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Old 08-27-2012, 09:42 PM   #1
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Question Recaro/ZL1 brake package for 1LE?

Just wanted to see how many people would be interested in purchasing a package like this. If offered the way I would do it, it would be a package added to the SS and separate from the 1LE pcakage itself but would require ordering 1LE. That way the great value of the 1LE would remain intact but a little extra could be offered to those that want it.
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Hell yeah. I can't understand why it's not.
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Now that would be real awesome.
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Price, price, price-- as always.

For $1999 -- it would be a very popular option for ALL SS Camaros.

For $2999 or more -- not so much.
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Price, price, price-- as always.

For $1999 -- it would be a very popular option for ALL SS Camaros.

For $2999 or more -- not so much.
Agreed. If this package followed the great value of the 1LE $2000 would be a reasonable price. The type of customer that wants the 1LE would definitely add this for the right price.
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Is it possible to put the CTS-V recaros in a Camaro?
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The 2013 Mustang GT offers the Recaros for $1200 according to a guy I met at the track this weekend. His car had 4 piston Brembos in the front. I didn't ask if that was part of that package. I know his car was stock.

The seats were really nice.
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The zl1 brake package is very heavy, so probably wouldnt pay for extra weight. However, the 1le should ve been lighter for the stock brembos.

Recaros, $1500 or less, yes i would ve bought them, and they would be lighter.

Anyhow, I aplaud GM fir making it as cheap as possible, and i wish they wouldve taken more stuff out and make it cheaper. Hood, trunk acoustic Treatment, engine cover, sun visors, tire pump, fog lamps, badges, anf 19" rims would ve been perfect.
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I wouldn't say the ZL1 brake package is "very heavy". Unless I'm mistaken, the front rotors, while larger, only weigh 1lb more than the SS rotor. I can't find the thread with all of the rotor and caliber weights. But a safe assumption would be 2-3lbs more for each front wheel. So 4-6lbs total for a better braking packaging.

In any case, depending on the actual look of the seat (I want them to look and feel good...I'm not just buying a brand name), yes, I would add the package in a heartbeat.
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Is it possible to put the CTS-V recaros in a Camaro?
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The zl1 brake package is very heavy, so probably wouldnt pay for extra weight. However, the 1le should ve been lighter for the stock brembos.

Recaros, $1500 or less, yes i would ve bought them, and they would be lighter.

Anyhow, I aplaud GM fir making it as cheap as possible, and i wish they wouldve taken more stuff out and make it cheaper. Hood, trunk acoustic Treatment, engine cover, sun visors, tire pump, fog lamps, badges, anf 19" rims would ve been perfect.
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I wouldn't say the ZL1 brake package is "very heavy". Unless I'm mistaken, the front rotors, while larger, only weigh 1lb more than the SS rotor. I can't find the thread with all of the rotor and caliber weights. But a safe assumption would be 2-3lbs more for each front wheel. So 4-6lbs total for a better braking packaging.

In any case, depending on the actual look of the seat (I want them to look and feel good...I'm not just buying a brand name), yes, I would add the package in a heartbeat.
SS all iron
ZL1 Iron ring Aluminum Hat

The rotor weights are the same.

The rotors are very different up front. These are dual cast from Brembo with an aluminum hat / center and iron rotor. Even though the new Cadillac rotors are larger and thicker, they weigh the same as the OEM SS Camaro rotors.






The ZL1 two piece setup should be a bit lighter than the CTS-V dou-cast.
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This.

Pedders is committed to being a strong supporting member of the 5th gen community. When we needed a brake upgrade for our Camaro we looked everywhere and came right back to the GM parts bin. It took a while, but we sorted it out and found what we believe to be the most cost effective and perhaps best brake solution for the Camaro. If I ran GM -- and I don't I know what I would do for better Camaro brakes. I would use THE CADILLAC OF BRAKES for the Camaro -- CTS-V BRAKES.



These are the same brakes that set a record on the Ring with John Heinricy behind the wheel of s CTS-V as the fastest production sedan to run the ring.



The CTS-V is a bit heavier than the Camaro making the setup PERFECT. This is a bolt on project that requires only the front dust shield be trimmed to fit the over-sized six piston front caliper. Everything is performance / track ready to go. The pads are perfect out of the box. They are also Cadillac quiet. The front calipers do require different bolts. All the parts are supposed to be available front the GM parts bin, but we did have some delays in collecting everything we needed. Arthur at Witt Buick Pedders did a great job of getting all the bits pulled together for me.




This is a HUGE upgrade for the Camaro. Take a close look at the calipers and pads. The superior clamping from six pistons combined with a much larger pad and rotor work to PERFECTION with the master cylinder and computer.







The rotors are very different up front. These are dual cast from Brembo with an aluminum hat / center and iron rotor. Even though the new Cadillac rotors are larger and thicker, they weigh the same as the OEM SS Camaro rotors.






Trimming the front dust shield was straight forward. How can any modification (unless it is Pedders made to fit just like the OEM bits we replace) be complete without sparks from a cutting wheel?





The brake upgrade is 100% OEM CTS-V with the exception of Pedders Camaro Brake Lines. You can see our brake lines fit and mount just like OEM. Why is Pedders doing brake lines for the 2010 Camaro? Great question. When we built our Camaro we couldn't find them in the aftermarket so we took matters into our own hands. PDUSACAM2800 https://secure.merlinsoftware.com.au...0&Featured=Yes




The rear Cadillac CTS-V caliper is the same as the Camaro SS rear caliper. The only difference is color. We did try to rear CTS-V and found the hat offset is a bit different, but the OEM Camaro SS rotor is a perfect match.



