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Old 07-31-2012, 03:09 PM   #126
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The thing about the 1LE is that it's just an option on the SS, it's not really a new model.
It gets compared to the Boss. It's primary competition is the Boss.

At least from everything I have read.
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It gets compared to the Boss. It's primary competition is the Boss.

At least from everything I have read.
Which shouldn't be, its pretty much just a track pack on an SS.

There is another car that should be comparable to the Boss, or so we hope.
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Which shouldn't be, its pretty much just a track pack on an SS.

There is another car that should be comparable to the Boss, or so we hope.


Well until then. It's the 1LE. I guess that's the answer I seek.

I actually don't see it happening. But we'll see.
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Well you actually make my point. I am, and always have been, a Camaro enthusiast. I had never heard of the 1LE tag til THIS car.

I've NEVER been a Mustang guy. I've heard of the Boss and all the rest.

My point is that the names bring attention and memory. The numbers don't.

Shelby, Cobra, Boss.

ZL1, 1LE, Z28.

Only the Z28 is common on the Camaro side.

Ask 100 random people what a Shelby, Cobra, or Boss is and I'll bet you get 85 people who know. Do the same with ZL1, 1LE and leave out the Z28 and I'll bet you MIGHT get 15 that know.

In fact, I've yet to talk to a non-Camaro person who had any recollection of EITHER ZL1 or 1LE. Not a single one. Heck, the ZL1 I had to reach for having ever heard of it.

That's really my only point. If the idea is to sell Camaros to Camaro enthusiasts then, hey, great. It might work. If the idea is to sell Camaros to Camaro enthusiasts AND non-enthusiasts then I think they will sell a few less cars. Give it an appropriate name and it would get more ambient attention from non-enthusiasts.

Topic for another thread though.

I'm sure when the 1LE RPO code existed in the past that the Camaro owners of that time knew what the 1LE was. For example, I didn't get into Camaros until 2002 when I bought my '94. My 94 isn't a 1LE, but I still know they had the 1LE RPO code for 4th gens.
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Now that is awesome, one of the engineers actually driving the car. Like most buyers will.

I wonder if a pro driver could squeeze out a few more 10ths.

Thanks for the video slick rick
Actually no, most buyers cannot drive as well as the development engineer. Aaron Link, nurburgring, ring a bell?

LOL!!! If all buyers drove like that, then they could all be test drivers.

No, a random pro driver could not drive as well as the development engineer (who is a professional driver too). The development engineer knows the car like the back of his hand. They know its faults, they knows its weaknesses. They have spent countless hours test driving.(i.e. Aaron Link drove 40 laps, over 3 days, around the Nurburgring to get 7:41 in the ZL1).

Aaron Link is to GM, what Gene Martindal is to Ford, what Jules Bianchi is to Ferrari, and what Valentino Balboni was to Lamborghini.
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Aaron Link is to GM, what Gene Martindal is to Ford, what Jules Bianchi is to Ferrari, and what Valentino Balboni was to Lamborghini.
Good analogy - but admittedly I got goosebumps a little thinking of Aaron Link being compared to Valentino Balboni.
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I'm sure when the 1LE RPO code existed in the past that the Camaro owners of that time knew what the 1LE was. For example, I didn't get into Camaros until 2002 when I bought my '94. My 94 isn't a 1LE, but I still know they had the 1LE RPO code for 4th gens.
I"m kind of the opposite. I didn't get into Camaros till I bought my 73 Z28 in 1986 when I was 16. I was too young to buy a new one so I stuck with the older ones. I didn't like the 4th Gens at all.

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Actually no, most buyers cannot drive as well as the development engineer. Aaron Link, nurburgring, ring a bell?

LOL!!! If all buyers drove like that, then they could all be test drivers.

No, a random pro driver could not drive as well as the development engineer (who is a professional driver too). The development engineer knows the car like the back of his hand. They know its faults, they knows its weaknesses. They have spent countless hours test driving.(i.e. Aaron Link drove 40 laps, over 3 days, around the Nurburgring to get 7:41 in the ZL1).

Aaron Link is to GM, what Gene Martindal is to Ford, what Jules Bianchi is to Ferrari, and what Valentino Balboni was to Lamborghini.


I've always kinda of felt this way.
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I"m kind of the opposite. I didn't get into Camaros till I bought my 73 Z28 in 1986 when I was 16. I was too young to buy a new one so I stuck with the older ones. I didn't like the 4th Gens at all.

