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Old 08-01-2012, 10:16 AM   #1
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2013 foglights?

Hi all,every photo I see of the 13 RS the fog lights seem to be the same color as the headlights. We all know the RS pkg has Hid headlights ,but do they have Hid fogs also? If not my 1st order of business will be to change them out for Hid bulbs. Can't stand the yellowish look anymore .
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Old 08-01-2012, 10:23 AM   #2
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The RS package does not have fog lights, it has DRLs. And no, they are not HID.
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Old 08-01-2012, 10:35 AM   #3
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The RS package does not have fog lights, it has DRLs. And no, they are not HID.
Huh? I don't see anywhere where the RS package deletes the fog lights.

The LS does not have fog lights, but you can't get the RS package on them anyway.
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Huh? I don't see anywhere where the RS package deletes the fog lights.

If you can find fog lights on a Camaro RS I'd like you to show them to me. My 2013 has DRL's. That's all I've ever seen on the RS package.

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Old 08-01-2012, 10:39 AM   #5
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Huh? I don't see anywhere where the RS package deletes the fog lights.

The LS does not have fog lights, but you can't get the RS package on them anyway.
The lights are there but they are not fog lights, they are active DRL's

So no, the RS does not have Fog lights.
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Old 08-01-2012, 10:39 AM   #6
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I wonder if they double as DRL and fog lamps. Usually DRL are the headlights on a low setting.
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Old 08-01-2012, 10:40 AM   #7
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I wonder if they double as DRL and fog lamps. Usually DRL are the headlights on a low setting.
Yes, you can mod them to act like fog lights, you need a simple harness. But as you have it now, they will NOT be on when your headlights are on.
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Do the HID lamps make enough of a difference that you don't need the fog lamps?
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Huh? I don't see anywhere where the RS package deletes the fog lights.

The LS does not have fog lights, but you can't get the RS package on them anyway.
Thank you, I was thinking the same thing? Lol
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Thank you, I was thinking the same thing? Lol
And you were thinking wrong
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Do the HID lamps make enough of a difference that you don't need the fog lamps?
Depends on what you like, for me the HID's are way more then I need, in fact when I put my DRL's on (I have the harness), I cannot even tell they are on.
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Thank you, I was thinking the same thing? Lol
You have lights, they are the same as fog lights on a non-RS model, but there is a difference in WHEN and HOW they are turned on.

Note: DRLs = Daytime Running Lights; basically the lights that are just always on during the day.

So for a

Non-RS: Headlights are the DRLs, driver can push a button to turn on fogs at any time

RS: Fogs act as DRLs. At night, when the computer turns on the headlights, your fogs will turn off and no longer be able to be turned on no matter what.

As nyrfan said above, a simple harness can change that and allow you turn on your fogs whenever you want if you are in a RS model
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Old 08-01-2012, 10:53 AM   #13
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And you were thinking wrong
Ok i'am confused now? So dlr's are daytime driving lights,why are they located in the area where fog lights go? If I change the bulb to a Hid bulb,then I just have daytime runnin lights with a cool blue glow. I thought the halo's acted as daytime running lights?
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Ok i'am confused now? So dlr's are daytime driving lights,why are they located in the area where fog lights go? If I change the bulb to a Hid bulb,then I just have daytime runnin lights with a cool blue glow. I thought the halo's acted as daytime running lights?
See the post above by ihaveacamaro, it's very detailed.

The RS has DRL's, these are in the place where traditional fog lights would be and cannot be controlled without adding a 3rd party harness.

Halo's are not DRL's.
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Ok i'am confused now? So dlr's are daytime driving lights,why are they located in the area where fog lights go? If I change the bulb to a Hid bulb,then I just have daytime runnin lights with a cool blue glow. I thought the halo's acted as daytime running lights?
If you have an RS, you DON'T have fog lights. They are considered DRLs and not fog lights, because you can't turn them on at will (like when there is fog lol).

Yes, if you change your bulb you would have DRLs with a cool blue.

Nope, halos don't act as DRLs
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Old 08-01-2012, 10:57 AM   #16
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You have lights, they are the same as fog lights on a non-RS model, but there is a difference in WHEN and HOW they are turned on.

