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Old 08-27-2012, 02:34 PM   #101
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Old 08-27-2012, 04:57 PM   #102
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Ok, heres my prediction for the Z28. It comes out as a 6th gen on the new chassis platform. The SS is dropped from the line and the Z28 badge replaces it. The engine will be a 302ci Direct Injected V8 making between 380 and 420hp. The second or third year of 6th gen Z28 will get a 1LE package just like the 5th gen did. I honestly think that other then some appearance packages, the 1LE will be the last major change to the 5th gen car. I would guess that most major development work is going into the 6th gen cars at this point.
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Except that the chassis for the 6th gen will be different from the 5th and developing a suspension on it won't help the 6th gen.
Just to add to your comments, if I remember correctly the Alpha chassis that will be used for the 6th gen Camaro was tested at the Ring in it's Cadillac ATS configuration, so that should give Chevy some good starting points to further refine the Alpha chassis.
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The 1LE is fine for the Z28. Any more than that and your talking aftermarket, eh Pete. Remember it's gotta be streetable. It's the brakes, aero and power it needs to make it a Z28.
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The 1LE is fine for the Z28. Any more than that and your talking aftermarket, eh Pete. Remember it's gotta be streetable. It's the brakes, aero and power it needs to make it a Z28.
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The 1LE is fine for the Z28. Any more than that and your talking aftermarket, eh Pete. Remember it's gotta be streetable. It's the brakes, aero and power it needs to make it a Z28.
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I swear i'm not trying to stir the pot here, but I know this post is going to do that lol.

What are you guys gonna do if GM makes the Z/28 like it was last time. Just the name on the V-8 Model camaro. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but wasnt the Z28 the second tier trim level on the 02 Camaro and SS was top of the line.
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I swear i'm not trying to stir the pot here, but I know this post is going to do that lol.

What are you guys gonna do if GM makes the Z/28 like it was last time. Just the name on the V-8 Model camaro. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but wasnt the Z28 the second tier trim level on the 02 Camaro and SS was top of the line.
I'll continue to build our own version of the Z/28 that specializes in walking all over allegedly superior name plates. I have no interest in a z/28
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I swear i'm not trying to stir the pot here, but I know this post is going to do that lol.

What are you guys gonna do if GM makes the Z/28 like it was last time. Just the name on the V-8 Model camaro. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but wasnt the Z28 the second tier trim level on the 02 Camaro and SS was top of the line.
They already kinda did that; it's the 1LE. The 5th gen Camaro isn't just a "new" retro remake. It's inspired by the 1969 Camaro but it's a totally new, modern car. The Z/28 will follow the same philosophy. Right out of the box it's not going to beat customized cars but few showroom models that run on the street do. However it will be a great starting point for customizing because things that are expensive to add individually like cooling, oil systems, transmissions, differentials, axles, hubs, etc. will already be there at a price point way cheaper than could be done piece by piece afterwards.

I can easily imagine a Pedderized Z/28 being downright scary on the track.

I think we're right on the edge of a new golden age of performance, and as long as governments of the world don't melt down under socialism and stupidity, we're about to see some incredible advances in the automotive world.
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I swear i'm not trying to stir the pot here, but I know this post is going to do that lol.

What are you guys gonna do if GM makes the Z/28 like it was last time. Just the name on the V-8 Model camaro. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but wasnt the Z28 the second tier trim level on the 02 Camaro and SS was top of the line.
I don't think GM/Chevy will make that mistake again, they got enough flak from performance folks/potential purchasers when they wanted to name the current ZL1 as a Z/28. I think any Z/28 Chevy decides to build will be more like the first and very early second gen. Z/28 than the later watered down versions.
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I swear i'm not trying to stir the pot here, but I know this post is going to do that lol.

What are you guys gonna do if GM makes the Z/28 like it was last time. Just the name on the V-8 Model camaro. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but wasnt the Z28 the second tier trim level on the 02 Camaro and SS was top of the line.
Moot point. No need to worry, FbodFather already said the nameplate is worthy of MUCH honor. Move along nothing to see here.
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Moot point. No need to worry, FbodFather already said the nameplate is worthy of MUCH honor. Move along nothing to see here.
And I remember Al O and GM making some bold statements about the ZL1 that arent true.

which is why I am asking lol, I sense the GM hype machine building again
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And I remember Al O and GM making some bold statements about the ZL1 that arent true.

which is why I am asking lol, I sense the GM hype machine building again
Your comment is apples and oranges.
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And I remember Al O and GM making some bold statements about the ZL1 that arent true.
And which statements would those be?
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Old 08-28-2012, 05:12 PM   #115
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And I remember Al O and GM making some bold statements about the ZL1 that arent true.

which is why I am asking lol, I sense the GM hype machine building again
Don't you have another one of your car forum sites you can go to and stir the pot?
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Don't you have another one of your car forum sites you can go to and stir the pot?
Yes!

We're not interested in your baiting attempts.
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Don't you have another one of your car forum sites you can go to and stir the pot?
No bc, the the other forums I post on aren't so sensitive. you can actually speak your mind.

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And which statements would those be?
This may not have been al o but the press release saying 11s at the 1/4 sub 2.0 60'.

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Yes!

We're not interested in your baiting attempts.
If you think I'm trying to bait you into a verbal sparring match I am not. Why bc the car doesn't exist I have nothing to argue. I asked a simple question about what if it becomes like the 3rd and 4th gen Z28s, just the name of the v8 model. Your answer just kind of reminded me of the hype around the z hence my comment

I got a the answering was looking for from wild paws, and Should have just left it at that. So carry on
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I'll continue to build our own version of the Z/28 that specializes in walking all over allegedly superior name plates. I have no interest in a z/28
So Pete you like em Big?
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I swear i'm not trying to stir the pot here, but I know this post is going to do that lol.

What are you guys gonna do if GM makes the Z/28 like it was last time. Just the name on the V-8 Model camaro. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but wasnt the Z28 the second tier trim level on the 02 Camaro and SS was top of the line.
...there's a guy around here named fbodfather that ain't gonna let that happen, as sure as God made apples.....
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...there's a guy around here named fbodfather that ain't gonna let that happen, as sure as God made apples.....
Yeah the SS is the base V8, which makes just as much sense....
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Old 08-29-2012, 01:10 AM   #123
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At this point I don't think it's likely that Chevrolet with produce a 5th Gen Z28 due to required price point, weight constraints, and timing, but when the 6th Gen Z28 is produced, which I think will becomes a reality, I think that it will be more than worth the wait and well worthy of the hallowed name plate, given the commitment I've heard from the Camaro team.
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Been spending more time reading around this section of the forum. Seems like Team Camaro knew they messed up the Z28 in the 3rd and 4th gens and wants to do it right next time around. Which is basically what you guys told me lol.
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Old 08-29-2012, 08:42 AM   #125
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IIRC, the earliest 3rd gen Z28 was the hardcore handling choice of the entire F-body spectrum. Just that in 1982 the power levels weren't there to live up to the heritage.


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