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Old 08-07-2012, 12:19 PM   #1
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Pretty disappointed at how far the front tires stick out.

Finally got a decent up close picture of the front wheels/tires on a ZL1. Are the mag ride struts really wide up front? I've seen dozens of 10" wide wheels on the front of SSs and they don't stick out anywhere near this much if any.

Can anyone snap a pic of the tire/strut clearance?

Also a straight edge up against the tire picture would be cool to see how much they actually stick out, to me it looks like the tires are a good 3/4" outside the fender.
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I absolutely LOVE the stance on the ZL1 . . . finally GM designs a wheel that isn't sucked into the wheel well.
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I hate to be the one to break it to you but the Zl1 uses 285/35-20 in front and 305/35-20 in the rear. Thats 11.02" tire width in front and 12.00" tire width in the rear.

Some folks pay a lot of money in the aftermarket get the stance that the ZL1 has stock. I hope you can find a way to appreciate it for what it is, wide tires and all.
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I hate to be the one to break it to you but the Zl1 uses 285/35-20 in front and 305/35-20 in the rear. Thats 11.02" tire width in front and 12.00" tire width in the rear.

Some folks pay a lot of money in the aftermarket get the stance that the ZL1 has stock. I hope you can find a way to appreciate it for what it is, wide tires and all.
Agreed 100% The stance is something not to complain about! Aleast I don't.
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I really don't understand this thread, unless you live life a 1/4 mile at a time. For what it's worth, these cars aren't about a 1/4 mile run.
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Old 08-07-2012, 12:43 PM   #6
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I hate to be the one to break it to you but the Zl1 uses 285/35-20 in front and 305/35-20 in the rear. Thats 11.02" tire width in front and 12.00" tire width in the rear.

Some folks pay a lot of money in the aftermarket get the stance that the ZL1 has stock. I hope you can find a way to appreciate it for what it is, wide tires and all.
I hate to break it to you, but

I said 10" wide wheels up front, not tires. I know what size wheels/tires come of the ZL1.

My car also has 10" wide wheels up front with 285 tires. Except my tires are 11.4" wide, that's almost half an inch wider and they don't stick out like the ZL1.
I love wide stances too, but when you go past the fenders it makes it look goofy. Like someone didn't do their homework on what size wheels/tires fit the car.


Honestly if they wanted to go wider than the fenders, they should have done a small wide body kit like the Vettes, that's doing it right

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I really don't understand this thread, unless you live life a 1/4 mile at a time. For what it's worth, these cars aren't about a 1/4 mile run.
I think you are in the wrong thread, no one said anything about 1/4 mile.

I posted this to see if someone could post a picture of the ZL1 strut to tire clearance. I'm curious as to why they decided to go past the fender with the wheels.

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I think it was done like this on purpose for looks, but there most likely an engineering reason first and foremost. I remember a quote saying something about 'a designers dream' and referencing the tires / wheels in relation to the body. Perhaps they were trying to optimize the track width? IMO as much time and effort as went into this car I doubt it is because someone "didn't do their homework".
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Old 08-07-2012, 01:58 PM   #8
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I hate to break it to you, but

I said 10" wide wheels up front, not tires. I know what size wheels/tires come of the ZL1.

My car also has 10" wide wheels up front with 285 tires. Except my tires are 11.4" wide, that's almost half an inch wider and they don't stick out like the ZL1.
I love wide stances too, but when you go past the fenders it makes it look goofy. Like someone didn't do their homework on what size wheels/tires fit the car.


Honestly if they wanted to go wider than the fenders, they should have done a small wide body kit like the Vettes, that's doing it right


I think you are in the wrong thread, no one said anything about 1/4 mile.

I posted this to see if someone could post a picture of the ZL1 strut to tire clearance. I'm curious as to why they decided to go past the fender with the wheels.
With the parameters you've provided for your argument, I doubt anyone will be able to enlighten you further.

1) 11.2" +.5"=11.4" WTF????
2) Your signature claims 18"x 8.5" and 18x11 Forgestar F14 but you now claim your car has 10" wide wheels in the front with (285mm) or 11.4" tires.
3) Your opinion what is "goofy looking" or the amount of "homework" completed by the ZL1 Engineers may not be alligned enough with either fact or the collective opinion of the general community for anyone to give a crap what you personally think.

