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Old 08-22-2012, 12:56 PM   #1
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Are these Taillights legal in Texas?

If someone could give me a straight up answer as too how and why they are legal or illegal it would be very helpful.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2010-CAMARO-...#ht_4417wt_952
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Old 08-22-2012, 01:25 PM   #2
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This item is produced for off-road or show purpose only. This item is not suitable for regular driving. User must follow the direction given and any misuse of this product is at his/her own risk. The Manufacturer, Distributor, and retailer will not be held responsible for using this item other than specified above.

i found this at the bottom of the attached link. they guy selling them knows they are more than likely not DOT approved.

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Old 08-22-2012, 01:30 PM   #3
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Lupe beat me to it

But, it mostly depends on your local law enforcement whether you'll get pulled over for them. Some jurisdictions don't care. Others will pull you over for the most miniscule of infractions. Discretion is advised.
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Probably cause they dont have a reflector.
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Old 08-22-2012, 01:39 PM   #5
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***ATTENTION: DISCLAIMER!!***
This item is produced for off-road or show purpose only. This item is not suitable for regular driving. User must follow the direction given and any misuse of this product is at his/her own risk. The Manufacturer, Distributor, and retailer will not be held responsible for using this item other than specified above.

i found this at the bottom of the attached link. they guy selling them knows they are more than likely not DOT approved.

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I did not see that. Thanks lupe
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Old 08-22-2012, 01:40 PM   #6
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Those are pretty awesome! I have really dark tint on my factory lights and haven't been bothered in Cali *knock on wood* I may look into picking up a set of these.

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Old 08-22-2012, 01:41 PM   #7
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I did find these which say they are DOT approved and SAE approved so im guessing they are street legal?

http://www.carid.com/2012-chevy-cama...ts-268208.html
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Old 08-22-2012, 01:43 PM   #8
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I have the blackouts on my vette but rock LED's and they really light up when applied.
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Old 08-22-2012, 01:54 PM   #9
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I did find these which say they are DOT approved and SAE approved so im guessing they are street legal?

http://www.carid.com/2012-chevy-cama...ts-268208.html
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•Superior quality and safety - These lights are thoroughly tested to meet federal and international standards. Being DOT and SAE approved, they meet FMVSS-108 regulations and are >>>>>>>completely street legal<<<<<<<
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Old 08-22-2012, 02:28 PM   #10
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Yea but you know where I live it is Smith County... If they try anything with these lights im buying I will be giving them hell.
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Old 08-22-2012, 02:51 PM   #11
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Those are pretty awesome! I have really dark tint on my factory lights and haven't been bothered in Cali *knock on wood* I may look into picking up a set of these.

I'd certainly look into picking a set of those too................

the smoked lights aint bad either.
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Old 08-22-2012, 03:06 PM   #12
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Yea but you know where I live it is Smith County... If they try anything with these lights im buying I will be giving them hell.
Order the lights. They'll probably come in a box that will say DOT and SAE approved. Keep that box in your vehicle.

If you get pulled over specifically because of the lights, show the nice officer the box.

You could also keep a copy of the Texas Transportation Code with you. Specifically, Chapter 547, Subchapter E, Section 547.322d which states:

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A taillamp shall emit a red light plainly visible at a distance of 1,000 feet from the rear of the vehicle.
This is specifically for "taillamps," which is the normal running light condition of your brake lights when you're NOT applying the brakes. When you are applying the brakes, they then become "stoplamps" and are subject to the next section of the code (e) which states:

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(1) visible in normal sunlight at a distance of at least 300 feet from the rear of the vehicle; and
(2) displayed when the vehicle service brake is applied.
Other than that, I don't know what to tell you.
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Old 08-22-2012, 03:27 PM   #13
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Order the lights. They'll probably come in a box that will say DOT and SAE approved. Keep that box in your vehicle.

If you get pulled over specifically because of the lights, show the nice officer the box.

You could also keep a copy of the Texas Transportation Code with you. Specifically, Chapter 547, Subchapter E, Section 547.322d which states:



This is specifically for "taillamps," which is the normal running light condition of your brake lights when you're NOT applying the brakes. When you are applying the brakes, they then become "stoplamps" and are subject to the next section of the code (e) which states:



Other than that, I don't know what to tell you.
Thanks man will do.
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Old 08-22-2012, 08:22 PM   #14
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Probably cause they dont have a reflector.
My guess too.
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Old 08-22-2012, 11:17 PM   #15
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I'll just give you the admin password to his Coban unit so he can't record you, and the password for his Autocite ticket book so he can't cite you

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last i recall alot of aftermarket lighting got pulled and had to go through all the DOT regulations. so if this guy is advertising as off road use only it's probably not DOT approved.

given that though, I don't think you'd get pulled over for that though
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Old 08-23-2012, 09:07 PM   #18
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The lens must be red, but "red" is not defined. Also, in order for tail lamps to pass inspection, they must be red. That rule is often looked over and up to the inspection specialist to either pass or fail the vehicle.
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I'm sorry to say they are not legal. My profession is DOT compliance in the state of Texas, so I speak with first hand knowledge (both professionally and personally). However, I want to note that it then becomes a matter of enforcement. It's a matter of revenue, areas in need of revenue use these types of compliance issues to raise revenue for their districts. I wish you luck if you choose to purchase them and run with them on public roads. That being said, they look really cool!
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Thanks man will do.
It would be illegal because of the lack of reflector, not the light emmission. But, many cops can't figure out why tinted taillights are illegal from my experiences, so I would figure you should be fine
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Old 08-24-2012, 10:35 PM   #21
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It would be illegal because of the lack of reflector, not the light emmission. But, many cops can't figure out why tinted taillights are illegal from my experiences, so I would figure you should be fine
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Old 08-25-2012, 09:36 AM   #22
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I'll just give you the admin password to his Coban unit so he can't record you, and the password for his Autocite ticket book so he can't cite you

I've got your back, lol!
Sounds like we would get in trouble for this.

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I'm sorry to say they are not legal. My profession is DOT compliance in the state of Texas, so I speak with first hand knowledge (both professionally and personally). However, I want to note that it then becomes a matter of enforcement. It's a matter of revenue, areas in need of revenue use these types of compliance issues to raise revenue for their districts. I wish you luck if you choose to purchase them and run with them on public roads. That being said, they look really cool!
Yes they do but illegal :(

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It would be illegal because of the lack of reflector, not the light emmission. But, many cops can't figure out why tinted taillights are illegal from my experiences, so I would figure you should be fine
Whenever I got pulled over for my vinyl tinted tail lights the cop couldnt tell my why they are illegal he just said blackouts on tail lights are illegal. After that I did some searching around and some friends said they needed to reflect off of light.
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