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Old 08-08-2012, 12:42 PM   #1
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Any problems with your Barton Short Throw?

I just ordered a Hurst Monday night and it is supposed to show up today. Since I saw the posts about the Hursts having issues, I am considering not even opening the Hurst, and returning it for a Barton.

Have any of you had any isses with your Barton?

Or should I just order a set of Hurst bushings from NH-SS?
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Old 08-08-2012, 01:31 PM   #2
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I havent had any problems with my aftermarket Hurst after over a year.
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Old 08-08-2012, 01:46 PM   #3
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Most people will not notice the Hurst issue, mine has been fine, bushings are fine. I have a set of the new bushings at home, but have not put them in. I will soon just for the hell of it, but not because it needs it yet.
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Old 08-08-2012, 02:42 PM   #4
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This is one of the first mods I did to my SS in early 2010. zero issues with the Barton, and have no complaints. I'm really happy with my Barton shifter.
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Old 08-08-2012, 06:53 PM   #5
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Thanks for the input fellas. Makes it a hard decision to send the Hurst back for a Barton, or keep the Hurst for now and just get a set of bushings if I need them! I'm going to wait to see if anyone else posts here till tomorrow morning and then decide!
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Old 08-09-2012, 10:16 AM   #6
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Going to go with the Hurst for now, thanks for everyone's input!
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Old 08-11-2012, 09:16 AM   #7
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Love the Barton shifter in mine! I went that route instead of the Hurst for saving some $ (not paying for the Hurst name) and a product that has no negative comments. I wasn't about to pay more money for something that wasn't going to be up to my expectations. The car rattles enough; I don't need noise from the shifter too.
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Old 08-11-2012, 04:25 PM   #8
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I picked up a Barton flat stick billet shifter at Camaro5fest III, and just installed it today. I love the way it feels and shifts, and the throws are a HUGE difference over the stock shifter. A quality product, and highly recommended.


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Old 08-16-2012, 11:23 PM   #9
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Barton much better quality then the hurst thats why you see so meany posts about hurst problems.
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Old 08-17-2012, 10:32 AM   #10
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Old 08-17-2012, 10:35 AM   #11
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Old 08-17-2012, 08:40 PM   #12
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I'm not sure what to think of my Barton STS... I just installed it last night and I love the feel.... But it rattles... All the time.... My MTI shifter did not rattle at all! I'm really thinking about removing it and returning it... I can't stand the rattles..

I'm gonna try to put a peice of dynamat on the connecting joint. Hopefully that will fix it cause I like the feel of it.... Just rattles.... :(
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Old 08-19-2012, 07:08 AM   #13
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I have had mine well over a year and it's great. If yours is rattling I'm thinking you need to check some thing. I've never here of a Barton making rattle noises.
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Old 08-19-2012, 07:12 PM   #14
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I have had mine well over a year and it's great. If yours is rattling I'm thinking you need to check some thing. I've never here of a Barton making rattle noises.
Well the install is pretty simple. I don't see how I could not install it right. One thing I noticed is my mti shifter had ball bearing and metal/ aluminum bushings vs the plastic ones in my Barton. The MTI bushings won't fit in my Barton shifter and the ball bearings won't fit either.