While you may proceed to escalate your argument, I will point out that your thread, announcing your distaste for the aesthetics of the offset of the ZL1 wheels in the ZL1 Forum is no more discreet in its "stirring the pot" than walking into Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum and declaring that you cannot understand why the Raiders uniforms aren't more colorful, and that you'd prefer something with a little more pink.

Either way, best of luck with your orientations, whichever way they lean.

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wow.. so much hate and not a single pic.
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I absolutely LOVE the stance on the ZL1 . . . finally GM designs a wheel that isn't sucked into the wheel well.

I totally agree!!!! About damn time GM!
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he's asking what the purpose is, not if anyone agrees with his tastes.

somebody throw up a goddamn pic of the front suspension with wheel and tires for god's sake
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I absolutely LOVE the stance on the ZL1 . . . finally GM designs a wheel that isn't sucked into the wheel well.
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he's asking what the purpose is, not if anyone agrees with his tastes.

somebody throw up a goddamn pic of the front suspension with wheel and tires for god's sake
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With the parameters you've provided for your argument, I doubt anyone will be able to enlighten you further.

1) 11.2" +.5"=11.4" WTF????
2) Your signature claims 18"x 8.5" and 18x11 Forgestar F14 but you now claim your car has 10" wide wheels in the front with (285mm) or 11.4" tires.
3) Your opinion what is "goofy looking" or the amount of "homework" completed by the ZL1 Engineers may not be alligned enough with either fact or the collective opinion of the general community for anyone to give a crap what you personally think.

While you may proceed to escalate your argument, I will point out that your thread, announcing your distaste for the aesthetics of the offset of the ZL1 wheels in the ZL1 Forum is no more discreet in its "stirring the pot" than walking into Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum and declaring that you cannot understand why the Raiders uniforms aren't more colorful, and that you'd prefer something with a little more pink.

Either way, best of luck with your orientations, whichever way they lean.

SUX2BU...I suppose.

Why so defensive? Your claim if 11.02 inches wide front tires ARE ALMOST half an inch skinner than is 11.4 in (11.4 - 11.02 = 0.38). His question is aiming at the size of the struts/magnaride which might have dictated the offsets of the wheels. WIDE stances are NICE as I am running 275 all around right now and thinking of going up to 285 or 295, but tires beyond the fenders remind me of the gang bangers' rides (that's not to say that the ZL1's front tires looked that bad). Personally, I don't think GM engineers screwed up, but with the tires/track they wanted, that's the look you get.
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Assuming there was a legitimate motive for this thread I'll constructively contribute, the best I can.

These may not conform to the OP's exact request but they might offer some measure of visual aid.


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I hate to break it to you, but

I said 10" wide wheels up front, not tires. I know what size wheels/tires come of the ZL1.

My car also has 10" wide wheels up front with 285 tires. Except my tires are 11.4" wide, that's almost half an inch wider and they don't stick out like the ZL1.
I love wide stances too, but when you go past the fenders it makes it look goofy. Like someone didn't do their homework on what size wheels/tires fit the car.


Honestly if they wanted to go wider than the fenders, they should have done a small wide body kit like the Vettes, that's doing it right


I think you are in the wrong thread, no one said anything about 1/4 mile.

I posted this to see if someone could post a picture of the ZL1 strut to tire clearance. I'm curious as to why they decided to go past the fender with the wheels.
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I hate to break it to you, but

I said 10" wide wheels up front, not tires. I know what size wheels/tires come of the ZL1.

My car also has 10" wide wheels up front with 285 tires. Except my tires are 11.4" wide, that's almost half an inch wider and they don't stick out like the ZL1.
I love wide stances too, but when you go past the fenders it makes it look goofy. Like someone didn't do their homework on what size wheels/tires fit the car.


Honestly if they wanted to go wider than the fenders, they should have done a small wide body kit like the Vettes, that's doing it right


I think you are in the wrong thread, no one said anything about 1/4 mile.