Thank God for Sang Yup Lee.
Part of it too might be attributed to the internet too... Being a Camaro fan in today's time with the ability to not only find tons of information on current models and RPOs but also past history makes us more knowledgeable now. Back then (not to make you sound old) aside from the dealerships the best resource was probably magazines which definitely doesn't give the full exposure that we have with today's connected-ness. Lap times announced and we've already seen 3 different "reviews" for the 1LE So in any case - we'll see what happens from here on out -- will 9th gen Camaro owners know what a 1LE is or not? That's the question
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Part of it too might be attributed to the internet too... Being a Camaro fan in today's time with the ability to not only find tons of information on current models and RPOs but also past history makes us more knowledgeable now. Back then (not to make you sound old) aside from the dealerships the best resource was probably magazines which definitely doesn't give the full exposure that we have with today's connected-ness. Lap times announced and we've already seen 3 different "reviews" for the 1LE So in any case - we'll see what happens from here on out -- will 9th gen Camaro owners know what a 1LE is or not? That's the question
That's a very good point. I honestly hadn't thought about that. If I'd had the internet back then I'd have certainly heard of it all.

Well, it would be almost impossible to bring a Z28 now. They have put so much into making the ZL1 the ultimate track car. And the 1LE has shown it's moxy. To make a Z28 would mean it kind of has to fall somewhere between almost. If the ZL1 would have leaned straight line rather than state of the art road course then the Z28 would have a place.

I think I just derailed this thread.
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Atleast for the 5th gen.
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Good analogy - but admittedly I got goosebumps a little thinking of Aaron Link being compared to Valentino Balboni.
Well in terms of skill and being test drivers the analogy works. In terms of years of service and being an automotive icon, not so much.
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great videos. Were you there? It was awesome. In the Rolex race there was one Mustang and it ran last or second to last with the only Viper as it's only competition for last place.
No, I wasn't there.(lucky you)
But I will be going to the next race!
It's like 8 minutes from home on Circuit Gilles Villeneuve,Montreal.
The #57 Stevenson Camaro GT won last year!
Let's hope they can repeat.
http://www.motorsport.com/grandam/ne...ntreal-gt-win/

This was the Land of the racing GEN3 1LE back in the days... Players Series/GM Motorsport.
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Well you actually make my point. I am, and always have been, a Camaro enthusiast. I had never heard of the 1LE tag til THIS car.

I've NEVER been a Mustang guy. I've heard of the Boss and all the rest.

My point is that the names bring attention and memory. The numbers don't.

Shelby, Cobra, Boss.

ZL1, 1LE, Z28.

Only the Z28 is common on the Camaro side.

Ask 100 random people what a Shelby, Cobra, or Boss is and I'll bet you get 85 people who know. Do the same with ZL1, 1LE and leave out the Z28 and I'll bet you MIGHT get 15 that know.

In fact, I've yet to talk to a non-Camaro person who had any recollection of EITHER ZL1 or 1LE. Not a single one. Heck, the ZL1 I had to reach for having ever heard of it.

That's really my only point. If the idea is to sell Camaros to Camaro enthusiasts then, hey, great. It might work. If the idea is to sell Camaros to Camaro enthusiasts AND non-enthusiasts then I think they will sell a few less cars. Give it an appropriate name and it would get more ambient attention from non-enthusiasts.

Topic for another thread though.


You must be talking to people who have very little interest in cars. You can NOT call yourself a car enthusiast, you definitely can't call yourself a Camaro enthusiast, if you don't know what a ZL1, COPO, Baldwin-Motion or Yenko Camaro is. Most people recognize Z/28, but that is only because Chevy slapped that name on so many cars that didn't truely represent what a Z/28 should have been.
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Flash Back People! lol 20 years ago...

Camaro Enthusiast March 1992. A brief history into how 1LE came to be. As well as listing of magazine articles that featured information on 1LE.
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Once these Grand-Am GS teams gets their hands on the 1LE package it's going to be a carnage on every track!
Actually there won't be much, if any change. The Grand-Am GS teams are required to replace the shocks on all cars with Koni or AST units. Spring rates, sway bars, camber plates, bushings, etc. are all free to be replaced with whatever aftermarket units the teams choose.

If there IS anything in the 1LE package that gives the Camaros an advantage its pretty certain that Grand Am will handicap the car in some other way to compensate.
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Actually there won't be much, if any change. The Grand-Am GS teams are required to replace the shocks on all cars with Koni or AST units. Spring rates, sway bars, camber plates, bushings, etc. are all free to be replaced with whatever aftermarket units the teams choose.

If there IS anything in the 1LE package that gives the Camaros an advantage its pretty certain that Grand Am will handicap the car in some other way to compensate.
Well, The rules state that you can keep these mentionned OEM parts if you want, especially if they're better!
You are required: a Roll cage, security features, fuel cell and continental Tires and some restriction depending on the power to weight/ratio of the car.

