Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com
 
MPD1
Go Back   Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com > Technical Camaro Topics > Cosmetics and Lighting Modification Discussions

Cosmetics and Lighting Modification Discussions External and Internal cosmetics modifications.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 08-13-2012, 10:12 PM   #1
DMC1805
 
DMC1805's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS RS
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 104
Carbon Fiber Dash Mod

So here's my first crack at writing a thread. I am planning to do some carbon fiber overlay work in my Camaro. What I want to do is no just to wrap a carbon fiber vinyl over some of my dash pieces, but to use REAL carbon fiber and resin, molding it over some of my interior pieces. Then lacquering it and finally using a high solids automotive clear coat to give it that deep gloss look we have all come to know and love with carbon fiber.

Here are a few questions I have as I start with these modifications. First: I am thinking of use two types of carbon fiber's. I don't know yet which two. The first will be the standard 2X2 twill weave that everybody thinks of when we think about carbon fiber. The second type (which I am unsure of) is weather to use a colored carbon fabric (in the 2X2 weave) or to use a 8 harness satin weave. I know that I may be speaking another language when talking about these different weaves so I will post some pictures.

My second question is once I choose which style or color of carbon, which areas should I do with those contrasting carbons.

Additionally, throughout this thread I will be posting my progress of the wrapping as well as the removal and re-installation of the dash pieces.

Alright, here are some photos of what I am talking about. The first picture is of the standard 2X2 twill. The weave pattern is characterized by a diagonal rib created by one warp yarn floating over at least two filling yarns. The second is of what is called 8 harness satin weave. In this weave pattern there is a seven by one interfacing where a filling yarn floats over seven warp yarns and under one.

Next are the colors. My car I Silver Ice Metallic, so I am thinking of using a silver, grey or white colored material. I have added some other colored cloths for additional ideas though.

Finally is my interior. The door side panels and matching dash trim is one of the areas I am planning to do the carbon overlay. I am also planning on doing my steeling wheel insert and the gauge surround. Now here is where I am unsure. I want to remove the leather on the dash and do that part in carbon fiber, but with a contrasting pattern or color to the door panels and upper dash piece. Help me out with this. I am planning to start this mod within a few weeks.

Lastly I have a few photos from my previous vehicle and a carbon mod I did in the engine compartment to give you an idea of what the process is and what the final look will be. That was done in the 8 harness satin (8hs).
Attached Images
               
DMC1805 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2012, 10:21 PM   #2
DMC1805
 
DMC1805's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS RS
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 104
My initial thought is to do the door panels and upper dash area in 2X2 black twill and the leather dash piece in the 8HS with a vertical orientation of the cloth.
__________________
I gather my energy by feeding on the life-force of children.
DMC1805 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2012, 10:22 PM   #3
zkdreads


 
zkdreads's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro LS V6
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Tampa, Florida
Posts: 2,784
should look killer. good luck!
__________________
C-LO or Sonic
"Without Struggle there is no progress"
I am your best nightmare!
zkdreads is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2012, 10:23 PM   #4
camaro2lt
 
camaro2lt's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro 2lt VR/RS CGM Rally's
Join Date: May 2009
Location: palmyra pa
Posts: 5,214
i thought about doing this myself but instead i got a zl1 suede insert
camaro2lt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2012, 10:26 PM   #5
LIM3
it's mind bottling..
 
LIM3's Avatar
 
Drives: I drive the green one
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: I live where you vacation. Miami FL
Posts: 5,181
thats real nice.where did you get the CF kit ?
__________________
LIM3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2012, 10:31 PM   #6
DMC1805
 
DMC1805's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS RS
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 104
I ordered the carbon fiber cloth and resin from C & J Composites Technology. http://www.cjcompositestechnology.com I also bought some cloth from Composite Envisions http://www.compositeenvisions.com
The material is very inexpensive, but the labor to get everything looking great is why everything made of carbon fiber is so expensive.
__________________
I gather my energy by feeding on the life-force of children.
DMC1805 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2012, 10:39 PM   #7
DMC1805
 
DMC1805's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS RS
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 104
Here's a couple of pictures of red and blue carbon fiber as it would look on a finished trim piece.
Attached Images
  
__________________
I gather my energy by feeding on the life-force of children.
DMC1805 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2012, 10:42 PM   #8
LIM3
it's mind bottling..
 
