife to a gun fight.
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Old 07-30-2012, 09:35 AM   #39
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god both those cars sound sick and i really love that stock exhaust note from the ZL1
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Old 07-30-2012, 10:38 AM   #40
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5th Gen ZL1 vs 1969 Camaro

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Those sound awsome!
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Old 07-30-2012, 04:42 PM   #42
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I'm thinking the ZL1 should have about 60 more hp.
Damn dude your ZL1 looks incredible.
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Old 07-31-2012, 07:38 AM   #43
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Do not want to lose my warranty. Kind of feel like GM should offer a kit for sale through dealers that gets 60hp without losing warranty. I'm willing to buy it and after spending 60k on the car kind of feel like they owe it to the folks that bought one. Then this totally badass car won't get smoked on the dragstrip or straightaways.
the zl1 has plenty of hp gm says 580 is all we need
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Old 07-31-2012, 09:02 AM   #44
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Old 07-31-2012, 09:41 AM   #45
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Do not want to lose my warranty. Kind of feel like GM should offer a kit for sale through dealers that gets 60hp without losing warranty. I'm willing to buy it and after spending 60k on the car kind of feel like they owe it to the folks that bought one. Then this totally badass car won't get smoked on the dragstrip or straightaways.
*sigh*

Where the hell does this sense of entitlement come from? They don't owe you shit. You chose to buy the car the way it is. Now either mod it the way you want it, or stop complaining.
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Old 07-31-2012, 10:17 AM   #46
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I'm thinking the ZL1 should have about 60 more hp.
I think we'll see it with the 2014, and something crazier with the next platform.
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Old 07-31-2012, 12:36 PM   #47
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It's nice to see today's technology being able to be installed in yesterday's skin. I for one always wanted to restore a '69 Camaro, and seeing this just confirms what I really want to do. I see a fast, road/track capable Camaro in my future.
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Old 07-31-2012, 12:57 PM   #48
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See, who needs magnetic ride? I'd take a lighter car with more HP any day. Dont need a warranty when I plan on modding it anyway.
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Old 07-31-2012, 12:59 PM   #49
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Do not want to lose my warranty. Kind of feel like GM should offer a kit for sale through dealers that gets 60hp without losing warranty. I'm willing to buy it and after spending 60k on the car kind of feel like they owe it to the folks that bought one. Then this totally badass car won't get smoked on the dragstrip or straightaways.
HAHAHA...GM does offer a kit, its called a corvette...
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*sigh*

Where the hell does this sense of entitlement come from? They don't owe you shit. You chose to buy the car the way it is. Now either mod it the way you want it, or stop complaining.

Lighten up, it's his thoughts on a car that isn't living up to the numbers advertised.
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