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Old 08-15-2012, 08:41 PM   #43
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....pardon me but what's a Panther option?
It's an SLP built black and gold supercharged Camaro similar to the ZL585s and such.
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Old 08-15-2012, 08:43 PM   #44
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Old 08-15-2012, 08:43 PM   #45
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The Panther was the original name for the Camaro before it was actually released
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Old 08-15-2012, 08:51 PM   #46
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If I was in charge I'd be in talks with Ford and Dodge to resurrect the old Can-Am series and use that as a collective showcase for the "new" muscle cars of American manufacturers. Nascar has completely lost touch with it's grass roots and I think it would be great to have a new racing series with street cars like the ones you can buy and drive.

If it was a joint marketing/sponsoring effort between the big 3 muscle car companies I think it would be very popular and boost the sales of those cars a lot.

I'm just dreaming about a new Can-Am series.

The series you should be watching is the GS Continental series. It's awesome!
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Old 08-15-2012, 09:09 PM   #47
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It's an SLP built black and gold supercharged Camaro similar to the ZL585s and such.
So not a GM/Chevy option. I just have to wonder why people insist on throwing everything including the kitchen sink into a discussion like this.
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Old 08-15-2012, 09:47 PM   #48
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The 5th Gen is quite capable on track. This is video from a test session with the Raymond's Performance Camaro. The brake pads were a dismal failure, but that is why you test. Consider that variable fixed The tracks is Putnam Park. It is a 10/10ths driving event. Many of the cars run slicks. We are on 200+ tread wear to be OPTIMA compliant. The Camaro is a full street car complete with all the amenities from the factory. We have not taken anything out to reduce weight. With bad pads and brake fade, the Camaro is still passing some rather impressive cars.





The Lingenfelter L/28 has taken 3 1sts on OUSCI circuit. We are not finished with either one.
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Thanks Pete.

Now Please everyone stop worrying about the 5Gen's weight!
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Old 08-15-2012, 10:13 PM   #50
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Oh WOW, where do I begin. The above link to a special Z28 thread is good reading. Yes I know it's long, but if you'd like to know it should give many of you a better understanding of what a Z28 was and should again be. It will tell you why GM was so obliged to call the ZL1 a ZL1 and not call it a Z28. Also why the 1LE is named a 1LE not a Z28. Enjoy!

Oh and the racing series was Trans Am (SCCA) not Can Am. They were 2 very very different series. Google it!
DOH! yeah the Trans Am; I was looking at some old videos of the Jim Hall Chaparral cars and had Can Am stuck in my head. You're right!
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Obviously this thread was moved to this forum from somewhere else on this site. Let's get a couple of facts straight, the Z/28 was not originally made to compete with the Boss 302 in the Can-Am series, the series was the SCCA TranAm Sedan Series and the Z/28 was produced over two years before the Boss 302 ever existed. Almost everyone that posted in this thread would do well to read some of the threads/info that has already been posted in this forum over the last three years or so, I'll not try to repeat all of that in this brief reply, I will just say we have considered many things and discussed what is possible and what is not really workable. I do appreciate everyone's interest (or non interest for some) in a Z/28, time will tell if it is produced for the fifth. gen Camaro, sixth gen Camaro, or never.
You're right on the Trans-Am; I had Can-Am stuck in my head from watching old videos the other night. I remember seeing the first Z/28 in 1968 and the Boss 302 being introduced that same year. I remember Chevy winning and Ford losing. I'll do some research as to actual dates though since that was a long time ago and my memory might be slightly off a year or two.

When you say "we"... whom are you referring to?
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You're right on the Trans-Am; I had Can-Am stuck in my head from watching old videos the other night. I remember seeing the first Z/28 in 1968 and the Boss 302 being introduced that same year. I remember Chevy winning and Ford losing. I'll do some research as to actual dates though since that was a long time ago and my memory might be slightly off a year or two.

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The Z/28 went into production in December 1966 as a '67 model. In 1968 the Mustang was still running the Tunnel Port 302 which was a dismal failure, the Boss 302 was released as a '69 model. The "we" is all of the Z/28 forum regulars that have been discussing/debating these issues for quite a long time.
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The Z/28 went into production in December 1966 as a '67 model. In 1968 the Mustang was still running the Tunnel Port 302 which was a dismal failure, the Boss 302 was released as a '69 model. The "we" is all of the Z/28 forum regulars that have been discussing/debating these issues for quite a long time.
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So after doing some reading it seems the idea of the Z/28 was developed in 1966 and it was produced and sold in 1967 of which there were only 602 sold which explains why I don't remember seeing one on the street in 1967; there weren't that many made. I remember seeing them in 1968 though and I believe the Boss 302 began sales in 1968 although it was model year 1969.

I didn't know the back story of Vincent Piggins; I always thought it was Pete Estes that was responsible. He was the one who approved it but it was interesting reading Piggin's account of how that came about.

It was indeed created for the Trans-Am series and Chevy had to produce enough for the street to qualify it. It was interesting to read how they managed that qualification lol.

http://camaros.us/camaro-z28-history-first-gen/

I remember Riverside Raceway; met Mark Donohue out there once and got his autograph on my pit pass which I still have. That was such a great track; saw many great races by legendary drivers. Wish it was still around; it was one-of-a-kind but they tore it down and put up a stupid mall.

After seeing the ZL1 and 1LE, whatever the Chevy team finally does to be worth the name Z/28, it's going to be a great car.
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So after doing some reading it seems the idea of the Z/28 was developed in 1966 and it was produced and sold in 1967 of which there were only 602 sold which explains why I don't remember seeing one on the street in 1967; there weren't that many made. I remember seeing them in 1968 though and I believe the Boss 302 began sales in 1968 although it was model year 1969.

I didn't know the back story of Vincent Piggins; I always thought it was Pete Estes that was responsible. He was the one who approved it but it was interesting reading Piggin's account of how that came about.

It was indeed created for the Trans-Am series and Chevy had to produce enough for the street to qualify it. It was interesting to read how they managed that qualification lol.

http://camaros.us/camaro-z28-history-first-gen/

I remember Riverside Raceway; met Mark Donohue out there once and got his autograph on my pit pass which I still have. That was such a great track; saw many great races by legendary drivers. Wish it was still around; it was one-of-a-kind but they tore it down and put up a stupid mall.

After seeing the ZL1 and 1LE, whatever the Chevy team finally does to be worth the name Z/28, it's going to be a great car.
Actually there were as few on the street in '67, when I was shopping for new '67, one of the Chevy dealers in town had a burgundy one on their used car lot. At that point I didn't really know/understand what they were, so only looked it over briefly, bought a new RS Camaro instead. And yes, there were more on the street in '68 and by then I knew exactly what a Z/28 was.
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Old 08-16-2012, 09:37 AM   #55
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DOH! yeah the Trans Am; I was looking at some old videos of the Jim Hall Chaparral cars and had Can Am stuck in my head. You're right!
Yes the Chapparels, Maclarens and the Lola T70 is my all time favorite. They could do all most anything they wanted with a Can Am car. I believe some had upwards of a 1,000 HP.
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Good posts Doc.......maybe we can make Doc an OG.....
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