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Old 08-27-2012, 12:19 AM   #18
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1LE weighs 260 lbs less than a ZL1. So if you could get about 100 hp more out of the LS3 you would have a hell of a car. That is 100 naturally aspirated, not forced induction with 100-120 lbs extra weight on the front end.
All this 1le talk makes me more proud of my SS. Reason is, the SS sounds more capable dont it! I mean some suspension work, a 3.91 gear and a new set of wheels and tires... we all have a 1LE
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Old 08-27-2012, 08:14 AM   #19
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All this 1le talk makes me more proud of my SS. Reason is, the SS sounds more capable dont it! I mean some suspension work, a 3.91 gear and a new set of wheels and tires... we all have a 1LE
The other big piece is the trans.
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Old 08-27-2012, 08:50 AM   #20
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I wonder what the logic in doing that was?
With same-size tires, there's just a little less cornering stiffness on the narrower wheels and just a tiny bit more front slip angle. As an isolated effect, I'd expect just a tiny bit more understeer than if all four were either 10 or 11. Or 10.5, for that matter.

10" is not a particularly wide wheel for 285-wide tires.


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Old 08-27-2012, 12:00 PM   #21
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20 x 10 up front
20 x 11 in back

285 on all fours
That's what I said! LOL OOPS
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Old 08-27-2012, 12:03 PM   #22
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That's what I said! LOL OOPS
You were an inch off.

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Yep 9" fronts and 10" rears. 285 on all fours to help with understeering(in addition to all of the suspension mods GM did)
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Old 08-27-2012, 12:35 PM   #23
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You were an inch off.
Story of my life! LOL
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Old 08-27-2012, 12:59 PM   #24
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Remember the car was designed with a staggered set up therefore the offsets are different front to rear. also the cost of tooling new wheels is unnecessary if the ZL1 wheels are used.*
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Remember the car was designed with a staggered set up therefore the offsets are different front to rear. also the cost of tooling new wheels is unnecessary if the ZL1 wheels are used.*
Does anyone know why? Does a staggered offset have any advantages or is it just for looks?
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You'd never notice a 5mm difference in front vs rear offsets without measuring equipment or strings unless you knew precisely what to look for and exactly the viewpoint required.

It appears that with a 1" difference in front vs rear wheel widths - starting at the SS level - they're holding the front and rear track widths equal at 63.7".

In the LS/LT, they're calling out only one wheel offset and letting the rear track "float" just a little (up to 64.1"). If appearance entered into the decision process for utilizing different wheel offsets at all, it would most likely have been here.


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Old 08-27-2012, 05:49 PM   #27
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Does anyone know why? Does a staggered offset have any advantages or is it just for looks?
In this case mostly looks. However wider rear tires do add traction.
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Old 08-27-2012, 07:04 PM   #28
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hey...did anyone notice the emblem on the trunk of the white 1LE? It did not look like the SS emblem.



I tried to blow it up but it pixilated

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Old 08-27-2012, 07:08 PM   #29
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In this case mostly looks. However wider rear tires do add traction.
I hope not. The staggered setup is a PITA on multiple levels. If the only thing that it gave me was looks I would be furious.
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Old 08-27-2012, 07:26 PM   #30
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hey...did anyone notice the emblem on the trunk of the white 1LE? It did not look like the SS emblem.



I tried to blow it up but it pixilated

It is the SS emblem. See here - photo 4, expanded view. I can't download the high resolution file, or I'd post it here sharpened and cropped.
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yeah...you're correct...shadow played tricks when trying to enlarge photo
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This guy has it correct. You can look at the brochure for confirmation if you need it.
They already have a brochure for 1LE.
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Old 08-29-2012, 07:49 AM   #33
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They already have a brochure for 1LE.
At dealerships? I didn't see one there about 3 weeks ago.
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Does anyone know why? Does a staggered offset have any advantages or is it just for looks?
Helps prevent oversteer during harsh cornering, a car with squared setup is more likely to oversteer more dangerous.
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