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Old 05-29-2009, 09:48 AM   #113
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Can people who own other late model GM cars measure their onstar mirrors?? Impala, Monte Carlo, Saturn Ion, Saturn Aura... These are the common ones on ebay right now.

There's a ton of Onstar mirrors on Ebay right now. Seems like we could find a suitable OEM replacement.
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Old 05-29-2009, 10:05 AM   #114
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I'm not sure if this is possible with the way the mirror is attached to the arm but...can you bend the mirror down, spin it around on the arm (might need to disconnect/reconnect the wires), and push it back up so the Onstar buttons on now at the top instead?

Seems to me that arm attachment is high-mounted on the back of the mirror and you could gain room if the mirror could be flipped over and make the arm low-mounted instead.


DANG! i took that picture and i didnt notice that! THANKS!
i "looked" at flipping it (from the front) but didnt try it cause from the front i didnt think it would help.

Thanks! i WILL try it.
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Windshield=10" vertical
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that means that the mirror is 38.75% the size of the vertical windshield...
it sure seems like the ratio could be better... just sayin....

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Old 05-29-2009, 10:06 AM   #115
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That mirror is different! Where are these pics from??

I honestly think the "best" solution is to go to a chevy dealer and walk around the lot until you find a car with a much smaller onstar mirror. If that doesnt work, call GM, get a tech on the phone and tell him you want a smaller onstar mirror, and you want specs for the last couple years... Make GM work to fix the problem, they built the car!

While some people arent having the problem, there are enough that are brining it up that are... so it's an issue that GM should address. The back window viewing area (mind you I only sat in a camaro for a few minutes) was small enough that you dont need that monstorous mirror!

There are open "blanks" in the overhead console of non sunroof guys, maybe they can be used to hold the onstar buttons and then you can buy the smallest but useful size mirror you could find. That might be the easiest solution... hmmmmm if my camaro was already here, I could start looking into that... I'd just need a wiring diagram for the onstar mirror and overhead console. Hurry up with the service manual GM!

top pic is from 1SS bottom is from 2SS
they are shown in the other 2 threads i listed.

youve got good ideas.
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Windshield=10" vertical
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that means that the mirror is 38.75% the size of the vertical windshield...
it sure seems like the ratio could be better... just sayin....

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Old 05-29-2009, 10:08 AM   #116
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Can people who own other late model GM cars measure their onstar mirrors?? Impala, Monte Carlo, Saturn Ion, Saturn Aura... These are the common ones on ebay right now.

There's a ton of Onstar mirrors on Ebay right now. Seems like we could find a suitable OEM replacement.
AMEN!

i am hoping to find out at the dealer if nothing else...
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Windshield=10" vertical
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that means that the mirror is 38.75% the size of the vertical windshield...
it sure seems like the ratio could be better... just sayin....

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Old 05-29-2009, 10:10 AM   #117
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did that work as mentioned a couple posts up? if so what exactly did you do. so the mirrors are different from the 1ss to the 2ss?
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Old 05-29-2009, 10:21 AM   #118
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did that work as mentioned a couple posts up? if so what exactly did you do. so the mirrors are different from the 1ss to the 2ss?
i'll let you know after lunch.

1SS and 2SS mirrors appear to be different in at least my and one other members cars.
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Windshield=10" vertical
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that means that the mirror is 38.75% the size of the vertical windshield...
it sure seems like the ratio could be better... just sayin....

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Old 05-29-2009, 10:38 AM   #119
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hmmm making me wonder if we could have our dealers order us a 1ss mirror and have it installed?
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Old 05-29-2009, 10:44 AM   #120
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did you even look at the picture?

the window blackout only comes down the top 1/3rd of the mirror and is above my LOS....
the bottom 2/3rds of the mirror is near useless and in the way.

the onstar buttons alone take up 1" at the bottom of the mirror... GM could have easily put them on the sides of the mirror (or on the console for that matter) if they REALLY addressed the "mirror issue."
may i ask how tall are you .not to be funny just wondering .
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Old 05-29-2009, 10:47 AM   #121
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I'm not sure if this is possible with the way the mirror is attached to the arm but...can you bend the mirror down, spin it around on the arm (might need to disconnect/reconnect the wires), and push it back up so the Onstar buttons on now at the top instead?

Seems to me that arm attachment is high-mounted on the back of the mirror and you could gain room if the mirror could be flipped over and make the arm low-mounted instead.

I think we both forgot about that now that he's removed the plastic wire cover. It was dismissed before because the top was already hitting that. Good catch!

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Can people who own other late model GM cars measure their onstar mirrors?? Impala, Monte Carlo, Saturn Ion, Saturn Aura... These are the common ones on ebay right now.

There's a ton of Onstar mirrors on Ebay right now. Seems like we could find a suitable OEM replacement.


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DANG! i took that picture and i didnt notice that! THANKS!
i "looked" at flipping it (from the front) but didnt try it cause from the front i didnt think it would help.

Thanks! i WILL try it.
Let us know how it goes! Looking forward to more iPwn picts

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top pic is from 1SS bottom is from 2SS
they are shown in the other 2 threads i listed.

youve got good ideas.
Well, it doesn't help you any, but I guess I'm glad I got the 1SS mirror! I'm sure you could find someone with a 1SS that does not have the problem (I'd guess someone shorter than us, or likes driving laying down ) that would be happy to trade you to gain auto dim.
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Old 05-29-2009, 10:51 AM   #122
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why 2 different mirrors though that doesnt make sense to me
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Old 05-29-2009, 10:55 AM   #123
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i am six foot one havent driven the new camaro yet but sat in one yesterday and that stood out like a big problem to me.
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why 2 different mirrors though that doesnt make sense to me
Auto-dimming...
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Old 05-29-2009, 11:09 AM   #125
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Hmmmm... I unfortunately don't have any pictures of the mirror of the 2LT I test drove, but I don't recall it being a problem for me and I'm 6' tall. I can't imagine that it didn't have the auto-dimming mirror, but maybe it did, since it seemed like it might have been a bit less than production, with its cloth door panels. Definitely had the leather and C&C package, though...

Maybe if I see another on a lot at some point, I'll check it out again.
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why would i use side view mirrors at a STOP sign?
just in case there is a camaro next to you and he dont see you because of his rear view mirror
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