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Old 03-03-2012, 09:40 PM   #1
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ZL1 wheels

Anyone know if these ZL1 wheels are available yet and how much by any chance.
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Old 03-03-2012, 09:50 PM   #2
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I was quoted the cost for the SSX wheels through a dealership. I thought some people might be interested.

FYI: SSX = RSK (Dealership letter designation)

Front wheels: RSK
20"X10"---$1088.37 each + tax

Rear wheels: RSK
20"X11"---$1091.14 each + tax

Front tires---Goodyear Eagle F1 SuperCar G:2
P285/35ZR20---$506.82 each + tax

Rear tires---Goodyear Eagle F1 SuperCar G:2
P305/35ZR20---$643.18 each + tax

Mount and balance four tires---$110.00 + tax

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ZL1 (SSX rims)
Front: 22798741 MSRP: $1038 each (GM)
Rear: 22798743 MSRP: $1041 each (GM)

I've posted these numbers plenty of times... they are available in many threads... and you can get them for 780ish with a $50 core charge I believe
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I wonder how much they way vs. stock 20's
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Old 03-03-2012, 11:39 PM   #3
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Old 03-04-2012, 08:26 AM   #4
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If we buy 2 front rims for the back, would we have a better selection of all season tires? I wonder if they would they fit ok and look ok?
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Old 03-04-2012, 08:41 AM   #5
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P Zero's are available in the 305 and 315 sizes.
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Old 03-04-2012, 08:55 AM   #6
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P Zero's are available in the 305 and 315 sizes.
How bout 285?
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or you could swap the rear 275 for the fronts and only buy 2 for the rear.
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Old 03-04-2012, 09:04 AM   #8
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never mind about the swaping tires profiles are all wrong I forget the ZL1 sports 35 profiles all around, and the SS sports 45's.

however P Zero's are available in 285 and 305
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never mind about the swaping tires profiles are all wrong I forget the ZL1 sports 35 profiles all around, and the SS sports 45's.

however P Zero's are available in 285 and 305
I want to try another better brand other than P Zero's
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Just remember if you change out your tires the PTM system may not work as effectively......


"After dinner we had the opportunity to rub shoulders with the ZL1 engineers…Aaron Link graciously took me through the basics of tire-tread design: these aren’t your off-the-shelf Eagle F1s…they are tailored specifically to the ZL1. And he briefly explained the ins and outs of the MR system. Note to users: Performance Traction Management is aware that the car was designed with Eagle F1:G2 supercar tires. These means it expects a certain contact patch, deformation under load, and traction values (among other things) to be present when it adjusts power delivery and MR stiffness. Replacing these tires with a different brand won’t hurt anything, and may increase available traction for skilled drivers with the nannies off – but PTM won’t work as effectively as it does with the Goodyears"

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Just remember if you change out your tires the PTM system may not work as effectively......


"After dinner we had the opportunity to rub shoulders with the ZL1 engineers…Aaron Link graciously took me through the basics of tire-tread design: these aren’t your off-the-shelf Eagle F1s…they are tailored specifically to the ZL1. And he briefly explained the ins and outs of the MR system. Note to users: Performance Traction Management is aware that the car was designed with Eagle F1:G2 supercar tires. These means it expects a certain contact patch, deformation under load, and traction values (among other things) to be present when it adjusts power delivery and MR stiffness. Replacing these tires with a different brand won’t hurt anything, and may increase available traction for skilled drivers with the nannies off – but PTM won’t work as effectively as it does with the Goodyears"

