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Old 10-02-2012, 10:56 AM   #1
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Question Dealer trying to hose me?

I took my car in because the tranny is macking some noises from time to time. The just called me back and said that my trans pan is dented and that could be restricting flow and causing the noises and slipping I feel from time to time. Does this sound like bs?? The worse part is its $300 for a new pan filter and fluids...NOt sure what to do.

I want it fixed because im putting lt`s and a tune on this weekend so i wil not have a warranty...
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Old 10-02-2012, 10:57 AM   #2
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I took my car in because the tranny is macking some noises from time to time. The just called me back and said that my trans pan is dented and that could be restricting flow and causing the noises and slipping I feel from time to time. Does this sound like bs?? The worse part is its $300 for a new pan filter and fluids...NOt sure what to do.

I want it fixed because im putting lt`s and a tune on this weekend so i wil not have a warranty...
Shouldn't this be covered under warranty and not cost you out of pocket, or am I missing something?
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Old 10-02-2012, 11:02 AM   #3
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Shouldn't this be covered under warranty and not cost you out of pocket, or am I missing something?

Your missing something ... He said the pan was dented, it does not come from the factory that way. Physical damage by the owner is not covered under warranty.
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Old 10-02-2012, 11:03 AM   #4
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If it's dented, that would indicate that you hit something and it wouldn't be a factory defect hence not covered by warranty. Has it done this since you bought the car or did you hit the median somewhere along the line?
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Old 10-02-2012, 11:04 AM   #5
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Your missing something ... He said the pan was dented, it does not come from the factory that way. Physical damage by the owner is not covered under warranty.
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If it's dented, that would indicate that you hit something and it wouldn't be a factory defect hence not covered by warranty. Has it done this since you bought the car or did you hit the median somewhere along the line?

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Old 10-02-2012, 11:26 AM   #6
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Your missing something ... He said the pan was dented, it does not come from the factory that way. Physical damage by the owner is not covered under warranty.
I was indeed missing something. Thank you.

I'd personally pay and get it fixed...I mean, it's not too big of a bill at least. Still sucks though.
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Old 10-02-2012, 11:32 AM   #7
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Old 10-02-2012, 11:37 AM   #8
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Ask to see the pan. If it is dented it is indeed your fault.
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Old 10-02-2012, 12:20 PM   #9
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I know i obviouslt dented the pan. IM askin if that could cause the tranny to act up???
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Old 10-02-2012, 12:21 PM   #10
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Which reminds me of a story.... four days ago, I was cruising along Hwy 18, a mountain road in Southern California. I saw a rock about the size of a basketball in the right lane. Those of us who live on the mountain and are able- bodied know that, with only rare exception, we've got an obligation to stop and move hazards like this out of the road.

Having done this many times, I knew (1) Don't stop right next to the rock, because more rocks may come from the same place IT came from, and (2) Don't even park within about 200 - 300 feet of it, because if SOMEBODY hits it before I can get out of the car, accident debris could hit my car.

Sho nuff... I got out, walked back to where the rock was... but there was a car coming, in that lane. I saw a semi- comatose old man, mouth open (and I'm pretty sure he was drooling) drive into that rock at 65 MPH.

It was an awesome spectacle. The impact was loud, smoke, rock fragments, automotive debris scattered everywhere... looked almost like an explosion from "CHiPs!" Within a few feet beyond the impact zone, a two- foot wide oil slick began, and followed the car down the road... yep, the car continued.

(Glad that I parked a distance away... and next time, it'll be even further... rocks the size of softballs skittered past the Camaro, on both sides, but never hit it... whew.)

If the guy had a lick of sense, he would have stopped. But... he kept driving. I spent a minute removing the larger remaining fragments from the road (and noted how slippery his oil spill was, which led me to notify highway patrol of the hazrd, especially to motorcyclists on the winding road), then followed the oil slick. After about one mile, the oil slick suddenly vanished... I was surprised that it took that long for every drop of oil in his Toyota Avalon to disappear. However, the road split into multiple directions at that point, so I was unable to see where he inevitably broke down...

I did, however, happen to see the car on the back of a tow truck a couple of hours later... by chance, I had an opportunity to talk to the tow truck driver. I asked him what was wrong with the car... he replied: "Stupid old man hit a big rock in the road, ripped his oil pan off... but he kept driving until his engine blew! It's toast!"

If the old geezer had thought to pull over when that catastrophic impact happened (and trust me, it was NOT even remotely subtle!), he would have gotten by with nothing but an oil pan repair. However, he was apparently of the, "If I pretend it didn't happen, then it didn't happen!" school of logic, and now his engine requires replacement, too.

So, not much to do with the current thread, I just boldly took the opportunity to make a remote segue, transform it into a hijack, and long pontification regarding yet another example of why there comes a time when "too elderly" means it's time to hang up the keys...
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Old 10-02-2012, 12:24 PM   #11
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I know i obviouslt dented the pan. IM askin if that could cause the tranny to act up???
Oh, and I have never heard of a dented pan causing trans problems... unless it's REALLY bashed in hard, I don't think there are any moving parts in that proximity. MAYBE it could pinch a hose and restrict fluid movement... but even that is kind of a stretch. I'd recommend a second opinion from another mechanic, perhaps a mechanic whose business doesn't benefit from denying claims...
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So, not much to do with the current thread, I just boldly took the opportunity to make a remote segue, transform it into a hijack, and long pontification regarding yet another example of why there comes a time when "too elderly" means it's time to hang up the keys...
I've known PLENTY of stupid, young drivers as well, so that logic doesn't wash.
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Old 10-02-2012, 12:31 PM   #13
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I know i obviouslt dented the pan. IM askin if that could cause the tranny to act up???
Yes it can, the filter/pickup is at the bottom and those could be restricted by a pan problem. This could be verified by a technician checking trans pressures.

If the pan is pushed in, will need to be taken off and then the trans can be checked out further once the pan is off.

I'd contact your insurance if the estimate is real high, possibly could do a road hazard claim.

When I was a tech, a lot of engine and trans damage became insurance claims once the complete estimate was available. Dented engine or trans pan damage is pretty common from road debris. The repairs can be very expensive,
which is why it may be worth it to go the insurance route.

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Old 10-02-2012, 12:31 PM   #14
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I'd say you gotta pay for the damaged parts, for sure....C'mon, man. You really expect them to overlook that sort of damage and fix the tranny, and put back the damaged parts?....If replacing the pan eliminates the trans acting up, consider yourself lucky.
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A dented pan could easily block or restrict fluid flow. The pickup filter sits quite close to the bottom.
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Old 10-02-2012, 12:36 PM   #16
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The labor is going to be a killer, front suspension and subframe have to come out.
For the TRANSMISSION pan?

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Old 10-02-2012, 12:40 PM   #17
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Great story......


The fluid filter acts as the fluid pick up. If the pan is smashed into the filter it could be stopping flow or could have broken the filter all together. Long term use with the filter restricted or broken will cause complete failure of the tranny over time. Also, there are a number of switches and things in the same area attatched to your valve body that regulate pressure flow for each gear. Remove the pan, inspect the area, change any broken parts, drain and flush, and refill adding a bottle of Lucas Stop Slip for good measure. If it has not been long since it was damaged you shouldn't have any issues with it after this, I hope everything works out for you.


Or you could go a head and up grade the tranny and not have to worry about it again. Its aleady going to cost you $$$$$$$$$$$ so might as well.
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