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Old 08-29-2012, 07:45 PM   #1
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ZL1 vs G8 GXP

ZL1: Stock

G8: Tires only

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Old 08-29-2012, 07:47 PM   #2
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Old 08-29-2012, 08:24 PM   #3
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I know, I know, start a fire under the ZL-1 kill it with heat soak and then the G8 would win.
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Old 08-29-2012, 08:28 PM   #4
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585 hp vs 415 hp on the same platform with the same weight (give or take) = ZL1 win.
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This thread is full of win.
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Old 08-29-2012, 10:07 PM   #6
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looking at track times, i figured it'd be a little closer than the facepalms might suggest.

ok, so stock ls3's a no-go. cam and tires?

cut me some slack here, i'm ****ing LSx retarded. the big weight advantage plus tires seems like it could've been a good race. just bench racing here. and do me a favor, let's not refer to manufacturer hp ratings. i think we all know how accurate those are in the real world (especially when boost is involved)
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Old 08-30-2012, 10:37 AM   #7
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ZL1 should smoke it, BUT look at the times posted by real drivers. If the G8 can run 13's, it could very well win. There's a big difference between what Chevy says the car will run, and what it's actually running.
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Old 08-30-2012, 11:59 AM   #8
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that's what i'm saying. sure, low-12's have been had in a stock ZL1 but most of the time it's in the mid-12's. the G8 is a 13-even car stock, so how much would it really take to put it into the mid-12's (ZL1 territory).
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Old 08-30-2012, 01:57 PM   #9
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Find me someone who's run 13 flat in a G8 bone stock. What GM says and real world numbers are totally different things.
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Old 08-30-2012, 02:43 PM   #10
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A well driven bone stock GXP on radials will run high 12s. An average driver will drive a ZL1 to mid-to-low 12s blowing the stock tires off.


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Find me someone who's run 13 flat in a G8 bone stock. What GM says and real world numbers are totally different things.
http://www.dragtimes.com/Pontiac-G8-Timeslip-22332.html 12.93 at -6xx DA

http://www.dragtimes.com/Pontiac-G8-Timeslip-23400.html 12.95 with BMR Trailing Arms, Non-Adjustable Toe Rods, Poly Cradle Bushings, 1450 DA

http://www.dragtimes.com/Pontiac-G8-Timeslip-19751.html 13.12 with a dogshit 2.1 60'

http://www.dragtimes.com/Pontiac-G8-Timeslip-19252.html 13.16 with a 1.9 60' but a dogshit 2200 DA.

Please tell me you don't do much drag racing.
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Old 08-30-2012, 02:52 PM   #11
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those gpxs are quick
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Looks like Motortrend got: 13.0 sec @ 109.6 mph

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...t/viewall.html

There's a difference between mag times and what real drivers are going to get the first time they go to the track, though. I doubt an inexperienced driver would be able to pull off a time like that without some practice.
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Old 08-30-2012, 03:13 PM   #13
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Why not just do a ZL1 VS prius thread. The result would be the same. Asswhoop'en either way.
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Old 08-30-2012, 04:05 PM   #14
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If the ZL1 is stick with an average driver the G8 has a reasonable chance.
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Old 08-30-2012, 04:10 PM   #15
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Please tell me you don't do much drag racing.
Nice hero runs there!

I said bone stock. That includes tires. I didn't say "bone stock on drag radials." (just in case ya missed that part)

And oh, gosh, no, I NEVER drag race, that's just for the men!! I bought my car because OMG IT'S SHINYYYY
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Why not just do a ZL1 VS prius thread. The result would be the same. Asswhoop'en either way.
How about this Prius B%$%hes.
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Old 08-30-2012, 07:01 PM   #17
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Nice hero runs there!

I said bone stock. That includes tires. I didn't say "bone stock on drag radials." (just in case ya missed that part)

And oh, gosh, no, I NEVER drag race, that's just for the men!! I bought my car because OMG IT'S SHINYYYY

Hero runs? How many G8 GXP's you seen run? Were not talking about the G8 GT.

As noted in the thread....G8 GXP with tires, Im guessing drag radials.

That puts the GXP into solid 12.8 range. Or about what the real world drivers are getting out of the ZL1.

If you haven't noticed a lot of "experienced" drivers haven't got out of the 12.5 ish range in the ZL1. To include Hennessey and a few other tuning shops.
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Old 08-31-2012, 09:35 PM   #19
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Even at 12.5 to a 12.8 is a huge difference on the track. Your also talking worse case ZL1 vs absolute best case GXP. Try some winding mountain roads and compare the two stock vs. stock
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