Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com
 
HAVOC
Go Back   Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums - Camaro5.com > Engine | Drivetrain | Powertrain Technical Discussions > Camaro V8 LS3 / L99 Engine, Exhaust, and Bolt-Ons

Camaro V8 LS3 / L99 Engine, Exhaust, and Bolt-Ons Bolt-Ons | Intakes | Exhaust

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 05-27-2009, 10:53 PM   #26
nUcLeArEnVoY
Oldbie that nobody knows
 
nUcLeArEnVoY's Avatar
 
Drives: people crazy.
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Homestead, FL
Posts: 3,245
Send a message via AIM to nUcLeArEnVoY
God, that is a tempting setup. Post up a vid and I might just carve it in stone for when I get my car.
__________________
nUcLeArEnVoY is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2009, 10:58 PM   #27
GMtothecore
"That Guy"
 
GMtothecore's Avatar
 
Drives: Camaro SS...........what else?
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: OOOOOOOklahoma where the wind comes sweepin' down the plains.
Posts: 2,402
Looks amazing.....and awesome gains!!!
__________________
GMtothecore is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2009, 11:00 PM   #28
RonC
 
Drives: 2010 2SS - RS
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: NW Arkansas
Posts: 80
Quote:
Originally Posted by ADM PERFORMANCE View Post
From Nick at ARH

Guys we just ran the system you're looking at on the dyno. Not unlike the G8, the power gains were staggering The car picked up an SAE corrected 32 RWHP without a tune and a stock air intake. The tune brought the car to gains of 50RWHP and 45 TQ still with the stock air intake. These Camaro's come with a very anemic factory exhaust system and flat out benefit greatly from our header system.



The system pictured is 100% U.S. made using the finest 304 S/S and comes with our OEM S/S band clamps, Grade 8 harware, one pair of O2 ext. harnesses and Flat Out Racing gaskets. The install is quite simple even for a backyard wrench. Pricing is being set as we determine all our part numbers. There's quite a few options. If anyone has questions please feel free to call me at 631-608-1986. You can email me at nick@americanracingheaders.com



Thanks.



Sincerely,

Nick Filippides

Project Manager

American Racing Headers

PH. 631-608-1986

FAX. 631-789-4157

Nick@americanracingheaders.com



Very good looking system and great HP gains. Were these gains with the 1 7/8" headers? If so, have you dyno tested with the 1 3/4" also and what were the results? Any dyno graphs available for us to see?
RonC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2009, 11:11 PM   #29
themossman
Apprehensive Optimist
 
themossman's Avatar
 
Drives: '10 SS/RS SIM
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: JAX
Posts: 1,387
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZZcamaro View Post
These bolt up to your stock exhaust....they used the stock mufflers and still saw 50RWHP!!! ( i have confirmed it that they did test with the stock mufflers.)
I told you these were going to be an amazing product!

Check out the Group Buy thread if you are looking to get your hands on these ASAP. I am closing that group purchase in just a couple of days.

Way to go ARH !!! I cannot wait to get these installed on my car in the next two weeks!
And Thanks to Nick for all of the info and help!
link to thread??? thanks...
themossman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2009, 11:13 PM   #30
ZZcamaro


 
Drives: 2SS w/ ZZ427 Package!!
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 2,706
Quote:
Originally Posted by themossman View Post
link to thread??? thanks...
Here ya go....and fixing my original post!!

Link: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=54
ZZcamaro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2009, 11:43 PM   #31
H3LLJumper
 
H3LLJumper's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS VIN#11184
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Irvine, California
Posts: 580
Legal in Virginia? :[
H3LLJumper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2009, 11:46 PM   #32
FriedCherry
 
Drives: 2010 2SS/RS IOM/IO Camaro
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Palm Bay, FL
Posts: 67
I am sure these are stupid questions but I am new at this.

1) Any sound clip or video with audio to hear what these sound like?
2) Will they work on the automatic (L99?)?
FriedCherry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2009, 11:57 PM   #33
H3LLJumper
 
H3LLJumper's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS VIN#11184
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Irvine, California
Posts: 580
Quote:
Originally Posted by FriedCherry View Post
I am sure these are stupid questions but I am new at this.

1) Any sound clip or video with audio to hear what these sound like?
2) Will they work on the automatic (L99?)?
H3LLJumper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2009, 01:06 AM   #34
ssrsheaven
 
ssrsheaven's Avatar
 
Drives: 92 firebird,2010 camaro
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Indianapolis,In
Posts: 361
Cant wait to recieve mine comming soon
ssrsheaven is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2009, 01:30 AM   #35
davidj
 
davidj's Avatar
 
Drives: .
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Ventura, Ca
Posts: 327
Are those CAT's inbetween the O2 bungs? They seem very small if so.

