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Old 01-05-2008, 12:29 AM   #126
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I never realized how freaking hard it is to color something that's white....
but it's coming along...this is a first shot at it.
It doesn't help that GM put a real flat white on there...for obvious reasons of course...but geesh - Photoshop hates it.
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Old 01-05-2008, 12:33 AM   #127
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All -- we're exceedingly happy with your responses to the picture of the white car.......just great to see the excitement and passion you have for the new Camaro. (and we live for this!)

For those of you in Michigan and Arizona -- and hey -- other states as well -- keep your eyes open -- cammo is officially off......and as Ed Peper says -- we hope you'll take pictures (hopefully good ones....) and post 'em!


Oh -- and Bowtie Guy -- careful of those 'Camarogasms' when you're driving!

(shared your comment with the group -- everyone cracked up for quite some time!)
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too late and buzzed to say anything clever right now but i'm liking it!
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Old 01-05-2008, 01:17 AM   #129
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I never realized how freaking hard it is to color something that's white....
but it's coming along...this is a first shot at it.
It doesn't help that GM put a real flat white on there...for obvious reasons of course...but geesh - Photoshop hates it.
Thats the colour I painted my Concept Camaro, well am in the process of painting. I ran out of the blue metallic.
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Old 01-05-2008, 02:07 AM   #130
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All -- we're exceedingly happy with your responses to the picture of the white car.......just great to see the excitement and passion you have for the new Camaro. (and we live for this!)

For those of you in Michigan and Arizona -- and hey -- other states as well -- keep your eyes open -- cammo is officially off......and as Ed Peper says -- we hope you'll take pictures (hopefully good ones....) and post 'em!


Oh -- and Bowtie Guy -- careful of those 'Camarogasms' when you're driving!

(shared your comment with the group -- everyone cracked up for quite some time!)
Darn it Scott, I'm out of virgins to send. I do live in LA after all...they're hard to come by out here.

So with that new higher res picture, we can confirm that at least the prototype has a glass panel in the roof of some sort, cowl induction, and some sort of vents in front of the rear wheels. Me likey so far.

I was shocked to see the sunroof at first, but then I realized that they pretty much have to design two sets of roofs and headliners for any car with a sunroof option, so I guess it wasn't too much harder to design both a reverse 'hawk and a flat roof with a glass panel. I agree, that sure makes for a difficult decision for a lot of people, but I know that I will definitely order a sunroof if it is offered. And one should be, since the Challenger offers one and a glass-roofed Mustang variant is planned.

For gas caps, I have honestly never noticed any extra effort having to go around to the passenger side to fill up. I'm one of those very rare un-Americans who thinks nothing of walking a couple extra feet. I take the stairs to my cube every day, as I work on the second floor (first floor for our friends across the pond), yet all of my coworkers take the elevator. As far as sitting in the car and pumping a few extra gallons in after it shuts off, both are no-nos. Sitting in the car supposedly increases static electricity build-up, and while I'm sure the threat is exaggerated, you're still technically not supposed to do that. Topping off is a real thing to never do though. The cut-off point is set for a reason, and pumping in more after it shuts itself off just floods the charcoal canister and will likely lead to costly repairs down the line. Really, you should never do that. Getting an extra 2 tenths of a gallon in the tank is just not worth it. And with people causing problems when you pull in head-to-head....WOW. I live in LA, land of the incompetent and self-centered driver, and I have never had anyone cause a problem like that. That is just unbelievable that would happen.

You want a difficult gas filler? My 1970 Olds has the filler behind the rear license plate (it folds down to expose the cap), and it won't hold the nozzle in place by itself, so I have to kneel behind the car physically holding the nozzle in while it fills up. It has a 20 gallon tank too. Now that is an annoying fuel filler.
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Old 01-05-2008, 10:20 AM   #131
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Albeit...it's kind of small - but maybe a bigger picture will come soon.