I posted this to see if someone could post a picture of the ZL1 strut to tire clearance. I'm curious as to why they decided to go past the fender with the wheels.
If a picture is what you wanted, the title should have stated this instead of the "Disappointed at...". Oh well, the ZL1 stance is awesome and totally makes it stand out among other Camaros. The entire car is fantastic, but the low and wide stance makes it look 100 X's more menacing than the SS.
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With the parameters you've provided for your argument, I doubt anyone will be able to enlighten you further.

1) 11.2" +.5"=11.4" WTF????
2) Your signature claims 18"x 8.5" and 18x11 Forgestar F14 but you now claim your car has 10" wide wheels in the front with (285mm) or 11.4" tires.
3) Your opinion what is "goofy looking" or the amount of "homework" completed by the ZL1 Engineers may not be alligned enough with either fact or the collective opinion of the general community for anyone to give a crap what you personally think.

While you may proceed to escalate your argument, I will point out that your thread, announcing your distaste for the aesthetics of the offset of the ZL1 wheels in the ZL1 Forum is no more discreet in its "stirring the pot" than walking into Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum and declaring that you cannot understand why the Raiders uniforms aren't more colorful, and that you'd prefer something with a little more pink.

Either way, best of luck with your orientations, whichever way they lean.

SUX2BU...I suppose.
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1) The guy quoted 11.02" not 11.2".
2) Could it be possible that maybe I haven't updated my sig?
3) I don't really care about anyone's collective opinion.

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Why so defensive? Your claim if 11.02 inches wide front tires ARE ALMOST half an inch skinner than is 11.4 in (11.4 - 11.02 = 0.38). His question is aiming at the size of the struts/magnaride which might have dictated the offsets of the wheels. WIDE stances are NICE as I am running 275 all around right now and thinking of going up to 285 or 295, but tires beyond the fenders remind me of the gang bangers' rides (that's not to say that the ZL1's front tires looked that bad). Personally, I don't think GM engineers screwed up, but with the tires/track they wanted, that's the look you get.
Thank you for actually reading the thread.
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Assuming there was a legitimate motive for this thread I'll constructively contribute, the best I can.

These may not conform to the OP's exact request but they might offer some measure of visual aid.


Thanks for the attempt, but those don't help at all. I'm asking for a picture like this.

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After seeing a dozen or more ZL1's at the fest this past weekend I can assure you they do not stick out past the Fenders.

I would say about flush to 1/4" in.....that pic above must have the wheels turned or camera angle is off
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Finally got a decent up close picture of the front wheels/tires on a ZL1. Are the mag ride struts really wide up front? I've seen dozens of 10" wide wheels on the front of SSs and they don't stick out anywhere near this much if any.

Can anyone snap a pic of the tire/strut clearance?

Also a straight edge up against the tire picture would be cool to see how much they actually stick out, to me it looks like the tires are a good 3/4" outside the fender.
Just curious, are you looking at it from the top of the fender or from the end of the bumper/wheelwell. If you are looking at it from the top of the fender then they are not 3/4" out. From the bumper flare then yes. Other than that I agree with everyone else here about the stance and wheel offsets. But I know that wasn't your question. Just my $.02
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Here's another perspective.


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After seeing a dozen or more ZL1's at the fest this past weekend I can assure you they do not stick out past the Fenders.

I would say about flush to 1/4" in.....that pic above must have the wheels turned or camera angle is off
The wheels were straight.
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Just curious, are you looking at it from the top of the fender or from the end of the bumper/wheelwell. If you are looking at it from the top of the fender then they are not 3/4" out. From the bumper flare then yes. Other than that I agree with everyone else here about the stance and wheel offsets. But I know that wasn't your question. Just my $.02
I looked at it front the top looking straight down, but it;s hard to judge without a straight edge.

That is why I also asked for a straight edge picture like this. This is Fen's CCW 505a 20x10 front wheels (easily my favorite wheel set up on the entire site), but he is only running 275s. I think if he ran 285s his would be more flush with the fender, but still not stick out.



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Thats a great pic....the ZL1's have quite a bit of Negative camber from the factory.
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From what I could tell at the Fest and from inspecting my friend's ZL1 that I see every week,the Magna ride shocks and springs are no different in external physical size.

What is odd though is the 1LE has 285's on all 4 corners and the rear tires look really stretched.....

There were 4 1LE's GM had at the Fest and could not get an answer why they did that when I asked the engineers.
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