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Old 08-27-2012, 06:08 PM   #29
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In this case mostly looks. However wider rear tires do add traction.
I hope not. The staggered setup is a PITA on multiple levels. If the only thing that it gave me was looks I would be furious.
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Old 08-27-2012, 06:26 PM   #30
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hey...did anyone notice the emblem on the trunk of the white 1LE? It did not look like the SS emblem.



I tried to blow it up but it pixilated

It is the SS emblem. See here - photo 4, expanded view. I can't download the high resolution file, or I'd post it here sharpened and cropped.
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Old 08-27-2012, 07:20 PM   #31
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yeah...you're correct...shadow played tricks when trying to enlarge photo
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Old 08-29-2012, 06:43 AM   #32
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This guy has it correct. You can look at the brochure for confirmation if you need it.
They already have a brochure for 1LE.
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Old 08-29-2012, 06:49 AM   #33
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They already have a brochure for 1LE.
At dealerships? I didn't see one there about 3 weeks ago.
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Old 08-29-2012, 06:55 AM   #34
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Does anyone know why? Does a staggered offset have any advantages or is it just for looks?
Helps prevent oversteer during harsh cornering, a car with squared setup is more likely to oversteer more dangerous.
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Old 08-29-2012, 07:02 AM   #35
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At dealerships? I didn't see one there about 3 weeks ago.
I think he means the 2013 Camaro brochure with the 1LE in it.

I picked one up a month ago, just to have it
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Old 08-29-2012, 10:53 AM   #36
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Helps prevent oversteer during harsh cornering, a car with squared setup is more likely to oversteer more dangerous.
True, however you usually see oversteer issues in rear (Porsche) and mid engine (Lamborghini) configurations as it's not much of a problem with front engine vehicles. The Camaro responds best to a well set up square configuration. A staggered set up can be used however there will need to be changes in spring, shock and swaybar configuration.
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Old 08-29-2012, 11:15 AM   #37
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At some power to weight (torque x gearing to weight?) point, having a little tire or wheel stagger is probably good "insurance" for all those drivers who have never autocrossed and had to learn throttle modulation. Ditto if the suspension tuning is otherwise inherently more neutral than average.


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Old 08-29-2012, 12:29 PM   #38
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I think he means the 2013 Camaro brochure with the 1LE in it.

I picked one up a month ago, just to have it
Yep. For those that haven't seen it. Very informative, performance numbers included. http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=237050
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Old 08-29-2012, 01:27 PM   #39
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At some power to weight (torque x gearing to weight?) point, having a little tire or wheel stagger is probably good "insurance" for all those drivers who have never autocrossed and had to learn throttle modulation. Ditto if the suspension tuning is otherwise inherently more neutral than average.


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Cheaper to make a rear sway bar change.
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Old 08-29-2012, 05:49 PM   #40
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"The car does have more understeer than the ZL1, especially in the faster turns, and I wish the brakes were updated and not just painted. They just don't live up to the incredible handling available, but it certainly wasn't a deal breaker. The gearbox ratios are tuned for the racetrack and the throw is short and tight. For the price, its performance is not that far from that of its big brother."
Other reports say with better fluids the brakes are very good and also say understeer is gone. Not sure if I believe no understeer. Further in depth reviews should help clear this up.
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What would the effect be by switching to the ZL1 size 305 on the rear of the 1LE?
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Understeer.
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