What it will eventually do, is bring new teams using the Camaros and probably some existing teams will switch cars for the Camaro 1LE.
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You must be talking to people who have very little interest in cars. You can NOT call yourself a car enthusiast, you definitely can't call yourself a Camaro enthusiast, if you don't know what a ZL1, COPO, Baldwin-Motion or Yenko Camaro is. Most people recognize Z/28, but that is only because Chevy slapped that name on so many cars that didn't truely represent what a Z/28 should have been.
I agree. But those are names. And that's what I"m talking about. COPO, YENKO, Baldwin-Motion....... names. Not numbers.

Side note. A Camaro enthusiast doesn't have to be an encyclopedia of all things Camaro. All I ever knew in high school with my Z28 was that we liked to race them against all comers. I have no doubt I saw a 1LE or two but I don't remember it because I forget numbers.

Now if they told me they had a sidewinder or G-Force or stinger or whatever..... (just making up names off the top of my head) then I'd remember them.

I do not remember the ZL1 but very vaguely and I do not remember the 1LE. But say what you want. I am a Camaro enthusiast and have been since I was 15. I took a hiatus during the 4th gen years because I thought they were ugly and I was in all family mode. It didn't fit my life or budget but I always missed my old Camaro and always felt a tingle when I saw one. When this 5th Gen came out I didn't want a car, didn't need a car, and certainly wasn't looking for a car. But I had to have it. Kids almost grown and could afford my toy.
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Well, The rules state that you can keep these mentionned OEM parts if you want, especially if they're better!
You can't keep the shocks. See http://www.grand-am.com/Portals/0/Im...2GS&ST-GCR.pdf

Believe me they're replacing all of the other suspension bits as allowed by the rules. The 1LE is a streetable car that works well on the track, so compromises in setup have to be made. Camaros that are competitive in GS are not even close to streetable, and the only compromises that are made are to be in compliance with the rules.
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Side note. A Camaro enthusiast doesn't have to be an encyclopedia of all things Camaro.
...but it helps...

Easiest $100 I ever made was when a supposed "expert" in all things Camaro/Corvette argued that "Chevrolet NEVER factory-installed a 427 in a Camaro...they were ONLY done by Yenko/Motion/Nickey/Dana/Harrell. And I'll bet you a $100!!"

Oh, really?! This was back in the '80s...

Cha-CHING!
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http://www.grand-am.com/Portals/0/Im...2GS&ST-GCR.pdf
Camaros that are competitive in GS are not even close to streetable, and the only compromises that are made are to be in compliance with the rules.
First off, you going againts the rule book!
-"This category is designed to encourage race competition of standard volume-produced cars and components, to demonstrate the quality and reliability of various makes and models, and to promote the performance of drivers, manufacturers and other participants."

Second, IF you change your shock setup you are required to use the Koni or AST...and off course every body does it with the SS shocks, I would too.
IF...I had an 1LE in Grand-am GS I would not replace the shocks. Have you look at the Video of the 1LE lapping Virginia, This thing is glued to the ground.
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...but it helps...

Easiest $100 I ever made was when a supposed "expert" in all things Camaro/Corvette argued that "Chevrolet NEVER factory-installed a 427 in a Camaro...they were ONLY done by Yenko/Motion/Nickey/Dana/Harrell. And I'll bet you a $100!!"

Oh, really?! This was back in the '80s...

Cha-CHING!
Fair enough.

I can't answer all that trivia. I just liked that car and what I could do with the car.
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There is only 1 reason the 1LE is not better known by the public. Air onditioning, or lack thereof. If 1le had been on dealers lots with air conditioning they would have sold more.
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Well you actually make my point. I am, and always have been, a Camaro enthusiast. I had never heard of the 1LE tag til THIS car.

I've NEVER been a Mustang guy. I've heard of the Boss and all the rest.

My point is that the names bring attention and memory. The numbers don't.

Shelby, Cobra, Boss.

ZL1, 1LE, Z28.

Only the Z28 is common on the Camaro side.

Ask 100 random people what a Shelby, Cobra, or Boss is and I'll bet you get 85 people who know. Do the same with ZL1, 1LE and leave out the Z28 and I'll bet you MIGHT get 15 that know.

In fact, I've yet to talk to a non-Camaro person who had any recollection of EITHER ZL1 or 1LE. Not a single one. Heck, the ZL1 I had to reach for having ever heard of it.

That's really my only point. If the idea is to sell Camaros to Camaro enthusiasts then, hey, great. It might work. If the idea is to sell Camaros to Camaro enthusiasts AND non-enthusiasts then I think they will sell a few less cars. Give it an appropriate name and it would get more ambient attention from non-enthusiasts.

Topic for another thread though.

I concur. The average Joe has no clue what options or packages are available or even comes with it. I see tons of people on this very board who have no clue what does and does not come on the RS package. Countless times people have not even understood the difference between the white & red SS badges.

The 1LE package is not common knowledge.
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