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Old 05-29-2009, 07:44 PM   #51
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That would be even better. It took a couple hours with one guy and a helper at the time of welding. about 6 ft of pipe and about 3 ft of 3/8" steel for hangers and one zawzaw metal blade. If you go to a shop with a good lift and a good pipe man I dont think that 75 per man hour is unreasonable. I am sure if a guy works for 10 to15 per hour it could be done way cheaper. I just felt good about the quality and know that I got a good deal for the money. But If you can get it done even cheaper.....I dont see that as a negative post....I see that as a positive contribution....Right on dude.
yeah I didnt mean it as a cut on anyone else. Ive just known the guy for years,and he has done remarkable work on all my vehicles, Im not kepping him all to myself Ive already offered 2 guys in my area the deal to go up there with me. Just trying to help. Ive been a camaro guy for a long time and love to help others get there rides hooked up.
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Old 05-29-2009, 07:48 PM   #52
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did it to my rumble bee abotu a year ago and prob will do it to the camaro hooked up to long tubes and no cat
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Old 05-29-2009, 08:20 PM   #53
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Old 05-29-2009, 08:27 PM   #54
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Old 05-29-2009, 09:15 PM   #55
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Old 05-29-2009, 11:21 PM   #57
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Old 05-30-2009, 12:24 AM   #58
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And good friends and bbq, beers and family. Right on dude you know right where I am coming from.....
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Old 05-30-2009, 02:11 AM   #59
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First thing that came to mine? ...That saved some weight! But, I see that's been talked about soooooo....

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Old 05-30-2009, 03:43 AM   #60
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go weigh those babies on a bathroom scale.... first real weight reduction data... 30lb aint bad

wonder how this would sound with LT headers.... or better yet..... a cam
Prob a lil crackly! depending on the car! go on youtube and search Longtubes with strait pipes
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Old 05-30-2009, 04:10 AM   #61
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Yeah I just talked to my guy here and he said he could do it for like 40 or 50 bucks
This is mod is nothing new!. Ive been to several diff exhaust shops with the vehichles ive owned and have never paid over 100 for work like this. Had full exhaust and cutout installed onto LT's at a local shop and it cost me $75 and 45 min of work. Never had one problem. Not that $200 is something to cry about but if your paying over $50 for a quick cut and weld ur getting ripped For that price it is much more worth it to just replace the mufflers with a loud well designed high flow system that will eliminate drone and crackle. (borla xr1's) (slp loudmouth I) (corsa stingers) (spintech system)

Also this is a 30 min job taking your time lol

BTW im no know it all just my expierence
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Old 05-30-2009, 04:18 AM   #62
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Will this mod void the warranty on my exhaust?
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Old 05-30-2009, 04:36 AM   #63
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Will this mod void the warranty on my exhaust?
Of course, you have totally changed the system so all bets are off as far as exhaust goes.
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Old 05-30-2009, 08:37 AM   #64
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... but then again I am not putting on my front license plate either.
That's hillarious. I don't have the front license plate on my truck either. I moved from Oklahoma to VA last year (due to military stuff), and in OK they didn't care one bit about it....but oh my god, here in VA they are crazy about having 2 license plates. (I still ain't puttin' one on, though.) Can't wait to move back to OK where people aren't so damn up-tight.

The sad part is I grew up in VA, but can't wait to move away again.

