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Old 05-29-2009, 11:44 AM   #120
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did you even look at the picture?

the window blackout only comes down the top 1/3rd of the mirror and is above my LOS....
the bottom 2/3rds of the mirror is near useless and in the way.

the onstar buttons alone take up 1" at the bottom of the mirror... GM could have easily put them on the sides of the mirror (or on the console for that matter) if they REALLY addressed the "mirror issue."
may i ask how tall are you .not to be funny just wondering .
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Old 05-29-2009, 11:47 AM   #121
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I'm not sure if this is possible with the way the mirror is attached to the arm but...can you bend the mirror down, spin it around on the arm (might need to disconnect/reconnect the wires), and push it back up so the Onstar buttons on now at the top instead?

Seems to me that arm attachment is high-mounted on the back of the mirror and you could gain room if the mirror could be flipped over and make the arm low-mounted instead.

I think we both forgot about that now that he's removed the plastic wire cover. It was dismissed before because the top was already hitting that. Good catch!

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Can people who own other late model GM cars measure their onstar mirrors?? Impala, Monte Carlo, Saturn Ion, Saturn Aura... These are the common ones on ebay right now.

There's a ton of Onstar mirrors on Ebay right now. Seems like we could find a suitable OEM replacement.


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DANG! i took that picture and i didnt notice that! THANKS!
i "looked" at flipping it (from the front) but didnt try it cause from the front i didnt think it would help.

Thanks! i WILL try it.
Let us know how it goes! Looking forward to more iPwn picts

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top pic is from 1SS bottom is from 2SS
they are shown in the other 2 threads i listed.

youve got good ideas.
Well, it doesn't help you any, but I guess I'm glad I got the 1SS mirror! I'm sure you could find someone with a 1SS that does not have the problem (I'd guess someone shorter than us, or likes driving laying down ) that would be happy to trade you to gain auto dim.
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Old 05-29-2009, 11:51 AM   #122
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why 2 different mirrors though that doesnt make sense to me
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Old 05-29-2009, 11:55 AM   #123
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i am six foot one havent driven the new camaro yet but sat in one yesterday and that stood out like a big problem to me.
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Old 05-29-2009, 11:55 AM   #124
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why 2 different mirrors though that doesnt make sense to me
Auto-dimming...
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Old 05-29-2009, 12:09 PM   #125
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Hmmmm... I unfortunately don't have any pictures of the mirror of the 2LT I test drove, but I don't recall it being a problem for me and I'm 6' tall. I can't imagine that it didn't have the auto-dimming mirror, but maybe it did, since it seemed like it might have been a bit less than production, with its cloth door panels. Definitely had the leather and C&C package, though...

Maybe if I see another on a lot at some point, I'll check it out again.
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Old 05-29-2009, 12:10 PM   #126
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why would i use side view mirrors at a STOP sign?
just in case there is a camaro next to you and he dont see you because of his rear view mirror
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Old 05-29-2009, 12:18 PM   #127
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shit who needs auto dimming give me a mirror so i can see out the front window
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Old 05-29-2009, 12:48 PM   #128
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just in case there is a camaro next to you and he dont see you because of his rear view mirror
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Old 05-29-2009, 01:01 PM   #129
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just in case there is a camaro next to you and he dont see you because of his rear view mirror
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Windshield=10" vertical
mirror= 3 7/8" (that's almost 4") vertical
that means that the mirror is 38.75% the size of the vertical windshield...
it sure seems like the ratio could be better... just sayin....

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Old 05-29-2009, 01:03 PM   #130
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I'm glad I got the 1SS now..
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Old 05-29-2009, 01:07 PM   #131
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UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE

UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE

rolnslo, THANKS! i owe you one

Thanks so much for the re-suggestion to flip the mirror… when I had looked at it before it appeared to be a no gain but after removing the plastic wiring cover AND unhooking the wire connector from the windshield and moving it to one side, I was able to flip the mirror and tuck the onstar buttons up behind the headliner!
I just could not see the forest for the mirror (trees). I started this thread in hopes of help and I got it! (after several bruises) Thanks!

I'm estimating that this gives another inch of visibility! (which is a big percentage)
I will have pix posted tonight (need a flash).
I would still like to see a thinner mirror but this is a great improvement while I hunt!
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that means that the mirror is 38.75% the size of the vertical windshield...
it sure seems like the ratio could be better... just sayin....

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Old 05-29-2009, 01:28 PM   #132
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I will go ahead and tell you that the Monte Carlo Onstar mirror is even bigger than the camaro one. Not sure about the others But atleast the 2004 models with auto dimming are huge. As a matter of fact there is a common issue that the weight of the mirror is so much that it actually causes the glue bond on the metal anchor to break from the windshield. This has happend to me 4 times. But that was fixed with an industrial epoxytype junk.

My wife ran off the road once becuase the thing fell down and flung towards her face. They have always been a somewhat of an issue but nothing is ever done about it. They tweak it some on newwer models but that is about it.

I personnally would get rid of it all together and install a back up camera and monitor. But then again I wont be getting one anytime soon so it may be altered when I purchase. Also perhaps one more suggestion for you though.

Since there is blanks in that control panel for the non sun roof people. You can re wire them to hold the onstar buttons and go out and purchase an old school thin mirror. I think this would be the cheapest route to take.
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Old 05-29-2009, 01:38 PM   #133
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UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE

rolnslo, THANKS! i owe you one

Thanks so much for the re-suggestion to flip the mirror… when I had looked at it before it appeared to be a no gain but after removing the plastic wiring cover AND unhooking the wire connector from the windshield and moving it to one side, I was able to flip the mirror and tuck the onstar buttons up behind the headliner!
I just could not see the forest for the mirror (trees). I started this thread in hopes of help and I got it! (after several bruises) Thanks!

I'm estimating that this gives another inch of visibility! (which is a big percentage)
I will have pix posted tonight (need a flash).
I would still like to see a thinner mirror but this is a great improvement while I hunt!

happy to hear you may have found a solution. I couldn't quite follow, so you couldn't see cars on your right if you were at a stop?

What guy wouldn't be happy with another inch.
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Can the blackened out part of the window also be removed?
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Can the blackened out part of the window also be removed?

I don't THINK so but with a razor who knows?
It is not an issue for me personally but I will look closer for you.
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Windshield=10" vertical
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that means that the mirror is 38.75% the size of the vertical windshield...
it sure seems like the ratio could be better... just sayin....

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Old 05-29-2009, 02:35 PM   #136
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happy to hear you may have found a solution. I couldn't quite follow, so you couldn't see cars on your right if you were at a stop?

What guy wouldn't be happy with another inch.

Haha!
Exactly! In the pic I posted there was an s10 behind the mirror that you can't see.
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Windshield=10" vertical
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that means that the mirror is 38.75% the size of the vertical windshield...
it sure seems like the ratio could be better... just sayin....

our collective MIRROR patch:
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