LIM3's Avatar
 
Drives: I drive the green one
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: I live where you vacation. Miami FL
Posts: 5,181
very true, the outcome is well worth it tho. thank you very much for the link
__________________
LIM3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2012, 10:46 PM   #9
DMC1805
 
DMC1805's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS RS
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 104
Composite envisions has a green carbon fiber that you could use.
Attached Images
 
__________________
I gather my energy by feeding on the life-force of children.
DMC1805 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2012, 10:47 PM   #10
DMC1805
 
DMC1805's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS RS
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 104
I'm not sure if the color would match well or not though.
__________________
I gather my energy by feeding on the life-force of children.
DMC1805 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2012, 10:50 PM   #11
DMC1805
 
DMC1805's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS RS
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 104
The resin I use is UV stabilized and the tint on my car blocks 99% of all UV rays. So I'm not too worried about that.
__________________
I gather my energy by feeding on the life-force of children.
DMC1805 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2012, 12:27 AM   #12
DMC1805
 
DMC1805's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS RS
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 104
I checked out your site and your stuff looks really good!
__________________
I gather my energy by feeding on the life-force of children.
DMC1805 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2012, 02:04 AM   #13
Mister-Camaro
 
Mister-Camaro's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 2SS L99
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: California
Posts: 567
Im really liking the red carbon
Mister-Camaro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2012, 02:08 AM   #14
pyr0b0y
need....more....hp
 
pyr0b0y's Avatar
 
Drives: The Neighbor Hater
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: San Mateo, CA
Posts: 4,174
Good luck with your project. I've done some overlay, but its not easy and takes a lot of patience. I'm sure your pieces will look great.
__________________


Mast Motorsports Built LS3 Stroker 418, IPS GT35R Twin Turbos, Exedy GTO4XD Twin Disc Clutch, Aeromotive A1000 Eliminator Stealth Fuel Pump, AEM Meth Injection, DSS 1400hp Axels, BC Coilovers, Pfadt & BMR Suspension, Hawk HPS Pads, Drilled/Slotted Rotors, Hurst Shifter, Custom Roll Cage by Blu808, T3 Ports, 22" Custom Concave Mesh Rims
pyr0b0y is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2012, 12:47 PM   #15
IOM Black Diamond
HT5 COTW 1/21/13
 
IOM Black Diamond's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro Inferno 2SS RS 6M
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Pleasant Hill, Or
Posts: 2,493
Wow that loks good. I have always wanted to do something with carbon fiber.
__________________
IOM Black Diamond is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2012, 12:50 PM   #16
christianmotox


 
christianmotox's Avatar
 
Drives: ( . )( . )
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 2,700
Good luck with the project, that reminds me.. i need to get mine done... LOL
__________________
christianmotox is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-17-2012, 09:07 AM   #17
adamgl
 
adamgl's Avatar
 
Drives: '98 Camaro Z28, '06 Z06
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Missouri
Posts: 533
Looks awesome, makes me want to start doing some carbon fiber myself on my Z28. Z06 is already covered, lol.
__________________
'10 Camaro 2SS/RS A6 Sold :( ARH, FM Super 44's, K&N CAI, ADM scoop, Diablo Tune, RX catch can.
'98 Camaro Z28 M6 TSP headers, true duals, AIR/EGR/AC/muffler delete, CAI, Subframe con.,
shock tower brace, Stg. 2 T56 rebuild. Monster Clutch Stg. 2, Electric Water Pump, TT2 wheels, 315 NT555's
'06 Z06 2LZ, Cam, P/P/M Heads, FAST Intake/TB, ARH, CAI, HP Clutch/FW, C5 Axles,
Pfadt Coilovers/Poly Bushings, Carbon Fiber: Everything, lol. HID's, 360 Forged Spec 5's/Invo's, Custom Interior. 550 RWHP
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=235911
adamgl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2012, 12:03 AM   #18
DMC1805
 
DMC1805's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS RS
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 104
Alright, so I started to do some work on the door panels, dash trim and the center air vent surround.