Note: DRLs = Daytime Running Lights; basically the lights that are just always on during the day.

So for a

Non-RS: Headlights are the DRLs, driver can push a button to turn on fogs at any time

RS: Fogs act as DRLs. At night, when the computer turns on the headlights, your fogs will turn off and no longer be able to be turned on no matter what.

As nyrfan said above, a simple harness can change that and allow you turn on your fogs whenever you want if you are in a RS model
Definitely gonna need that harness! Lol thanks!
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Old 08-01-2012, 11:06 AM   #17
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DRLs do not need to be the head lights. If I recall, my 99 Trans Am, used the Amber front turn signal lights as their DRLs. I also, believe the Corvette did it that way too (I could be wrong). There are other cars that used the Amber Turn Signal lights as DRLs. So, for Camaros w/ the RS package, which includes the HID lights, Chevrolet uses what was the FOG LAMPS on the NON-RS Camaros as DRL. I also believe they are a different watt bulb in them, but not sure. Like others that stated before, with HID lights, you really don't need the Fog Lamps and they are mostly for show if they are on.
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Old 08-01-2012, 11:27 AM   #18
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DRLs do not need to be the head lights. If I recall, my 99 Trans Am, used the Amber front turn signal lights as their DRLs. I also, believe the Corvette did it that way too (I could be wrong). There are other cars that used the Amber Turn Signal lights as DRLs. So, for Camaros w/ the RS package, which includes the HID lights, Chevrolet uses what was the FOG LAMPS on the NON-RS Camaros as DRL. I also believe they are a different watt bulb in them, but not sure. Like others that stated before, with HID lights, you really don't need the Fog Lamps and they are mostly for show if they are on.
Yep,for me it would be for show. My current car has Hid's but the standard (yellowish) fog lights. So changed them out for Hid bulbs.totally changed the look and that's why I will be getting that harness and changing out them bulbs! Lol
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Kdogg...from what I researched, I believe HID bulbs for the DRLs (or fogs depending on the model) run really hot and is problematic. Many forum members simply went with plasma bulbs as replacements. They look better than the stock bulbs but be careful...some have a strong blue hue, so do your research. I have the RS package and with my HID headlights on, i do not see an improvement with vision, however, i just like them on for looks and they are a vast improvement from the OEM yellow bulbs. Good luck.
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OK, I learned something today.

I need to look a the Camaro information more deeply. I don't remember anywhere where it stated that you lose the fog lamps with the RS package. Not a big deal for me since I haven't had them the last 6 years anyway.

Thanks for all of the clarification.
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Old 08-01-2012, 12:14 PM   #21
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Kdogg...from what I researched, I believe HID bulbs for the DRLs (or fogs depending on the model) run really hot and is problematic. Many forum members simply went with plasma bulbs as replacements. They look better than the stock bulbs but be careful...some have a strong blue hue, so do your research. I have the RS package and with my HID headlights on, i do not see an improvement with vision, however, i just like them on for looks and they are a vast improvement from the OEM yellow bulbs. Good luck.
Agreed, they have some cool Led Hid bulbs that not only look cool,but also run at a cooler temp and yes I will check the kelvin for correct color. Thanks!
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Old 08-01-2012, 12:16 PM   #22
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Also will be lookin into some Led secuencial tail lights/ turn signals.
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OK, I learned something today.

I need to look a the Camaro information more deeply. I don't remember anywhere where it stated that you lose the fog lamps with the RS package. Not a big deal for me since I haven't had them the last 6 years anyway.

Thanks for all of the clarification.
It doesn't really say that anywhere. You just have to learn from the forums
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They sure buried this information.
2012 owners manual section 6-5
For vehicles with High Intensity Discharge (HID) headlamps. the Daytime Running Lights (DRL) replace the fog lamps.
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Exactly what ihaveacamaro said! When I found out from this forum, I went back to the dealership so they can show that the forum members were wrong (i had just ordered my car) but that day I learned something new, along with 4 salesmen, and the service manager!! They had no clue that the DRLs on the RS package did not turn on at night!
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