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This. You want to stick with Goodyears for the ZL1
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Old 03-07-2012, 09:46 AM   #12
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Can anyone tell me how wide of a wheel i can put on my 2011 SS. i cant seem to get traction, and would like something a little wider than what i have now. i am currently sporting the havoc 20X9.5 in the rear, I love the wheels i have and dont really want to buy a whole new set but will do if i need to.
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This. You want to stick with Goodyears for the ZL1
Seeing this statement from Dragoneye really made me rethink my upgrades... However - it was more regarding the PTM system, and if that's defeated, it may not matter as much. It is pretty cool to know that it's taking all that into account though.
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Can anyone tell me how wide of a wheel i can put on my 2011 SS. i cant seem to get traction, and would like something a little wider than what i have now. i am currently sporting the havoc 20X9.5 in the rear, I love the wheels i have and dont really want to buy a whole new set but will do if i need to.
Traction isn't only a matter of tire size. You might want to look at the specific type of tire, too, for your driving. For example: if you're spending time at the strip, you should consider a dedicated drag radial. There are DOT-legal DRs out there that aren't terribly expensive, however, they're not good unless it's dry and warm and don't last long.
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Yeah im on the fence between a set of nittos and the pirellis for the rear. My decision will depend greatly on life expectancy of the nittos, do you have any idea on how long the life of the nittos would be compared to the pirellis. I've got 18,000 miles on the originals. I spend the majority of my time on the street with occasional trips to the track, at least until i get a few more mods.
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Just remember if you change out your tires the PTM system may not work as effectively......


"After dinner we had the opportunity to rub shoulders with the ZL1 engineers…Aaron Link graciously took me through the basics of tire-tread design: these aren’t your off-the-shelf Eagle F1s…they are tailored specifically to the ZL1. And he briefly explained the ins and outs of the MR system. Note to users: Performance Traction Management is aware that the car was designed with Eagle F1:G2 supercar tires. These means it expects a certain contact patch, deformation under load, and traction values (among other things) to be present when it adjusts power delivery and MR stiffness. Replacing these tires with a different brand won’t hurt anything, and may increase available traction for skilled drivers with the nannies off – but PTM won’t work as effectively as it does with the Goodyears"

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this may be true under normal temps but in realy cold or slick conditions you don't want these goodyears on the car period.

In freezing/slick contions PTM is kind of irrelevent. who is going to be driving hard and fast in slick conditions?? you just need you tires to actually grip the surface period.

a set of front wheels for the back might be a good solution for those who have to drive in these conditions. If I had to drive in ice or snow with a car like this I would want tires rated for it. on my 66 chevelle and my last mustang after I updraded the suspentions and switched to max perfromance summer tires they were almost impossible to drive in the ice and snow. not only was the rear grip bad but the front tires would not track very well either. I have never driven either of my vett's in ICE or snow because of these type of tires.
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Does anyone have the offsets for the ZL1 rims yet?
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Old 03-07-2012, 07:03 PM   #18
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My F1's showed up today! just need to install them now.
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My F1's showed up today! just need to install them now.
Could you measure them and get me the offset? I assume you know how.... if not, PM me and I will tell you. Those are the OEM rims right?

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Could you measure them and get me the offset? I assume you know how.... if not, PM me and I will tell you. Those are the OEM rims right?

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Question, and not trying to be rude or anything - but you did see the price tag for the rims right?
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Question, and not trying to be rude or anything - but you did see the price tag for the rims right?
Yeah and up here in Canada they are $1500 each.... Its absolutely ridiculous
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Question, and not trying to be rude or anything - but you did see the price tag for the rims right?
What does the price have to do with the offset? Not understanding how you are being rude either.

I have found the rims for less than $800 a rim shipped, BTW. The rubber for $1,790 for all four.
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What does the price have to do with the offset? Not understanding how you are being rude either.

I have found the rims for less than $800 a rim shipped, BTW. The rubber for $1,600 for all four.
I guess my question was more about why are you asking for the offsets when the rims are ~%1,100 a piece. I love these wheels, but I just can't shell out that much for a set of wheels.
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I guess my question was more about why are you asking for the offsets when the rims are ~%1,100 a piece. I love these wheels, but I just can't shell out that much for a set of wheels.
Because I like the look of the rims and want to compare the weight of these OEM's against a set of forgelines in the same size to see which are the better buy and lighter.
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Give it some time....once they hit the market the price will come down.

At least I'm hoping so too....
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