Think I'm gonna go to lowes tomorrow and see if I can't find anything that might tighten things up. As for now... I'm not to happy with it. The mti shifter seems to have better quality material. Just sucks though cause the Barton shifter feels better, but I can't take the rattles.
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Old 08-20-2012, 12:19 AM   #15
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Old 08-20-2012, 04:41 PM   #16
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Kevin1106- Some cars make more noise than others, this is out of our control. The looser the tolerances are on GM's side the more drivetrain noise will transmit through the shifter. This is why some have noise and some dont, with ANY shifter.
If you had no noise with the MTI shifter its because you were using the factory knob or a different style knob than the shift ball that comes with our flat stick. If you use our OEM type stick so you can use the factory knob. You will have no noise at all.
With the flat stick and ball, you have no rubber isolation between the handle and the knob. If you apply some teflon tape to the upper threads and put the ball back on, it should quiet it down. If for some reason you still have noise, make sure the rubber boot inside the car is pulled back up on to the handle and not sitting below it. The boot on the bottom of the car may also not be properly seated all the way. Also, did you make sure the "D" on the bottom of the shifter was to the drivers side?
If everything is correct, than shoot me an email with your address and I will send you an OEM type stick so you can use the factory knob, to eliminate the noise. Free of charge.
As far as material quality, we use 304 stainless steel and 6061 T6 billet aluminum. Yes, our bushings are not roller bearings like the MTI, but there are no need for bearings on a linkage. The shifter linkage is applied through linear force not a rotational direction. You might get 1/10 of a rotation in the pivot pin but bearings are designed for rotating not applying pressure. Same reason you use bushings on control arms and not roller bearings.
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Old 08-23-2012, 08:26 PM   #17
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Old 08-31-2012, 01:41 PM   #18
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Check out our Tri-Ax shifter:

  1. 20%-33% reduced throw
  2. Durable delrin linkage insert
  3. Long lasting billet steel and aluminum construction
  4. Will not corrode, nickel plated
  5. Made in America
  6. Lifetime warranty - We make it, we guarantee it!

Let me know if I can help you with that.
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Old 08-31-2012, 10:00 PM   #19
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Sent a pm to Barton's. 8 days later, no reply's and no shifter. Pulling it out tomorrow and sending it back. Going with MGW.....Before my 30 days is up.
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Old 08-31-2012, 10:03 PM   #20
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Check out our Tri-Ax shifter:

  1. 20%-33% reduced throw
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  3. Long lasting billet steel and aluminum construction
  4. Will not corrode, nickel plated
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Let me know if I can help you with that.
Pm me a price please....
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Old 09-04-2012, 11:26 AM   #21
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Pm me a price please....
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Old 09-04-2012, 12:10 PM   #22
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Old 09-08-2012, 10:56 PM   #23
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Kevin1106- Some cars make more noise than others, this is out of our control. The looser the tolerances are on GM's side the more drivetrain noise will transmit through the shifter. This is why some have noise and some dont, with ANY shifter.
If you had no noise with the MTI shifter its because you were using the factory knob or a different style knob than the shift ball that comes with our flat stick. If you use our OEM type stick so you can use the factory knob. You will have no noise at all.
With the flat stick and ball, you have no rubber isolation between the handle and the knob. If you apply some teflon tape to the upper threads and put the ball back on, it should quiet it down. If for some reason you still have noise, make sure the rubber boot inside the car is pulled back up on to the handle and not sitting below it. The boot on the bottom of the car may also not be properly seated all the way. Also, did you make sure the "D" on the bottom of the shifter was to the drivers side?
If everything is correct, than shoot me an email with your address and I will send you an OEM type stick so you can use the factory knob, to eliminate the noise. Free of charge.
As far as material quality, we use 304 stainless steel and 6061 T6 billet aluminum. Yes, our bushings are not roller bearings like the MTI, but there are no need for bearings on a linkage. The shifter linkage is applied through linear force not a rotational direction. You might get 1/10 of a rotation in the pivot pin but bearings are designed for rotating not applying pressure. Same reason you use bushings on control arms and not roller bearings.
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Just figured I'd give an update.... As of today, still no reply from my pm and of course no shifter....guess I won't be getting my free shifter after all. Almost 3weeks
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Old 09-09-2012, 06:38 AM   #24
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Just figured I'd give an update.... As of today, still no reply from my pm and of course no shifter....guess I won't be getting my free shifter after all. Almost 3weeks
dude he said to email him go to the site and find the email you gotta get that free shifter lol
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Old 09-09-2012, 06:54 AM   #25
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I dont why people pm. Call them. If you cant speak with a live person then why do business with them imo.

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