Here they are, THE Cadillac of Brakes of the 2010 Camaro.





Rear Before



Rear After



Front Before



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When you do a conversion like this it is critical that the entire brake system be bled including the ABD computer. We connected the new USB based GM scan tool and could not find a full bleed program. We connected a Tech I scan tool, selected 2010 Corvette and found a functional solution. With everything completed we did on more safety check and went out for a road test. Working with Witt Buick Pedders means we have access to everything we need including a 'private' area to bed the brakes. 60 to 20, 80 to 20 and 100 to 20 and the brakes are bedded.

How do they feel -- jut like a Cadillac CTS-V. Are they better than the SS brakes -- OH YEAH!!! Now the tough question, how do you get a set. We are posting this for the benefit of the Camaro community. Witt Buick Pedders put in a tremendous amount of effort to secure all the bits and do the install. Little things like finding the right way to bleed the brakes take a lot of time. The rear rotors from the CTS-V don't fit and son on. They have earned the right to at least have the opportunity to make a parts sale.

Keeping the community in mind, you already know that a complete set of CTS-V brakes will fit and what you need to order short of the parts list. Your creative and can source that on the Internet. If you would like to order a turn key kit you can call Bruce Raymond at Raymond's Performance. He powder coats the CTS-V calipers to match the SS rears and machines slots into the rotors for increased performance.

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I agree...I've been watching that brake swap thread for awhile.
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This.

Pedders is committed to being a strong supporting member of the 5th gen community. When we needed a brake upgrade for our Camaro we looked everywhere and came right back to the GM parts bin. It took a while, but we sorted it out and found what we believe to be the most cost effective and perhaps best brake solution for the Camaro. If I ran GM -- and I don't I know what I would do for better Camaro brakes. I would use THE CADILLAC OF BRAKES for the Camaro -- CTS-V BRAKES.



These are the same brakes that set a record on the Ring with John Heinricy behind the wheel of s CTS-V as the fastest production sedan to run the ring.



The CTS-V is a bit heavier than the Camaro making the setup PERFECT. This is a bolt on project that requires only the front dust shield be trimmed to fit the over-sized six piston front caliper. Everything is performance / track ready to go. The pads are perfect out of the box. They are also Cadillac quiet. The front calipers do require different bolts. All the parts are supposed to be available front the GM parts bin, but we did have some delays in collecting everything we needed. Arthur at Witt Buick Pedders did a great job of getting all the bits pulled together for me.




This is a HUGE upgrade for the Camaro. Take a close look at the calipers and pads. The superior clamping from six pistons combined with a much larger pad and rotor work to PERFECTION with the master cylinder and computer.







The rotors are very different up front. These are dual cast from Brembo with an aluminum hat / center and iron rotor. Even though the new Cadillac rotors are larger and thicker, they weigh the same as the OEM SS Camaro rotors.






Trimming the front dust shield was straight forward. How can any modification (unless it is Pedders made to fit just like the OEM bits we replace) be complete without sparks from a cutting wheel?





The brake upgrade is 100% OEM CTS-V with the exception of Pedders Camaro Brake Lines. You can see our brake lines fit and mount just like OEM. Why is Pedders doing brake lines for the 2010 Camaro? Great question. When we built our Camaro we couldn't find them in the aftermarket so we took matters into our own hands. PDUSACAM2800 https://secure.merlinsoftware.com.au...0&Featured=Yes




The rear Cadillac CTS-V caliper is the same as the Camaro SS rear caliper. The only difference is color. We did try to rear CTS-V and found the hat offset is a bit different, but the OEM Camaro SS rotor is a perfect match.



Here they are, THE Cadillac of Brakes of the 2010 Camaro.





Rear Before



Rear After



Front Before



Front After






When you do a conversion like this it is critical that the entire brake system be bled including the ABD computer. We connected the new USB based GM scan tool and could not find a full bleed program. We connected a Tech I scan tool, selected 2010 Corvette and found a functional solution. With everything completed we did on more safety check and went out for a road test. Working with Witt Buick Pedders means we have access to everything we need including a 'private' area to bed the brakes. 60 to 20, 80 to 20 and 100 to 20 and the brakes are bedded.

How do they feel -- jut like a Cadillac CTS-V. Are they better than the SS brakes -- OH YEAH!!! Now the tough question, how do you get a set. We are posting this for the benefit of the Camaro community. Witt Buick Pedders put in a tremendous amount of effort to secure all the bits and do the install. Little things like finding the right way to bleed the brakes take a lot of time. The rear rotors from the CTS-V don't fit and son on. They have earned the right to at least have the opportunity to make a parts sale.

Keeping the community in mind, you already know that a complete set of CTS-V brakes will fit and what you need to order short of the parts list. Your creative and can source that on the Internet. If you would like to order a turn key kit you can call Bruce Raymond at Raymond's Performance. He powder coats the CTS-V calipers to match the SS rears and machines slots into the rotors for increased performance.

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No I meant what is involved with putting the CTS-V recaro seats into our Camaros? Is it a direct swap or does it require a lot of custom fabrication?


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No I meant what is involved with putting the CTS-V recaro seats into our Camaros? Is it a direct swap or does it require a lot of custom fabrication?


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Why cts.v brakes when the zl1brakes drop right in too plus two piece rotors up front and black color vs silver.

As far as recaros, there so many aftermarket seat options, ones that are comfy too, that anyone willing to spend serious cash can make them work as well.
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And which CTS-V seats are you referring to? There is a standard leather seat, and a leather Recaro version.
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