And the Hi-res, first posted here by Diarmadhi:


COOL it has a SUNROOF and a Shark antenna!!!! I want to see shots of the front without camo!!!! It looks almost better than the concept version on the outside, look at the matching door handles! The plastic bottom and exhaust tips are neat too! I LOVE it!!!!
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Old 01-05-2008, 12:14 PM   #132
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Why are y'all still saying whoot! it still has the vents!! Are my eyes bad? because all I see are three indentations, not a single cut through the metal. Yes, yes, I still love it, but those are NOT vents! Don't get me wrong, It's awesome, and I appreciate Scott's comments about how not everything is production yet, so I still have hope about my vents, at least on the V8, or "A" V8 since there probably will be more than one. I also appreciate Scott's comments I first saw on Josh's TheGMsource.com about it being 65% done. I'm hopeing for better gauges, deeper, more detail. But hey, it's a camaro, and I love the shape! I wanna go Stang huntin!
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Old 01-05-2008, 12:39 PM   #133
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The larger picture shows more detail, looks nice. Anyone got some pictures showing the actual car from the front, to see grille and the back? Am I wrong or is this car delayed a year until end of 2009?
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Old 01-05-2008, 12:59 PM   #134
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camaro10, like you, I pray that they "cut open" those air vents. If there's one thing that I think is so cheasy, it's having air inlets, vents, etc that DON'T WORK. I think it's a waste even putting them on. One of my biggest complaints about the Mustang...air vents. My wifes 00 had them. The air vents in the sides were for show and the one in the hood didn't work either. CHEASY. I sure hope they cut'em open!!!

camarosc35, ^the Camaro has NOT been delayed until the end of 09.
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Old 01-05-2008, 01:11 PM   #135
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I doubt they'll cut them open, and even if they do they'll be non-working... It's not like the slots will be cooling it's "mid-engine" or anything. I think it's cheesy too, designers shouldn't put non-functioning vents on cars-- leave that to Mattel. It worked nicely on the mustang because that's a cheesy car
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Old 01-05-2008, 01:24 PM   #136
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The larger picture shows more detail, looks nice. Anyone got some pictures showing the actual car from the front, to see grille and the back? Am I wrong or is this car delayed a year until end of 2009?
No lol, where did you hear that from. Its not true. Lollll
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Old 01-05-2008, 02:04 PM   #137
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I doubt they'll cut them open, and even if they do they'll be non-working... It's not like the slots will be cooling it's "mid-engine" or anything.
Actually, I believe the original intent of the vents was to cool the rear brakes just as there are vents in the front to cool the front brakes. But I'm with you TAG, non-functional IS cheesy, I really hope they are functional at least on the high HP versions.
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Old 01-05-2008, 02:10 PM   #138
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I doubt they'll cut them open, and even if they do they'll be non-working... It's not like the slots will be cooling it's "mid-engine" or anything. I think it's cheesy too, designers shouldn't put non-functioning vents on cars-- leave that to Mattel. It worked nicely on the mustang because that's a cheesy car
I thought they were for cooling the brakes (if they were functional)

But if you want to remove all non-functioning styling elements from the Camaro, you'd be left wil a fairly boring car (visually)
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Old 01-05-2008, 02:30 PM   #139
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ok this is just something i was wondering, and i dnt know if its been mentioned or not, but are those little slits in the rear bumper back-up lights. im not sure, it just knid of bugged me, but other than that this thing rules!!!
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Old 01-05-2008, 02:39 PM   #140
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Darn it Scott, I'm out of virgins to send. I do live in LA after all...they're hard to come by out here.


HEEHEEEHEEEEE!!!!!

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Hey Scott...those "vents" in front of the rear wheels going to be open? Pleeeeeez!!!:(

Blink once for yes and twice for no?




Better yet...can you please just blink once?!
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Old 01-05-2008, 04:19 PM   #142
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Hmm... They "look" operational here... 'course there could still be black paint in there.

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Old 01-05-2008, 09:09 PM   #143
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Very true. Honestly, I've rarely EVER seen a newborn that was cute...


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I just consider it more inconvenient for the gas cap to be on the passenger side... If you think about it, you aren't going to jump out of the passenger side to start pumping your gas! Why do ANY cars have a passenger side gas cap???


My vote goes for driver's side, on top of the finder. Woot woot! :party0048:
While I do like the gas cap on the driver's side, it's not as much an issue when you don't have to pump your own gas. (And still have the lowest gas prices in the nation...) I haven't pumped gas since I was 15 (I'm 33 now) and had a job at a gas station... And I have no desire to ever do it again.





