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Old 08-15-2012, 01:19 PM   #26
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Personally I think with the model lineup they have now, they're good until the 6th gen comes out. If they continue the SS, 1LE, and ZL1 in the 6th gen, I don't see how they could get the Z28 in there... And that's OK with me. Yes the Z28 is a legendary name, yes it has a bunch of heritage, yes only one Camaro can be a Z28 and any car can be an SS, but we have a great lineup regardless of their names.

PS - Unlike a lot of members on this site, I do know the Camaro existed prior to 2010, so I know the Z28 heritage.
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Old 08-15-2012, 01:27 PM   #27
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shave 300 pounds from the SS and give it ZL1 suspension = Z28 for roadracing.
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Old 08-15-2012, 01:48 PM   #29
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Here's my guess as to what the Z28 will be

new alpha platform - lightweight, nimble, highly configurable
small displacement, high revving Gen V LS V8 - should make at least 475hp N/A
better drivetrain than SS (closer to whats in the 1LE)


I'm also guessing that it will debut at the Detroit Auto Show as the 6th generation Camaro in 2015/6
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Gen V LS V8
No such thing as a Gen V LS.
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Old 08-15-2012, 02:06 PM   #31
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No such thing as a Gen V LS.
Not yet...

But the next generation Camaro will have one. As will the next generation GM Fullsize trucks. Which are due out in a year or so
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Old 08-15-2012, 02:08 PM   #32
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What I meant was the Gen V is not an "LS" motor. They're resurrecting the "LT" designation.
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Old 08-15-2012, 03:09 PM   #33
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Hmm, it seems you may be right. But whats in a name, or is that the point of this thread

Either way it will be a Gen V GM Small Block Engine. With direct injection and a really high redline (hopefully)
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They should have called the 1LE a Z28, Scrap the goofy black hood and put hood and deck stripes on it with a silver grille and Z/28 badges. I always kinda thought the 5th gen SS shouldn't have ever been offered with Z/28 hood and deck stripes. While I have them on my car, they aren't really SS stripes, SS's should get the hockey sticks on the fenders/doors.
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Old 08-15-2012, 06:44 PM   #35
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It was attached to the legendary racing team of Roger Penske and Mark Donohue. It was a high-profile winner. Chevy specifically built it to compete in the Can-Am; it wasn't a regular street car that somebody took and started racing with it. They built the street legal versions so they could claim it was a production model and thus be qualified to run in the Can-Am.

It was a very special model for a very special purpose; one that brought Chevy racing prestige and glory; it put the bow tie in the winner's circle in a very tough and competitive series. When you saw a Camaro on the street with Z/28 on the side it had instant respect... so much so in fact that adding a "Z" to a name became fashionable to try and grab some of that glory and respect.

If you aren't old enough to remember or know, then you probably wouldn't understand. Just take it from those of us who are old enough; it's a big deal.
Not trying to stir the pot lol, but if I was cruising around back in the day in a ls6 chevelle and lined up next a 69 z28 I wouldn't be showing it or giving it any respect hahaha. Maybe a SS 396.

Hahaha kidding aside but yeah the Z28 was a monster in the can am, but I don't see a place for another v8 model in the current line up. If its even better on a road course and faster than the ZL1 Chevys ultimate camaro is out of place then.
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Oh WOW, where do I begin. The above link to a special Z28 thread is good reading. Yes I know it's long, but if you'd like to know it should give many of you a better understanding of what a Z28 was and should again be. It will tell you why GM was so obliged to call the ZL1 a ZL1 and not call it a Z28. Also why the 1LE is named a 1LE not a Z28. Enjoy!

Oh and the racing series was Trans Am (SCCA) not Can Am. They were 2 very very different series. Google it!
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Obviously this thread was moved to this forum from somewhere else on this site. Let's get a couple of facts straight, the Z/28 was not originally made to compete with the Boss 302 in the Can-Am series, the series was the SCCA TranAm Sedan Series and the Z/28 was produced over two years before the Boss 302 ever existed. Almost everyone that posted in this thread would do well to read some of the threads/info that has already been posted in this forum over the last three years or so, I'll not try to repeat all of that in this brief reply, I will just say we have considered many things and discussed what is possible and what is not really workable. I do appreciate everyone's interest (or non interest for some) in a Z/28, time will tell if it is produced for the fifth. gen Camaro, sixth gen Camaro, or never.
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Old 08-15-2012, 08:28 PM   #39
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Yes Clyde, I agree this thread came from outside the Z28 thread universe. However I do enjoy the new (positive only) recruits.
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Old 08-15-2012, 08:33 PM   #40
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They're not going to put a V6 of any kind in a car with the name Z/28 on it; these guys are car enthusiasts, not corporate suits from accounting. They know what the Z/28 was and they know what it needs to be.

