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Old 07-30-2012, 06:28 PM   #76
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Nice driving. That Charger should have moved out the way a little sooner. Looks like everybody was having fun. Where is that track? California? Can see why you would want a 1LE now.
Circuit Mont Tremblant is NE of Ottawa, across the border in Quebec (about 100 mi. N of where Gen-4 F-cars were assembled). Formerly known as St. Jovite, in the old days, when it hosted Can Am and Trans Am. Great technical track with elevation changes indicative of the ski country its carved from.
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Old 07-30-2012, 06:29 PM   #77
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2010 Camaro SS - 3:09.50
2012 Camaro 1LE - 2:58.34
2012 Camaro ZL1 - 2:52.38

Yeah, I'd say the 1LE package is worth $3500....
The improved FE4 suspension on the '12 and '13 SS could probably shave a little time off that 3:09.50 but yes the 1LE appears to be one hell of a deal!!

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Old 07-30-2012, 06:30 PM   #78
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Circuit Mont Tremblant is NE of Ottawa, across the border in Quebec. Formerly known as St. Jovite, in the old days, when it hosted Can Am and Trans Am. Great technical track with elevation changes indicative of the ski country its carved from.
Ya, those where the good old days when my dad used to go watch these crazy drivers:
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Old 07-30-2012, 06:32 PM   #79
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Hold on a sec. I seem to remember the ZL1 beating a LS Boss by 2.45 seconds in the Motortrend test. That was by a pro driver under the same conditions. You're telling me the 1LE can beat it by four on VIR. Please! Looking forward to running into one of these on the track. Don't buy into hero runs or you'll be seriously disappointed at the track.

I will admit that was some great driving in the video. Look forward to a test by Motortrend with Randy driving.
That's half the track.

ZL1............ 1:41.3
Boss 302..... 1:43.7

A 3 minute lap is almost twice the track. That 2.4 second lap difference could be more like 4 seconds @ VIR. (I understand every track will be different)

I'll agree that the gap is probably smaller than 4 seconds, but from what we can see so far, the 1LE is no slouch! Hard to believe considering the power-to-weight ratios.
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Old 07-30-2012, 06:37 PM   #80
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Chevrolet Camaro is about to receive some major updates for the 2014 model year, but until then, the 2013 model will be getting a series of improvements to prep it for the following year. The major addition will be a new race-spec 1LE package, which will be joined by an updated interior with a new 7 inch color screen
What major updates is the camaro going to get in 2014? I didn't think the redesign was until 2015?
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Old 07-30-2012, 06:37 PM   #81
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That's half the track.

ZL1............ 1:41.3
Boss 302..... 1:43.7

A 3 minute lap is almost twice the track. That 2.4 second lap difference could be more like 4 seconds @ VIR. (I understand every track will be different)

I'll agree that the gap is probably smaller than 4 seconds, but from what we can see so far, the 1LE is no slouch! Hard to believe considering the power-to-weight ratios.
It's probably no gap at all. You can't compare lightning laps to GM hero runs. It was a nice run but lets get a third party with a pro driver to duke it out.

This will do one of two things. Show the 1LE is a heck of a performer and making the ZL1 look bad from a value perspective or not be as fast as the Boss 302 but close which would make sense looking at power to weight with no magnetic ride control.
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Now we need a F-41 suspension package available for the V6 models. All they would need to do is put the SS suspension, wheels and tires, and brembo brakes. I think people would buy it.
Thanks for the info Becky, another great reason to buy from you. You are always on top of new information.
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Old 07-30-2012, 06:42 PM   #83
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What major updates is the camaro going to get in 2014?
That is ZEE $45,000 question...
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Old 07-30-2012, 06:52 PM   #85
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Now we need a F-41 suspension package available for the V6 models. All they would need to do is put the SS suspension, wheels and tires, and brembo brakes. I think people would buy it.
Thanks for the info Becky, another great reason to buy from you. You are always on top of new information.
A V6 "track pack" with suspension, wheels, tires and brakes from the SS would be pretty cool.
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Ya, those where the good old days when my dad used to go watch these crazy drivers:
You'll notice the race sponsor was Player's...the same folks that underwrote the GM/Player's Challenge Series 20 years later that begat the 1LE...
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A V6 "track pack" with suspension, wheels, tires and brakes from the SS would be pretty cool.
Based on a 1LS, that car could come in well under-$30K...
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You'll notice the race sponsor was Player's...the same folks that underwrote the GM/Player's Challenge Series 20 years later that begat the 1LE...
Tobacco companies and car racing...it was a match made in Car heaven.
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Old 07-30-2012, 07:10 PM   #89
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This has me even more excited for the z28.
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Old 07-30-2012, 08:23 PM   #90
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I am definately impressed with this particular vehicle. I am wondering how much this package (1LE) would cost in Canada?
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Old 07-30-2012, 08:34 PM   #91
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This will do one of two things. Show the 1LE is a heck of a performer and making the ZL1 look bad from a value perspective or not be as fast as the Boss 302 but close which would make sense looking at power to weight with no magnetic ride control.

Spoken like a Mustang owner.
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Great to see. Can't say I'm surprised though! GM knows how to put together the whole package.
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Gotta love this bench racing.
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Wonder if the Camaro will get the DI engines that are going into the new trucks in 2014.
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From the video I see they still haven't fixed the creaky rear seat... Not going lie, I closed my eyes a little at the first "hairpin" turn at 1:18

If I could get this with my 2011 steering wheel, a 2012 dash (not a fan of the myLink display/radio), and without the vinyl hood wrap, I would be trading mine in in a heartbeat
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From the video I see they still haven't fixed the creaky rear seat... Not going lie, I closed my eyes a little at the first "hairpin" turn at 1:18

If I could get this with my 2011 steering wheel, a 2012 dash (not a fan of the myLink display/radio), and without the vinyl hood wrap, I would be trading mine in in a heartbeat
lol...ya i did hear it too...btw i fixed mine by rolling some electric tape around the u latch.

the vinyl hood is a 20min job to remove plus a 2 hours buffing and waxing.
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Old 07-30-2012, 10:26 PM   #97
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All these posts are really unfair comparisons...different track conditions and different drivers.

You can really only compare cars on events during the same day, with the same driver.
Yup.
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I like the times run and hope they can be repeated. I do think we need same driver same day. I think the 1le will be the best muscle car out there. They may be heavy pigs but they are our heavy pigs! I still wish it had the bodywork from the zl1

also I dont think you can compare street car to street car with roll cage and race seat. lets see what they do from the dealer lots!
If you want that body work you gotta pat for it. As a future ZL1 owner I'd be pissed if they made it look just like the ZL1. Get what you pay for always rings true. Plus you get a supercharger out of the deal too....just sayin'
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Old 07-30-2012, 11:00 PM   #100
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Don't the Boss 302 and GT500 have more hp, 440 and 650 respectively to 426 hp?
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