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Old 01-03-2008, 06:25 AM   #1
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Angry The muscle car killer

I was watching on the news today 1/3/2008 CNBC. There's suppose to be a huge spike in gas prices due to high demand for crude oil as the year 2008 progresses. For people who have knowledge in the past high gas prices is what killed the muscle car era. Gas prices are suppose to go up to a whomping $4.00/per gallon. What do you guys think? do you think this will kill Dodge's challenger and fords mustang? Chevy already said they will have the cylinder shut down technology giving the Camaro a projected 30mpg/highway and 22mpg/city. But the challenger and the mustang only can get 23mpg/highway at max as of so far. You guys and so maybe girls thoughts?
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Old 01-03-2008, 09:23 AM   #2
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I think we'll be fine. There's a lot of crap I could spout about why - but it wasn't gas prices alone that killed the Musclecars back then.

To quote another author on this point sums up my view on the topic:

"Summary, Muscle cars in the traditional sense was dead BEFORE emissions and fuel economy killed them. The public moved away from them, insurance made them too expensive, baby boomers matrured to personal luxury cars as they grew older, meanwhile, banning lead in gasoline directly killed high compression engines.... till modern electronics and on board computers made up for it years later."

Historical sales numbers, (i.e. 200,000+ Camaros sold per year during certain years in the 70's) just don't support a "Camaro's going to die!!!" theory...
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Old 01-03-2008, 11:13 AM   #3
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$4/gal is about what we pay now. I see plenty of mustangs, chargers, camaros, and corvettes driving around. Its ok, you will survive.

And in back in the day it was gas prices+emissions+insurance that killed the muscle car
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Old 01-03-2008, 01:26 PM   #4
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well i know one thing once the G8 comes out im getting that and trading in this sububan in lol.
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Old 01-03-2008, 05:40 PM   #5
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Old 01-04-2008, 02:08 AM   #6
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$4 a gallon?!? COME ON!!! This is getting rediculous!!!
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Old 01-04-2008, 02:38 AM   #7
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Old 01-04-2008, 02:55 AM   #8
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it's 3.89 in the bay area. Unleaded base. Not premium.
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Old 01-04-2008, 11:33 AM   #9
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dang i guess we real lucky hear in detroit its 3.18 a gallon
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Old 01-04-2008, 11:38 AM   #10
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Old 01-04-2008, 11:50 AM   #11
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Hey, maybe someone else has asked but will the new Camaro take regular (87)? My RX8 can use it but it asks for 91 (which is hard to find) so I'm filling her up with 93 all the time. I hope...87 is in the picture for the Camaro.

Anyway, GM's V8's are great with fuel economy considering their size/power/etc but I bet we will see less gas V8's, more diesel V8's, hybrids, etc.

Remember also, recently they have figured out how to get ALOT more power out of lithium batteries (10-20X the power storage for laptops as an example) so every other technology out there (because of high gas) will grow further which isn't a bad thing environmentally speaking. Nano technology is the wave of the future MAN...LOL.

Even gas V8's will live on while we probably will see less of them.
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Old 01-08-2008, 07:37 PM   #12
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you shouldnt worry, with everyone converting vegetables into fuels i think it'll even out the prices of gas, atleast i hope, and with gm's fuel flex technology which i hope it gets it shouldnt be too hard to fill her up, though here in chicago/indiana prices are getting pretty steep...but i'm not complaining i drive a v6
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$3.05 ish for 89 Octane here in San Antonio :\
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being honest i just hope its not like a suburban,we had one for a while like for trips or going out with the family and nice as it was, it consumed quite alot of gas, i have thought about getting a v6 camaro..but naa v8 all the way!
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Oh....ok.

I saw the title of this thread and thought it was about my car.


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Old 01-09-2008, 10:31 PM   #16
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Oh....ok.

I saw the title of this thread and thought it was about my car.


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At least you have a sense of humour. Your car being a muscle car killer

seriously though, you have a respectable car there unlike others who think they have 'rice rockets'
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Old 02-11-2008, 11:14 PM   #17
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I bought my 89 iroc a couple years back now. Wanted 1 ever since i was a little kid. As did we all i suppose. I wont sell it. Dont care if gas goes way higher than $4.00. I can store it too.
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that's why we need flex fuel!!!
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$3.05 ish for 89 Octane here in San Antonio :\
dont run 89 in an LT1. its made for the good stuff. ur hurting your gas mileage and the motor by running crappy fuel.

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3.47 in Buffalo....

I do want to bring up something...Diesel is a full dollar more expensive than reg. gas around here...
Deisels are said to have ~30% better efficiency than normal engines, but explain the benifits when the fuel costs 30% more?
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Old 04-12-2008, 02:44 AM   #22
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3.69 in Tacoma...yeah Diesel prices are crazy...its more than 4 bucks. what we need to do is get that flex fuel going and tap whats in alaska. from what Ive heard they dont tap it because of the "tree huggers" (no offense to anyone, dont know the PC term) and for some reason it would be relatively expensive to refine it. But Id much rather pay 3+ dollars for oil that we can control production of. Oil companies, gas station owners are making a killing off of all of us. Im really tired of hearing excuses about why prices are raising. The real reason is they know if they refine just enough they can basically sell it at what ever price they want. Is It me of does the price per barrel set a new record everyday!
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$3.50 for super here. Diesel is over $4.00 per gallon.
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Old 04-12-2008, 02:19 PM   #24
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What we need to do is get that flex fuel going and tap whats in alaska. But Id much rather pay 3+ dollars for oil that we can control production of.


For what it's worth, I only run on E10. (Because that's the most concentrated ethanol we've got here.) Sunoco puts 10% Ethanol in all their fuels, and around here, they're consistantly 5-10 cents cheaper than everybody else around them (who don't happen to put Ethanol in their fuel).

So I might lose a few miles on a tank. I don't care. I can be sure that 10% of my money isn't going overseas. So there.
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Same here...we dont have Sunco, but we do have Arco thats where I gas up. its E10 and 92 is the price of the big chains regular. We need more stations like that Im not giving my hard earned money to the big companies who, from what I can see, are not doing anything to help out. On the news here those other companies are like "we cant control the prices of the gas".
BS! the why does the price at any "big" company change from station to station! all of the chevron's, shell's BP's are 10-30 cents than the ones a few blocks farther. The truth is they dont care about us, america, europe, or anyone else for that matter. simply because they know we dont have a choice but to buy gas! Take a look at they're stocks...they can afford to help out!
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