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Old 03-21-2011, 02:43 PM   #1976
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The car looks GOOD!
After you bounce or drive it, you want to tighten all the nuts/bolts without upsetting their new position. You don't want to jack it up. It would be best to do it at the alignment shop, or someplace with a pit.
Damn. I"d actually have to coordinate it with a shop here. That sucks.......

But, Chris, how far is Sears? Maybe ease it to them like that?
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Old 03-21-2011, 02:53 PM   #1977
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Need to re-tighten when there is a load on the wheels. No jacks!

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Old 03-21-2011, 03:03 PM   #1978
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you want the car to be "at rest" with the weight on the suspension.
Goal is to get everything to settle into it's new home while in it's static location.

If you jack it up and tighten stuff, it's not in the right position.

Best place to do it is on an alignment machine, prior to the alignment. Some of the same bolts need to be loosened up to do the alignment anyways.
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Old 03-21-2011, 03:05 PM   #1979
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you want the car to be "at rest" with the weight on the suspension.
Goal is to get everything to settle into it's new home while in it's static location.

If you jack it up and tighten stuff, it's not in the right position.

Best place to do it is on an alignment machine, prior to the alignment. Some of the same bolts need to be loosened up to do the alignment.
I can say for certain, here in Mobile anyway, it would not be easy to get the shops to do it. I hate this place.

Chris may have more luck on his end. Sounded like Sears was willing to work with him.
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Old 03-21-2011, 03:26 PM   #1980
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It is a shame that most shops do not do this. No one is asking to have it done for free. In a business shop it is really easy. Put it on a lift. Loosen the bolts. Drive around the shop lot and on to the alignment rack. Tighten the bolts and proceed with the alignment. It can't take an hour.

At home you can do it with boards. It is a little bit trickier to get to the bolts, but it is doable and it works.

(2) 2x12x48
(2) 2x12x36
(4) 2x12x12

You will be able to drive up in steps and the wheels will be evenly loaded. In the shop and at home we have these boards cover in truck bedliner. You can keep them clean and they don't slip. You can use 8 or 10" boards to cut costs, but you get the idea.

Timing the bushes is the difference between doing a half axxed job and doing it right.
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Old 03-21-2011, 03:32 PM   #1982
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Looks really good Chris..............
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Old 03-21-2011, 03:34 PM   #1983
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you want the car to be "at rest" with the weight on the suspension.
Goal is to get everything to settle into it's new home while in it's static location.

If you jack it up and tighten stuff, it's not in the right position.

Best place to do it is on an alignment machine, prior to the alignment. Some of the same bolts need to be loosened up to do the alignment anyways.
COOL!

OH and thanks very much for giving me a call about preloading the rear springs.



ah hem... Pete was ignoring my calls at that very critical time...
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Old 03-21-2011, 03:40 PM   #1984
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I can say for certain, here in Mobile anyway, it would not be easy to get the shops to do it. I hate this place.

Chris may have more luck on his end. Sounded like Sears was willing to work with him.
My alignment shop did not know what I was talking about. I gave them Pete's instructions and after they read it they agreed it made sense.

You can tell the difference afterwards, it removes that "spring board" feel!!



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Old 03-21-2011, 04:05 PM   #1985
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Your car looks great dropped. I love that stance.
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Old 03-21-2011, 04:20 PM   #1986
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Your car looks great dropped. I love that stance.
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Old 03-21-2011, 04:24 PM   #1987
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Chris, looks great I'm sure
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Car looks GREAT... but I thought you were going to lower it...
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Chris would you post your ride hieghts measured Pedders style?

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Old 03-21-2011, 05:02 PM   #1990
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It is a shame that most shops do not do this. No one is asking to have it done for free. In a business shop it is really easy. Put it on a lift. Loosen the bolts. Drive around the shop lot and on to the alignment rack. Tighten the bolts and proceed with the alignment. It can't take an hour.

At home you can do it with boards. It is a little bit trickier to get to the bolts, but it is doable and it works.

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You will be able to drive up in steps and the wheels will be evenly loaded. In the shop and at home we have these boards cover in truck bedliner. You can keep them clean and they don't slip. You can use 8 or 10" boards to cut costs, but you get the idea.

Timing the bushes is the difference between doing a half axxed job and doing it right.
All of the shops that I've dealt with here don't want a customers input on anything.

And I suppose it must be a pain when a know it all customer tries to tell you how to do your stuff, but it sucks when they just 'tune you out' as a potential pain in theri ass, when there are times when we might know something.

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My alignment shop did not know what I was talking about. I gave them Pete's instructions and after they read it they agreed it made sense.

You can tell the difference afterwards, it removes that "spring board" feel!!



I"m gonna do it on mine, but I'll just use my wood ramps here at home to tighten them before I go to the alignment shop. IF I find a shop that can do an alignment. They've all run from it in the past.

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Chris would you post your ride hieghts measured Pedders style?

Will do, first thing tomorrow before I head to work

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Chris would you post your ride hieghts measured Pedders style?

OK

Fronts 64.8 CM

Rears 66.5 CM

And they are exactly the same on both sides.. I did not adjust the ride height at all.. They are set as they came from the factory.

Not that it affects ride height, but, we put the preload on the rears at 5mm and about 3 mm up front. I shot some video of how to set the preload on the rears, same process as the fronts.


Alignment,

Jerry Hamm here in Jax has a real good Corvette/Camaro Tech named Mike.

After I asked him to time the bushings he said no problem. In fact he said... I'm glad you asked me to do that it makes perfect sense....

I didn't ask him for any custom alignment, especially since I'm about to drive 4K miles here in a couple weeks... But they're gonna take care of me.

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cool.. nice to see SOMEONE has a decent alignment shop (Besides me) to go to..

Rob at Wretched Motorsports keeps me Inline..

Looks like PQ needs to move near you so he can get air to stay in his tires, and keep parts from falling off..
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After I asked him to time the bushings he said no problem. In fact he said... I'm glad you asked me to do that it makes perfect sense....
Blah Blah Blah,,,,,,, "Look at me..... I live in Jacksonville where I have access to all the cool stuff............ and good shops......... and parts".......... blah blah blah.......... Name:  47.gif
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I need lug nuts...... gotta order them.
I need a fuel schreader valve....... gotta order it.
I need a dyno tune......... gotta drive 7 hours to get it.
I need a decent alignment.......

But NOOoooooOOOOoooo........... not Mister fortunate here......

Chris: "Oh..... looky there, a speed shop with all the resources opens up across the street. How luck am I?"

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OH... and my car is straight as an arrow now



Just sayin....


so Pete... you know, since the supercars are SOOOOooooOOOOOOOOooooo adjustable...

Say if I were to have a grudge match with a "friend" and say we were going to do both Autox aaaannd Drag racing... what would be the recommended settings on both rebound and compression for all four of my adjustable coilovers for both autox and drag racing?????


hmmmm?????

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