I started by sanding everything down, one for good adhesion and two to reduce the thickness of the parts since the carbon fiber and resin will add up too a mm of thickness.

Name:  IMG_0979[2].jpg
Views: 4046
Size:  145.8 KB
Name:  IMG_0980[2].jpg
Views: 4128
Size:  154.2 KB

Next, since the parts are clear with the silver backing, I sprayed a light coat of black paint on the, just in case the fibers become separated at all and some of the plastic underneath shows through (I am using a 2x2 20 oz weigh fiber which is very dense and it's not likely that anything would show through).

Name:  IMG_0981[2].jpg
Views: 3836
Size:  235.0 KB


After the light coat of paint, I lightly sanded it again for adhesion purposes.

I then mixed up some bonding epoxy and coated the pieces.

Name:  IMG_0982[2].jpg
Views: 3875
Size:  202.6 KB
Name:  IMG_0983[1].jpg
Views: 3893
Size:  169.1 KB
Name:  IMG_0984[1].jpg
Views: 3859
Size:  221.0 KB

One the epoxy had tacked up, I laid out my pre-cut pieces of carbon fiber, making sure to keep the fibers straight so the lines look sharp and not wavy. I pressed the cloth down onto the tacky resin and worked it into the creases and edges of the items wrapped.

Name:  IMG_0985[1].jpg
Views: 3836
Size:  355.3 KB

Now I will let the epoxy set and dry.

Once it is dry (actually next weekend when I'm off) I will coat the pieces with several layers of epoxy.

I will then post pics of that process.
__________________
I gather my energy by feeding on the life-force of children.

Last edited by DMC1805; 09-14-2012 at 04:09 AM.
DMC1805 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2012, 12:13 AM   #19
DMC1805
 
DMC1805's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS RS
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 104
Ok attachments are fixed.
__________________
I gather my energy by feeding on the life-force of children.
DMC1805 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2012, 08:20 AM   #20
Pharmaro
 
Pharmaro's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 CGM 2SS/RS
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Louisville
Posts: 351
Maybe you haven't gotten to this part yet, but what Clear are you using? I've wrapped my door sills with a CF skin and basically did the sanding/polishing method. Moving forward, id like to try a good quality clear.

Thanks!
Pharmaro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2012, 10:05 AM   #21
Horriblecreation
 
Horriblecreation's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 1LT/RS
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Savannah, GA
Posts: 148
this thread is awesome man, please keep posting updates and steps you are taking!!!!!! I have all the materials to do my own carbon fiber parts (I also want to do the door inserts) but I just havent had the balls to start yet, so this is awesome to see!!! keep it up!!!
__________________
A little go, mostly show
Horriblecreation is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2012, 12:28 PM   #22
goval
Anderson B.
 
goval's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 Chevy Camaro 2SS RS
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 583
I'm gonna do this mod to my dash pieces.
__________________
2011 IOM SS/RS
goval is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2012, 01:08 PM   #23
navyflyer72
 
Drives: 2010 2SS/RS 6spd, BLK/CYB GRY
Join Date: May 2009
Location: MD
Posts: 422
How far around the edges do you wrap the CF to get a finished look once the pieces are installed? i am guessing you use a pair of very sharp scissors to cut the CF once it is affixed to the part?

This looks great, subscribed! A video of the processes you go through to do this would be a huge help to those of us who have never worked with CF cloth.

good luck this looks to be a great mod thread.
__________________
The Zac Hartwell & Ryan Dunn Tribute Camaro Project and Tour
Benefiting the Wounded Warrior Project & Garth Brooks Teammates for Kids
navyflyer72 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2012, 02:07 PM   #24
LIM3
it's mind bottling..
 
LIM3's Avatar
 
Drives: I drive the green one
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: I live where you vacation. Miami FL
Posts: 5,181
Looking good. I want to try this my self
__________________
LIM3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2012, 02:10 PM   #25
DMC1805
 
DMC1805's Avatar
 
Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS RS
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 104
Obviously I drape the cloth over the edges. After I have added the resin and it has hardened, I will cut off the excess with a dremel and sand the edges to give it a real clean look. I will post pics when I get to that step.
__________________
I gather my energy by feeding on the life-force of children.
DMC1805 is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:38 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.