__________________
davidj is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2009, 01:39 AM   #36
LS3SSRS

 
LS3SSRS's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 IBM SS/RS
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Posts: 808
Quote:
Originally Posted by davidj View Post
Are those CAT's inbetween the O2 bungs? They seem very small if so.

high flow cats i think...
__________________
2SS/RS, 6spd manual, IBM w/black leather
Blacked out tail/signal lights, 5% rear tint, 20% sides, Dynomax Bullet exhaust, Barton short throw shifter, Clear Image offroad downpipes
LS3SSRS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2009, 06:46 AM   #37
Edrock

 
Edrock's Avatar
 
Drives: '10 Camaro 2SS LS3
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Jamestown, NC
Posts: 964
From what I understand, it is illegal to mess with the CATS, i.e., can't move them. I don't see how this would not be considered moving the CATS, therefore, fail inspection if the inspector takes the time to visually examine the underside.
__________________
DT Shorties, Solo hi-flow Cats, X-pipe, resonator delete, Flowmaster Super-44s, VMAX TB, Stronger MAF, C.A.I. Intake with race scoop, and JRE Tune!
WOT is my happy place!!
Edrock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2009, 07:08 AM   #38
tpiselli
 
Drives: 83SC,86SC,86IROC,02Z28
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Maurertown, VA
Posts: 2
Most if not all long tube headers are considered "off road" and will never have a CARB #. Take a look at the recent edition of GMHTP and Chris Werner's article on header upgrades to his 4th gen SS. He explains that the length of the tubes, which moves the cats back, causes them to fail cold-start emissions since the cats take too long to heat up. If you live in an area, oh say like the Shenandoah Valley of Virgina, where there are no emmisions tests then this is not an issue.
Regardless, these look like a very nice setup with some nice power gains.
tpiselli is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2009, 07:58 AM   #39
Andro
NOICE!!! ™
 
Andro's Avatar
 
Drives: Force Fed 427
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: GOT BOOST?
Posts: 5,216
__________________
Andro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2009, 08:13 AM   #40
SAUCE
 
SAUCE's Avatar
 
Drives: 2002 Camaro SS BLKonBLK
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: KC,MO
Posts: 202
WOW!!!! more increase than what I expected!!! I was planning on getting these anyway but this just sealed the deal. Im sure the price is going to be up there but I think it will be well worth it. Great Work!!!! I cant wait!! The only reason Im buying aftermarket exhaust is for the sound!
__________________


2SS RS
CGM
black panel
DT spoiler

Right off the bat:
CAI
FAST LSXr Intake
LT's
SLP loudmouth
SAUCE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2009, 08:26 AM   #41
voyager77
 
voyager77's Avatar
 
Drives: 2000 T/A
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: CT
Posts: 14
Install

any comment on how hard they are to install? DIY?
voyager77 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2009, 08:33 AM   #42
SicSix6
The Demon Photographer
 
SicSix6's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 1SS IOM Camaro
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Bristow, VA
Posts: 758
Quote:
Originally Posted by Edrock View Post
From what I understand, it is illegal to mess with the CATS, i.e., can't move them. I don't see how this would not be considered moving the CATS, therefore, fail inspection if the inspector takes the time to visually examine the underside.
Then do some shopping around.. Your average mom and pop garages are more up tight than most dealerships. you can go to places like Pohanka Chevrolet, and they will do the emissions test with the standard process. If it passes, it passes. If it fails, it is because something needs fixed or replaced.
__________________

1SS IOM LS3, GM 4-pack guages, SLP SS Front Emblem, Roto-Fab CAI, Solo Performance Mach X Exhaust, Barton Industries Short Throw Shifter
SicSix6 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2009, 08:34 AM   #43
SicSix6
The Demon Photographer
 
SicSix6's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 1SS IOM Camaro
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Bristow, VA
Posts: 758
Quote:
Originally Posted by voyager77 View Post
any comment on how hard they are to install? DIY?
It takes me 7 hours to install long tubes on a 93-2002 F-body. It looks like the clearances on these cars is better. So it should be easier.
__________________

1SS IOM LS3, GM 4-pack guages, SLP SS Front Emblem, Roto-Fab CAI, Solo Performance Mach X Exhaust, Barton Industries Short Throw Shifter
SicSix6 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2009, 08:40 AM   #44
SicSix6
The Demon Photographer
 
SicSix6's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 1SS IOM Camaro
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Bristow, VA
Posts: 758
Please PM me prices for emissions legal system with Cat's and all O2 provisions. Thank you.
__________________

1SS IOM LS3, GM 4-pack guages, SLP SS Front Emblem, Roto-Fab CAI, Solo Performance Mach X Exhaust, Barton Industries Short Throw Shifter
SicSix6 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2009, 08:47 AM   #45
JDBeck23