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Dual Exhaust was an option. My '02 V6 had it. It also had a few other things included that I honestly forget. Only one I remember was tighter steering (which I loved, but others always commented on how much effort it took to turn the wheel). I hope either the new Camaro has nice tight steering, or at least has the option.
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Old 01-06-2008, 12:42 AM   #144
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Why do ANY cars have a passenger side gas cap???
Just to answer your question, most European cars have the gas cap on the passenger side for two reasons. (most Japanese cars also have the gas cap on the passenger side in their domestic configuration)

1) If you run out of gas and stop on the side of the road, you can refill the tank safety on the curbside.

2) While pulling up to the pump, you won't have to worry about opening the door too far and hitting the island.

I personally don't care for those reasons too much, but I've noticed that most cars w/ the gas cap on the right side are higher-end cars (e.g. Audi, BMW, Infiniti, Jaguar, Mercedes, Porsche). Naturally there are fewer of them on the road, so it's usually easier to find an available pump on the right side (assuming that all cars enter the station in the same direction).
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My 07 HHR has the gas cap on the passenger side. it was confusing at first but i got used to it.
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Just to answer your question, most European cars have the gas cap on the passenger side for two reasons. (most Japanese cars also have the gas cap on the passenger side in their domestic configuration)

1) If you run out of gas and stop on the side of the road, you can refill the tank safety on the curbside.

2) While pulling up to the pump, you won't have to worry about opening the door too far and hitting the island.

I personally don't care for those reasons too much, but I've noticed that most cars w/ the gas cap on the right side are higher-end cars (e.g. Audi, BMW, Infiniti, Jaguar, Mercedes, Porsche). Naturally there are fewer of them on the road, so it's usually easier to find an available pump on the right side (assuming that all cars enter the station in the same direction).
Never thought of those reasons before, but those are really good. Personally, doesn't matter either way to me. Both have their pros and cons I suppose.

Oh, and as far as being confused about what side it is on, I am very thankful GM has taken the simple step of including an arrow on the gas gauge to help you out. Coming back from England and driving my car for the first time in months, I actually forgot for a moment and the arrow helped. Thanks GM for doing something everyone should do just out of common sense.
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Old 01-06-2008, 04:18 AM   #147
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Just to answer your question, most European cars have the gas cap on the passenger side for two reasons. (most Japanese cars also have the gas cap on the passenger side in their domestic configuration)

1) If you run out of gas and stop on the side of the road, you can refill the tank safety on the curbside.

2) While pulling up to the pump, you won't have to worry about opening the door too far and hitting the island.

I personally don't care for those reasons too much, but I've noticed that most cars w/ the gas cap on the right side are higher-end cars (e.g. Audi, BMW, Infiniti, Jaguar, Mercedes, Porsche). Naturally there are fewer of them on the road, so it's usually easier to find an available pump on the right side (assuming that all cars enter the station in the same direction).
one hell of a first post! makes since if you think about it though. still hoping that they put that gas cap on the driver side though. but now that I have your insight I cant get angry if it isnt
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The cap's on the passengers side on my CTS. No biggie. I still would like it on top of the left shoulder, but hey, I want cut out vents too, functional or not, but that's just me.
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1. I never let the gas get that low (I've never run out of gas...). If the gas gauge gets low, you just pull up to the pump. Filler'up.

2. Yes, I hate that part about being careful w/ the door at the pump. But, you would be just as careful any other time...at Walmart getting out next to another car, at the grocerty store, etc, etc, etc,...no different.
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My next question would be what is going to happen with the rear vents?
If you look closely at the pictures of the prototype on the trailer, you can see the vents exposed quite a bit where the camo is ironically enough, trying to cover the details. Either the vents are extremely deep, or they are completely cut out. Compare the black part to the white and you will see what I am talking about. I'm almost positive they are cut out completely. Not only that, I would imagine all the vehicles would come like that. It's cheaper for GM's bottom line to make only one type. Less machines to operate, you know! These pics are the shizzle! I can't get enough of them!

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I doubt they'll cut them open, and even if they do they'll be non-working... It's not like the slots will be cooling it's "mid-engine" or anything. I think it's cheesy too, designers shouldn't put non-functioning vents on cars-- leave that to Mattel. It worked nicely on the mustang because that's a cheesy car
Believe it or not, it helps stabilize the rear of the car if they are done correctly. It's all about airflow dynamics. There is also a way to channel the air into the braking system. I would not expect anything like that on her though. She's got to be priced right, 'ya know!
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