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Old 08-30-2012, 01:20 PM   #18
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i guess all this hinders on how the car with be driven
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Old 08-30-2012, 01:48 PM   #19
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Your other option to get 1LE levels of handling for your SS would be to look at our 2010+ Camaro Race Pack Stage 3 Total Vehicle System (TVS). This kit includes Sport Coil Springs, Front Sway Bar, Adjustable Rear Sway Bar, Front and Rear Heavy Duty Adjustable End Links, Strut Tower Brace, and Chassis Brace. These parts are designed to compliment each other and give you a matched suspension setup that works right out of the box. And even better, all of this engineering is available for under $2500.



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Old 08-30-2012, 03:29 PM   #20
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Old 08-30-2012, 04:41 PM   #21
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Thanks a lot everybody! If it wasn't for the gears and wheels I think I would lean towards air or pedders, but 1LE sounds like a deal plus its under warranty. does anybody have pictures of an 1LE interior? Is it the same as a zl1? I really do like the interior of the zl1
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Old 08-30-2012, 05:32 PM   #22
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If I was in your position I'd get the 1LE. Then eventually get some coilovers if you can. For me I'm making my own track package car with an SS since I jumped the gun too early and got a new 2010
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Old 08-31-2012, 09:02 PM   #23
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The 1LE is a lot more than suspension.

You get the close ratio mm6, 3.91 gear, extra fuel pickups, stronger axles and hubs, trans cooler, electric steering, shifter, and more. If you add everything up it is impossible to get everything for anywhere close to $3500. I am actually thinking about selling my SS for a 1LE. Look at it this way, with the 1LE you are paying $3,500 for the ZL1 wheels and tires, all the other options are free.
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Old 08-31-2012, 10:05 PM   #24
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Would you have ground clearance issues with the Hotchkis stage 3 race package ?
I am interested in the kit, but I don't want to have ground clearence issue due to bad roads where I live, and I will be running coil overs so the car will be pretty low....
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Old 08-31-2012, 10:13 PM   #25
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That kit is an FE3 kit, not an FE4+
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Old 09-01-2012, 12:18 AM   #26
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I will hopefully be getting a 2013 2SS/RS m6 camaro soon. I personally love the look of airlift on the 5th gen camaros but would really enjoy a car that handles well.

My question would be could a pedderized or bagged SS be able to compete with a 1LE around the track? It would be a daily driver so I would perfer as smooth of a ride as possible but yet be able to take a turn fast without fear of loosing control. What do you think would be the best way to go? I dont know much about suspension but for the money is the 1LE package worth it when you can get air or pedders for around the same cost plus the killer looks?

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Bury it. We ran the PUSA Camaro at Gingerman years ago. Some refer to it as an obscure track. It isn't. It gets a lot of use from Detroit based automobile companies and was the choice of the Camaro TEAM for media hot laps with the 1LE. Since the fall of 2009 there hasn't been a single Camaro to run faster at Gingerman than the PUSA Camaro. Not one. We are running the Pro-Tourcing / OPTIMA Challenge events with the Lingenfelter L/28 and Raymond's Performance Camaro. We were 1 second slower than Lou Gilloti's highly modified ZR1 at Eagles Canyon. We put down the fastest lap of the day at Road America besting a well driven $450,000 Porsche that spent all day chasing the L/28. At Gingerman we we had the fastest AC and and were behind a killer race car like vette on the road course.

A 1LE is a great version of the SS that will be much better Pedderised. You have a money back guarantee on it.
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Old 09-01-2012, 03:11 PM   #27
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That sounds quite exspensive. Now being able to customize the 2013 online it would be roughly the same price for a 1SS/RS/1LE as a 2SS/RS. I would hate to loose the leather and HUD tho , I think overall the 1LE would be a lot smarter choice considering if I really want leather or HUD I could always add later.
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Old 09-01-2012, 03:16 PM   #28
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Flawless operation and control are never expensive. They are PRICELESS. Anyone can make a Vette fast. Beating a modified Vette with a Camaro is a statement. We do it all the time. I haven't spoken to a single Pedders client that had just run their fastest 1/4 mile or passed every car in their HPDE that thought their Pedders parts were expensive. Not one.
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Old 09-02-2012, 01:41 PM   #29
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L/28 vs ZL-1

WOW 1 course run and a whopping 4 seconds better than a ZL-1 Woooooooooooowwwwww,. Now imagine the Nurburging.
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Old 09-02-2012, 02:01 PM   #30
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I just talked to Chase over at Apex, and you can put together a great suspension set up for a lot less money than you may think. For 2k you can have solid subframe bushings, lowering springs, sway bars, diff bushings, trailing arms, and toe rods. The likely hood that the 1LE could out handle a car set up like that is slim to none. Heck, I would buy the SSX parts before the 1LE. The 2SS would be my first choice, I almost bought a 1SS to save some $$, but I'm really glad I didn't. Leather, HUD, and the Gauge pack are sweet. IMO, the 1LE is not as good as a suspenion as you can buy aftermarket.
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Old 09-02-2012, 02:12 PM   #31
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And you're forgetting about the wheel bearings, gears, wheels/tires, revised transmission, etc.

The likelihood you could achieve those same things and benefits aftermarket for that price is slim to none. The 1LE would still outhandle your "package" because of the wheels/tires alone. Obviously it can be improved upon with aftermarket parts but the fundamental package is still a great buy for the true road race enthusiast.
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Old 09-02-2012, 02:20 PM   #32
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The 1LE is a lot more than suspension.

You get the close ratio mm6, 3.91 gear, extra fuel pickups, stronger axles and hubs, trans cooler, electric steering, shifter, and more. If you add everything up it is impossible to get everything for anywhere close to $3500. I am actually thinking about selling my SS for a 1LE. Look at it this way, with the 1LE you are paying $3,500 for the ZL1 wheels and tires, all the other options are free.
How about if you include the depreciation in your current car?
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Old 09-02-2012, 02:54 PM   #33
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The wheels and gears are the only thing swaying me towards the 1LE, I know I could surpass the 1LE with aftermarket parts but for the price it seems like a great deal. A stock 1LE should beat a stock SS in the quarter mile correct?
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Old 09-02-2012, 03:14 PM   #34
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How about if you include the depreciation in your current car?
This is a valid point. And the 1LE will not be any faster than an SS at the strip, still a driver's race. The 1LE will only be faster at the road course. Secondly, the higher final drive ration will also decrease fuel economy. The axles will still probably be weak for performance mods. Gears are like $600, so the gears and suspension puts you at 2600, not 3500 yet.
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