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Old 08-18-2012, 03:18 PM   #35
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So now the question is: Pedders or pfadt for a 2012 ss or zl1?
If you base your decision on performance there is no decision. You buy Pedders or you are one of the guys that follow Pedders. Pedders 1st to be fast in a 5th Gen, 1st in Customer Service, 1st to market and 1st on Track. Did I say 1st
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Old 08-18-2012, 05:07 PM   #36
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I ordered mine this week through Chase and Paul at Apex Motorsports and I can't wait to get them on my car!!

Thank you for your order. Be sure to let us know what you think once you get them installed.
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Old 08-21-2012, 12:37 AM   #37
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We have designed, engineered, and manufactured a new rear swaybar for the 2012s:





Please let me know if I can help you with this.
Why is your bar only 1 1/8"? Thats about the same size as the factory ZL1 isn't it?
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Old 08-21-2012, 04:58 PM   #38
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Why is your bar only 1 1/8"? Thats about the same size as the factory ZL1 isn't it?
GM did a good job on the ZL1 rear swaybar, but they did leave some room for improvement. Our bar is marginally stiffer and has the adjustability which allows you to increase or reduce stiffness based on preference. Our endlinks are much better than the OEMs as we got rid of all of the rubber bushings that OEM and other competitors use and replaced them with rigid ball joints. So our swaybar will virtually remove all the compliance that the factory swaybar has due to the endlinks.
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Old 08-21-2012, 05:28 PM   #39
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Thanks for the info Brandon!
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Old 08-21-2012, 07:29 PM   #40
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The OE Z style droplink bushes are not made of rubber. They are very hard poly material that has proven to be exceptionally durable in millions and millions of miles on the GMT900 trucks and SUVs.
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Old 08-22-2012, 12:17 PM   #41
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Thanks for the info Brandon!
Not a problem!

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The OE Z style droplink bushes are not made of rubber. They are very hard poly material that has proven to be exceptionally durable in millions and millions of miles on the GMT900 trucks and SUVs.
Pete,

Maybe the factory endlinks are exceptionally durable for your needs. Not for our's.

If they are good enough for you, or Pedders, then that’s great. But testing on trucks and SUVs realistically isn’t “apples to apples” compared to testing on a Camaro that is trying to sqeak out another .5 seconds on an Auto-X course. It is really not even up for debate that an endlink bushed with polyurethane bushings and a composite sleeve is significantly more compliant than an endlink that uses rigid OEM style ball joints and an aluminum turnbuckle. We chose to replace the endlinks because “the difference between ordinary and extraordinary, is that little extra” . We initially designed and tested a swaybar that re-used the OE endlinks. That was the most affordable way to go for us, and for customers. The bar wasn’t bad, but it wasn’t great. We weren’t willing to let such a nice swaybar suffer from inferior endlinks. We then tested the design we just released for sale and were amazed at how much more stable the car felt upon initial turn-in and how much quicker the suspension settled down after a turn. That attribute was all due to the endlinks not squishing and flexing. We feel our product performs great and is a great value.
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Old 08-22-2012, 12:58 PM   #42
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I suggest you read my post again. It is 100% accurate information about an OEM part you mistakenly identified as rubber. As for performance, you know where to find us. The next OPTIMA event is LS Fest, Bowling Green.
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Old 09-01-2012, 06:21 PM   #43
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Will 2012 ZL1 Rear Sways Bars fit on a 2010 SS?
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Old 09-01-2012, 06:34 PM   #44
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Will 2012 ZL1 Rear Sways Bars fit on a 2010 SS?
They do not bolt up. It can be done with some retrofit though.
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Old 09-01-2012, 08:14 PM   #45
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Will 2012 ZL1 Rear Sways Bars fit on a 2010 SS?
We offer a conversion kit that will get you everything you need,
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Old 09-01-2012, 08:17 PM   #46
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They do not bolt up. It can be done with some retrofit though.
As in just the newer rear arms and endlinks? Or those along with creating new holes to bolt to?
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Old 09-01-2012, 08:53 PM   #47
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Old 09-01-2012, 09:18 PM   #48
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As in just the newer rear arms and endlinks? Or those along with creating new holes to bolt to?
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Arms/links.
No cutting or drilling. I meant that you couldn't just order the sway bars and be good to go.
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Old 09-01-2012, 09:40 PM   #49
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Pete,

Maybe the factory endlinks are exceptionally durable for your needs. Not for our's.

If they are good enough for you, or Pedders, then that’s great. But testing on trucks and SUVs realistically isn’t “apples to apples” compared to testing on a Camaro that is trying to sqeak out another .5 seconds on an Auto-X course. It is really not even up for debate that an endlink bushed with polyurethane bushings and a composite sleeve is significantly more compliant than an endlink that uses rigid OEM style ball joints and an aluminum turnbuckle. We chose to replace the endlinks because “the difference between ordinary and extraordinary, is that little extra” . We initially designed and tested a swaybar that re-used the OE endlinks. That was the most affordable way to go for us, and for customers. The bar wasn’t bad, but it wasn’t great. We weren’t willing to let such a nice swaybar suffer from inferior endlinks. We then tested the design we just released for sale and were amazed at how much more stable the car felt upon initial turn-in and how much quicker the suspension settled down after a turn. That attribute was all due to the endlinks not squishing and flexing. We feel our product performs great and is a great value.
This is why I modified my rear endlinks to be stiffer than stock, the stock plastic stalks still flex even in my own hands, my homemade .5" pipe tube setup is way stiffer and responsive but yes like the Pedders guy said those black hard rubber factory pieces are pretty stiff like sun hardened chewing gum along with the half inch pipe they are as stiff and yet rattle free even compared to the previous bars with heim joints and stuff with a tad bit more comfort. The stock plastic stalks gotta go sorry Pfadt. LSR it is good to see you have endlinks that have that setup great job.
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Old 09-01-2012, 09:54 PM   #50
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Pedders Z Barz for lowered vehicles come with Pedders stout shaft droplinks
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Old 09-01-2012, 11:06 PM   #51
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