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Old 09-06-2012, 08:47 AM   #1
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Hoosier 28x10-17 need tubes?

I know this is tires so it probably goes in the tire section, but I figure there is a much better chance the people in here have first hand experience?

I am ordering some Hoosier 28x10-17 slicks today as I noticed my M&H's are now dead Should I get tubes for the slicks or run without? My car is not very fast (11.9 @ 9,000DA).

Are there any pro's/ cons to tubes?

Current tire :(

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I have 20 passes on my Hoosiers without tubes and have had no issues. I played with tire pressure from 11 to 20 lbs and found 14.5 lbs. seems to work good for my car.

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Unless you plan on screwing the tires to the wheels you won't need tubes.
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Old 09-06-2012, 09:30 AM   #4
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I have 20 passes on my Hoosiers without tubes and have had no issues. I played with tire pressure from 11 to 20 lbs and found 14.5 lbs. seems to work good for my car.

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Unless you plan on screwing the tires to the wheels you won't need tubes.
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Old 09-06-2012, 07:01 PM   #5
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jamie will tell you, if you have 700rwhp range, you prob might want to consider screws..
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Old 09-06-2012, 08:40 PM   #6
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jamie will tell you, if you have 700rwhp range, you prob might want to consider screws..
Ha! At least mark the valve stem on the tire and make sure they don't spin on the wheel. I was spinning my tires have way around the rim.

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Old 09-11-2012, 10:39 AM   #7
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The tubes will help with side sway on the big end. What rims and tires are you running up front? I just want to make sure you running a skinny.
Slicks feel a whole lot diffrent then DR.
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If you don't run tubes and screws, I'd mark them for sure.

Only downside to not running tubes is sometimes my slicks would go flat pretty quick. There is some sort of trick using liquid soap or something to use between the wheel and slick that helps it from loosing air too fast, maybe search on that. Might be a good thread on on YB.
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Has anyone had a problem with the Hoosiers going out of round? I noticed on the return road from the track that the car seemed unusually bumpy, but had written it off to adjusting rear coilovers to full stiff. I put the rear on jacks and let the tires spin at idle and have quite the hop on my LR tire..... about 3/8" of an inch, but everything looks good otherwise. Used them for 1 test-n-tune night (about 7 passes), Sturgis Camaro Rally 1/8th mile, and 6 passes at Bandimere's Super Chevy 2013. Lots of tread still.
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I have searched for 17 inch tubes and did not find any available?
If you know where to get some let me know please.
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Has anyone had a problem with the Hoosiers going out of round? I noticed on the return road from the track that the car seemed unusually bumpy, but had written it off to adjusting rear coilovers to full stiff. I put the rear on jacks and let the tires spin at idle and have quite the hop on my LR tire..... about 3/8" of an inch, but everything looks good otherwise. Used them for 1 test-n-tune night (about 7 passes), Sturgis Camaro Rally 1/8th mile, and 6 passes at Bandimere's Super Chevy 2013. Lots of tread still.
Maybe the wheel is out of round.
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I have searched for 17 inch tubes and did not find any available?
If you know where to get some let me know please.
The largest I've seen are 16's. Ill poke around.
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As Jaime knows, my tires are screwed to the rims and I do not have tubes in them...just have to be diligent about checking the air pressure... Which as racers we can be a bit anal about that anyway...
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As Jaime knows, my tires are screwed to the rims and I do not have tubes in them...just have to be diligent about checking the air pressure... Which as racers we can be a bit anal about that anyway...
What screws did you use? I bought the 1/4" x 3/4" screws Mr.Gasket but the same as Moroso and others and I measured the tire andwheel thickness and the both are only 5/8" so the screw would go through the tire and for sure cause a leak, I did not install them and was going to try to find some 1/2" long ones.

Also if the screws go through wouldn't it pop the tubes, if it had tubes?
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What screws did you use? I bought the 1/4" x 3/4" screws Mr.Gasket but the same as Moroso and others and I measured the tire andwheel thickness and the both are only 5/8" so the screw would go through the tire and for sure cause a leak, I did not install them and was going to try to find some 1/2" long ones.

Also if the screws go through wouldn't it pop the tubes, if it had tubes?
I run screws and tubes and have never had an issue.
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I run screws and tubes and have never had an issue.
Did you measure your wire/tire thickness? Was that on the 17" or your 16" (screws)? I remember you said you had some thicker wheels from Bogart. I can't see how the tip og the screw going all the way through the tire wouldn't pop the tube, yours must not have gone through.
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What screws did you use? I bought the 1/4" x 3/4" screws Mr.Gasket but the same as Moroso and others and I measured the tire andwheel thickness and the both are only 5/8" so the screw would go through the tire and for sure cause a leak, I did not install them and was going to try to find some 1/2" long ones.

Also if the screws go through wouldn't it pop the tubes, if it had tubes?
The rubber of the bead seals very tight around the screws... But as I mentioned, diligence to tire pressures is a must...
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Did you measure your wire/tire thickness? Was that on the 17" or your 16" (screws)? I remember you said you had some thicker wheels from Bogart. I can't see how the tip og the screw going all the way through the tire wouldn't pop the tube, yours must not have gone through.
Come on. Do you think I measured the screws. Be happy that I remembered what brand the were!!

Even on a regular Bogart my tubes never leaked.

Tire screw with no tubes started to leak as soon as I went down to 16 psi. This happened overnight. It wasn't quick.
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I am just not confident in how a purtruding screw won't pop the tube. Guess ill find out ifs e spin tomorrow night.
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I am thinking of doing 1/8"+ of washers with mine so it won't go completely through the wheel/tire combo. I miced .625 thickness for my wheel/tire combo so I am going to do .600 ish worth of screw.
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Maybe the wheel is out of round.
I'll check closer... almost positive the outside of the rim looked good as I spun it, but it could be an inside edge problem. My Weld rims seem to be tougher than the previous Bogarts and closer tolerances, plus I install them at the track.... so no road damage possible unless a LCA came in contact with the rim.

I had a good burnout and was staged forever while my competition took his sweet time on 1 pass, so maybe just one side of the tire cooled off and distorted it? I'll have to throw it on a balancer and check the runout #s closer and maybe call Hoosier afterwards if nothing points to the rim.
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You can always grind the screws down a little so they don't poke through the tire bead. Just recently did this on a friends Chevelle.
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You can always grind the screws down a little so they don't poke through the tire bead. Just recently did this on a friends Chevelle.
Well if you grind a 1/4" off then you have no tip, hows the screw start itself in the tire?
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