Anyway, sorry....off-topic.
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Old 05-30-2009, 08:39 AM   #65
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so we need some dyno #s here, Im sure it picked up something. someone do this and dyno there car so we can see what we are working with
Remember-this is at 5,000+ feet elevation, so the RWHP is substantially less, but the gains to breath should help. Sounds great, but what is the db reading for those pesky noise ordinances ??
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Old 05-30-2009, 10:09 AM   #66
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Remember-this is at 5,000+ feet elevation, so the RWHP is substantially less, but the gains to breath should help. Sounds great, but what is the db reading for those pesky noise ordinances ??
105 db in most areas and that is really loud. And I am actually at about 5900 ft so the air is a lot thinner here. Need to throw a ram air filter on and pack in some more air now to balance everything out. I will try to get a video of driving on highway to show that there is no drone. The only negitive thing I have noticed is that when you let off the gas or are creating engine backpressure the exhaust crackels or pops a little. But so far the positives far outweigh th negitives and the only way to eliminate the crackel in a high compression engine is to baffle muffle it and that is what came from the factory.
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Will this mod void the warranty on my exhaust?
Look if you want your exhaust warranty you leave it on. If you take it off it will never wear out so you gain a lifetime warranty. However it should have no effect on the cat warranty or the headers etc. Just your mufflers and the pipes where you have to weld. This is not a new mod. Its been done for as long as I can remember. It is just plain and simple one of the least expensive ways to gain power, more muscle car sound, and have fun.
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Old 05-30-2009, 10:45 AM   #68
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2010 SS RS solid work. And just a thought, $200 is not that far off, because it's time/little material and time is money. Most quality exhaust guys that are worth a crap have done tons of old cars. The time it take for a full length system in an older car is not spent on trying to center the exhaust in a rear roll pan of a car they have not seen.
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Old 05-30-2009, 10:56 AM   #69
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This is mod is nothing new!. Ive been to several diff exhaust shops with the vehichles ive owned and have never paid over 100 for work like this. Had full exhaust and cutout installed onto LT's at a local shop and it cost me $75 and 45 min of work. Never had one problem. Not that $200 is something to cry about but if your paying over $50 for a quick cut and weld ur getting ripped For that price it is much more worth it to just replace the mufflers with a loud well designed high flow system that will eliminate drone and crackle. (borla xr1's) (slp loudmouth I) (corsa stingers) (spintech system)

Also this is a 30 min job taking your time lol

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my 96 LS6 has got LT's No Cats 3 inch all the way back to a loudmouth, and it still has a good bit of crackle, but people love it, its loud and sounds like a muscle car should. It drones a little but hey It works 4 me. And as far as pop goes, most of that can be taken care of with a good tune.
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Sounds good! Am I the only one who thought a muffler-less system would sound louder?

Also for those clamoring for dyno numbers, I dont think the numbers would increase all that much considering total airflow has not really been increased, only exhaust flow (at the expense of backpressure, mind you). That's assuming the engine is sucking in air as fast as the stock paper filter allows (unless you already did that and I can't read).

Cold air intake, plus removing the mufflers, and I would expect a bigger increase in gains.
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Sounds good! Am I the only one who thought a muffler-less system would sound louder?

Also for those clamoring for dyno numbers, I dont think the numbers would increase all that much considering total airflow has not really been increased, only exhaust flow (at the expense of backpressure, mind you). That's assuming the engine is sucking in air as fast as the stock paper filter allows (unless you already did that and I can't read).

Cold air intake, plus removing the mufflers, and I would expect a bigger increase in gains.
Im with you, of course muffler less is gonna be louder, now if you add LT's and remove cats that will definately be louder. But Ithink numbers will slightly increase because you are decreasing restriction, which is adding flow. Im sure the stock filter is capable of a few more cfm than what its doing now.
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Look if you want your exhaust warranty you leave it on. If you take it off it will never wear out so you gain a lifetime warranty.
Since you welded on "Aluminized Steel" pipes to the factory 409 S.S. pipes, those muffler eliminator pipes will rot out twice as fast as the factory 409 S.S. mufflers due to attaching dis-similar metals.

Now if your exhaust shop can do this same thing with 409 pipe, I will agree that the life of the exhaust system should be extended.

Another thing to consider is these huge factory mufflers are part of the car's rear collision crumple zone and without them it is possible that you are compromizing your safety (or at least rear seat passenger safety) if you were ever to get rear-ended.

Now please don't take my comments the wrong way ... I am in no way against this type of mod, and this in particluar was executed perfectly and sounds much better than most muffler deletes I've heard. Just wanted to point out a couple of concerns that may be of importance to some readers.

Thanks for posting it and taking the time to do all the videos ... a job well done !!

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LS/LT/SS cars all have true duel exhaust w/ an X-pipe. And yes, the cats (2 per bank, 4 total) do muffle the car a bit.
Everything I've seen and heard points to the Camaro having a stock H-pipe.


I don't know if the absence of the mufflers will affect the design of the structural crumple zone but I agree 100% the metals need to match.
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