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Old 09-07-2012, 12:22 AM   #101
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Car was moved to local trim shop that replaced the top to replace the water management bag today. Then back to the dealer to have carpet replaced. GM cust service called to say they were able to talk to the dealership today and has requested ALL the records about this car... and will be in touch. The BBB has also sent be a bunch of legalese that I have to wade through. Today makes 30 days that I have been without the car.

What a nightmare... I stare longingly at Camaros from the Malibu they loaned me. A car that I have kept dry even through a hurricane.
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Old 09-07-2012, 04:44 AM   #102
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I would be very leery of the trim shop doing the water bag replacement if they didn't reinstall the original one properly in the first place. If I were you I would request the trim shop does a wster test with the back seat and back interior panels out before they release the car back to the dealer. The front drain tubes and front upper fold of material, if not placed correctly are commonly the source of the leak. Search my threads for the pics of old water bag vs. new water bag.
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Old 09-07-2012, 04:33 PM   #103
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I would be very leery of the trim shop doing the water bag replacement if they didn't reinstall the original one properly in the first place. If I were you I would request the trim shop does a wster test with the back seat and back interior panels out before they release the car back to the dealer. The front drain tubes and front upper fold of material, if not placed correctly are commonly the source of the leak. Search my threads for the pics of old water bag vs. new water bag.
Read your thread. This new bag was replaced without taking the top off the car. They are stumped as to where the new drain tubes go. So far the dealership hasn't been able to give them instructions.
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Old 09-07-2012, 04:57 PM   #104
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Don't be surprised if they try to offer you a couple of dollars of hush money and then expect you to deal with the car. With the rapid decline in value for the convertible model it is better for their bottom line.
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Old 09-08-2012, 09:01 AM   #105
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Old 09-08-2012, 09:15 AM   #106
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Old 09-08-2012, 09:40 AM   #107
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Learning this stuff is all part of being a Camaro enthusiast I guess. That I have to do it under duress sucks. That link is the best explanation of the water management system I have see to date. Problem is the new bag installs a little different. Still a good read for anyone having water issues inside their cars.
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Old 09-08-2012, 09:56 AM   #108
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Learning this stuff is all part of being a Camaro enthusiast I guess. That I have to do it under duress sucks. That link is the best explanation of the water management system I have see to date. Problem is the new bag installs a little different. Still a good read for anyone having water issues inside their cars.
I haven't had any yet, but I kept that link "Just in case". Thanks again.
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Old 09-08-2012, 11:30 AM   #109
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In that link, Fig 16B I believe shows a picture of the older revision water bag. The new water bag has a larger fold of material (next to the rubber tab "A") that hangs over into the "wet area" of the water management system to help guarantee that water goes to where it is supposed to go. You can see the difference of the two water bags here...http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=235016

tramtwo...I'm going to take pics for you this morning for the new drain location. Sorry it took so long. I'll let you know when I finish and I'll post them on my thread link above. By the way, they have to remove the top to replace the water bag. At least, that is what the GM Engineer did to my car while I personally watched them. I don't see how they can replace the top or the water bag without removing both of them. They must have upset your water bag when they replaced your top. Or they moved something on the water bag while they had their hands and tools down in the body cavity to remove the top.
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Thanks. Water bag installed and dealer has the car again. Day 36 and counting for the repair of this new leaking top. Last contact with dealership I was asked if I knew where the third brake light assembly was. Now they are misplacing pieces.
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Old 09-13-2012, 12:38 AM   #111
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Thanks. Water bag installed and dealer has the car again. Day 36 and counting for the repair of this new leaking top. Last contact with dealership I was asked if I knew where the third brake light assembly was. Now they are misplacing pieces.


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I'd start interviewing attorneys. This is only the beginning, man. It gets worse.
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Old 09-13-2012, 07:14 AM   #113
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The name of the place you have your car at isn't "3 Stooges Chevrolet" is it?

Good luck man.
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Old 09-13-2012, 08:57 AM   #114
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The name of the place you have your car at isn't "3 Stooges Chevrolet" is it?

Good luck man.
I have absolutely no idea how this fell apart... this can not be what GM and the Chevy brand is about. Back when I took this car in on Aug 7 I laughingly told them I had a Cajun Camaro Club meeting on September the 15th I'd like to attend. Guess I will have to park the loaner Malibu down the street.
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The name of the place you have your car at isn't "3 Stooges Chevrolet" is it?

Good luck man.
LOL, they must be a franchise operation nationwide.
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Old 09-13-2012, 01:56 PM   #116
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These guys work on convertibles. Give them a try... L & H Chevrolet
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Old 09-14-2012, 04:23 PM   #118
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Service manager called and said I would have the car, probably tomorrow. 40 days (biblical) after I dropped it off for the leaking new top.

Guess I should take someone with me when I pickup the car. I should be happy but I am not. Have a feeling this is just the beginning.
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Old 09-14-2012, 04:38 PM   #119
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Service manager called and said I would have the car, probably tomorrow. 40 days (biblical) after I dropped it off for the leaking new top.

Guess I should take someone with me when I pickup the car. I should be happy but I am not. Have a feeling this is just the beginning.
Good luck man, keeping my fingers crossed for ya.
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Old 09-16-2012, 05:02 PM   #120
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Hope it works out. I'm getting ready to call my dealer, as a hole is starting to form in my top. I have zero problem pulling the trigger on a lemon-law action if I get the run-around.
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Old 09-16-2012, 05:22 PM   #122
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Received car yesterday after 40 days... missing screws in exterior components. Every interior trim piece has been scratched and there are scratches and gouges on the seats. They also put over fifty miles on the car... must have been a very hard fifty cause they went through a half of tank of gas. The car smells musky and has some discolored area on the head liner which may be mold. I'm glad to have the car back from this dealer... just weary from the experience, which has just begun. All I want is what I paid for... a new Camaro free from major defects.
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Oh and the top developed the classic V marks above the doors from a 30 mile ride yesterday with the top down airing out the car. :-(
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Oh and the top developed the classic V marks above the doors from a 30 mile ride yesterday with the top down airing out the car. :-(
Mine had them off and on for the first couple weeks but now I never see any. Hopefully yours will stop too.
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Old 09-16-2012, 07:10 PM   #125
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Small rain shower just passed through my area the car still leaks! Unbelievable.
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