The Z/28 was never about horsepower; it wasn't a drag racer. It was a Can-Am challenger to take on the Boss 302 on the great road courses of the day. The 1LE option on an SS gives you a clue of the direction they're going to go in with the next Z/28. They're learning on the models they've already released. The ZL1 is a suspension wonder-car; it shows what can be done with handling using that magnetic suspension technology, but it's too heavy to be a Z/28 which is probably why they didn't give it that name. The 1LE shows how they're looking at the drivetrain; not just the suspension. They're learning; studying; developing; experimenting. You can see it with these special releases. Look at what the COPO Camaro can do right out of the box.

The car they actually feel is worth being called a Z/28 is going to be a game changer. Can't wait to see what they come up with.

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I noticed a lot of people are wishing for the return of the Z28. The ZL1 has 500+ HP and theirs the Panther option that's 600+ HP,what would the Z28 have? How different will it look? How much? Just wondering what you all would think a modern Z28 would be like?
....pardon me but what's a Panther option?
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ls9 z28 with pdk tranny haha
...no, because a LS9 is a S/C engine, the Z/28 should be N/A....
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shave 300 pounds from the SS and give it ZL1 suspension = Z28 for roadracing.
...this is a dead horse argument about shaving weight in any meaningful form from the factory in the Gen 5 Camaro, we have gone over and over this, it can not be done in any significant amount.....
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Here's my guess as to what the Z28 will be

new alpha platform - lightweight, nimble, highly configurable
small displacement, high revving Gen V LS V8 - should make at least 475hp N/A
better drivetrain than SS (closer to whats in the 1LE)


I'm also guessing that it will debut at the Detroit Auto Show as the 6th generation Camaro in 2015/6
...my read is the Z/28 will come in a Gen 6...the current line will stand throughout MY '14 with the ZL1, SS, and 1 LE option without any real, substantive changes to any platform until that time when we get the new chasis.
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...yes, the mainstay long standing premise of the Z/28 argument has been in place that was put forth a long time ago. Let's use it up before it goes bye bye.
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Obviously this thread was moved to this forum from somewhere else on this site. Let's get a couple of facts straight, the Z/28 was not originally made to compete with the Boss 302 in the Can-Am series, the series was the SCCA TranAm Sedan Series and the Z/28 was produced over two years before the Boss 302 ever existed. Almost everyone that posted in this thread would do well to read some of the threads/info that has already been posted in this forum over the last three years or so, I'll not try to repeat all of that in this brief reply, I will just say we have considered many things and discussed what is possible and what is not really workable. I do appreciate everyone's interest (or non interest for some) in a Z/28, time will tell if it is produced for the fifth. gen Camaro, sixth gen Camaro, or never.
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To make it simple;

ZR1 = ZL1
Z06 = Z28
GS = 1LE
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....pardon me but what's a Panther option?
It's an SLP built black and gold supercharged Camaro similar to the ZL585s and such.
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The Panther was the original name for the Camaro before it was actually released
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If I was in charge I'd be in talks with Ford and Dodge to resurrect the old Can-Am series and use that as a collective showcase for the "new" muscle cars of American manufacturers. Nascar has completely lost touch with it's grass roots and I think it would be great to have a new racing series with street cars like the ones you can buy and drive.

If it was a joint marketing/sponsoring effort between the big 3 muscle car companies I think it would be very popular and boost the sales of those cars a lot.

I'm just dreaming about a new Can-Am series.

The series you should be watching is the GS Continental series. It's awesome!
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It's an SLP built black and gold supercharged Camaro similar to the ZL585s and such.
So not a GM/Chevy option. I just have to wonder why people insist on throwing everything including the kitchen sink into a discussion like this.
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The 5th Gen is quite capable on track. This is video from a test session with the Raymond's Performance Camaro. The brake pads were a dismal failure, but that is why you test. Consider that variable fixed The tracks is Putnam Park. It is a 10/10ths driving event. Many of the cars run slicks. We are on 200+ tread wear to be OPTIMA compliant. The Camaro is a full street car complete with all the amenities from the factory. We have not taken anything out to reduce weight. With bad pads and brake fade, the Camaro is still passing some rather impressive cars.





The Lingenfelter L/28 has taken 3 1sts on OUSCI circuit. We are not finished with either one.
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Thanks Pete.

Now Please everyone stop worrying about the 5Gen's weight!
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Oh WOW, where do I begin. The above link to a special Z28 thread is good reading. Yes I know it's long, but if you'd like to know it should give many of you a better understanding of what a Z28 was and should again be. It will tell you why GM was so obliged to call the ZL1 a ZL1 and not call it a Z28. Also why the 1LE is named a 1LE not a Z28. Enjoy!

Oh and the racing series was Trans Am (SCCA) not Can Am. They were 2 very very different series. Google it!
DOH! yeah the Trans Am; I was looking at some old videos of the Jim Hall Chaparral cars and had Can Am stuck in my head. You're right!
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