 
Drives: 2010 Camaro, 2SS/RS
Join Date: May 2009
Location: King George, Va
Posts: 877
Looks like unbolt and rebolt. From what some have said, there's a ton of room engine bay on the new camaro's. Which is a blessing for long tube header installs. If you have floor jacks and a wratchet set, you should be good to go.
__________________

2010 2SS/RS CGM
American Racing Headers, Magnaflow axle back, Roto-Fab CAI, Audio Integrations Sub box, Alpine Type R 10, Alpine MRP-500 amp, Pro Clips iPhone Mount
JDBeck23 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2009, 08:51 AM   #46
JDBeck23

 
Drives: 2010 Camaro, 2SS/RS
Join Date: May 2009
Location: King George, Va
Posts: 877
Quote:
Originally Posted by H3LLJumper View Post
Legal in Virginia? :[
Im sure we'll be fine. If some jerk at the inspection station is so concerned about your exhaust that he's gonna look under the car, you have a bulge just passed the headers... that means you have cats.. and you're fine.

It's not like they have pictures of the stock exhaust system to compare yours to. You can tell them that they are the factory cats cut from the old exhaust and welded into the new one. They cant prove it otherwise.

Now if your county has the sniffer, I hope you pass the sniffer. But if it makes you feel any better, I had a 2001 Cobra with Bassani catted x pipe and bassani catback and it passed CA emissions with flying colors. We should be fine on the camaro in Va.
__________________

2010 2SS/RS CGM
American Racing Headers, Magnaflow axle back, Roto-Fab CAI, Audio Integrations Sub box, Alpine Type R 10, Alpine MRP-500 amp, Pro Clips iPhone Mount
JDBeck23 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2009, 09:21 AM   #47
Kyle2k
LVL 50 Troll Stomper
 
Kyle2k's Avatar
 
Drives: 2010 Camaro
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Grand Forks, ND
Posts: 3,248
Quote:
Originally Posted by markssylver View Post
i talked to someone at arh the other day and they said with their headers and x pipe setup there was really no need for aftermarket mufflers as the stock ones were pretty much free flowing and the only reason to go after market would be to make your car LOUD

Or for removing like 40lbs of useless weight and the terrible underhang.
__________________
Kyle2k is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2009, 10:08 AM   #48
radz28
Petro-sexual
 
radz28's Avatar
 
Drives: Ultra-Grin
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Crapramento, Crapifornia
Posts: 13,038
AWESOME GAINS! To the OP's post earlier - where the pipes neck down to about 2.5'-inches is the merge collectors ARH use. QTP is the only other major company I know of that use these collectors standard. These promote scavanging of the exhaust by keeping the velocity of the gases as high as possible. Kooks has something similar on many of their LTs, but they're not quite as good, from the looks of them (they have true high velocity merge collectors for an additional cost though for some models, last I checked). Anyhoo, these are great gains! I didn't really think they'd be this high, but considering the numbers - WOW! Has ARH mentioned if they are going to offer additional sizes and stepped primaries for the 5th Gen too?
__________________
"...What IS true: We anticipated that this would happen - we are never finished - and yes, Ford DOES deserve to win now and then. To think that GM can come out with a car to make ford throw in the towel is simply foolhardy..." - fbodfather
radz28 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2009, 11:29 AM   #49
SSINSTR
Michelin Man Assassin
 
SSINSTR's Avatar
 
Drives: '10 IBM 2SS/RS LS3
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: The Lone Star State
Posts: 213
So is it OK to run long tubes w/o a tune? I know it would benefit from a tune but it was my understanding that to compensate for the better breathing a tune was necessary with LT's. Oh and great looking headers, a set just might be in my future
__________________

Delivered: 6/20/09
SSINSTR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2009, 12:00 PM   #50
bballr4567
 
Drives: 2006 GTO
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Evansville, IN
Posts: 718
If you spend 1k plus on LTs you might as well put down the 300-400 to get a tune and the extra 20 HP.
bballr4567 is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Camaro Product Manager - interview Moose 5th Gen Camaro SS LS LT General Discussions 11 04-04-2012 06:10 PM
GM memo to dealers Moose 5th Gen Camaro SS LS LT General Discussions 41 02-04-2010 07:33 PM
Official Camaro Convertible CONCEPT Press Release Tran Camaro Convertible Forum 12 11-18-2009 07:05 PM
Pedders partnering with GM Racing on Camaro suspension Info@PeddersUSA.com Wheels and Tires Talk Sponsored by The Tire Rack 6 09-30-2008 12:14 PM
Camaro (concept) Press Release!! Pencil.Fight 5th Gen Camaro SS LS LT General Discussions 4 07-21-2008 03:33 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:32 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.