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Old 09-07-2012, 06:08 PM   #18
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When I said "can't" I was saying they can't unless we want a $70K Camaro.
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Old 09-07-2012, 06:08 PM   #19
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I was giving a what if. Not saying they would do it. And yes they could replace components with light weight composites in all removable body panels and high strength alloys in other areas that could reduce weight along with removing much of the sound insulation.
What if they just build the damn car how we want it? They won't release a 475 HP LS3 and they won't strip out a bunch of weight.
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Old 09-07-2012, 06:15 PM   #20
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When I said "can't" I was saying they can't unless we want a $70K Camaro.
Nobody ever has put a price point on it. Anything is possible...
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Old 09-07-2012, 06:18 PM   #21
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What if they just build the damn car how we want it? They won't release a 475 HP LS3 and they won't strip out a bunch of weight.
The problem is everybody has their idea what a Z28 should be and no matter how they build it you are going tho have a bunch of people crying that they screwed it up. That is probably why there has not been a Z28 yet. Too many whiners that will never be happy.
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Old 09-07-2012, 06:27 PM   #22
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The problem is everybody has their idea what a Z28 should be and no matter how they build it you are going tho have a bunch of people crying that they screwed it up. That is probably why there has not been a Z28 yet. Too many whiners that will never be happy.
I don't see many whiners on this forum, what I do see is an abundance of people jumping into this forum thinking they have all the answers while they conveniently forget that we have been actively discussing for several years all of the possibilities that might be possible for a new Z/28. And then they get pissed because we don't agree with their ridiculous statements. That's what I see.
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Old 09-07-2012, 06:34 PM   #23
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I don't see many whiners on this forum, what I do see is an abundance of people jumping into this forum thinking they have all the answers while they conveniently forget that we have been actively discussing for several years all of the possibilities that might be possible for a new Z/28. And then they get pissed because we don't agree with their ridiculous statements. That's what I see.
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Just what I said too many different people thinking they know what a Z28 should be. Heck people can't even agree that the SS is right. They whine all the time wanting this or that to be changed, it's been that way from day one. I can't see it being any different for the Z28, in fact it will probably be even worse.
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Old 09-07-2012, 06:43 PM   #24
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If you take the time to read through the Z28 threads you will see we have, as Clyde said, discussed many possibilities. We've had the pleasure to have had some insiders point us in the right directions as to what is doable, what is possible and probable if they do make a 5Gen Z28. I'm sorry, but using the word whiners comes accross as a childish way to argue your point.

Take the time and read intently through the threads to see why we've come to the understanding we have.
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Old 09-07-2012, 06:45 PM   #25
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Nobody ever has put a price point on it. Anything is possible...
My comment is again based on insider comments.
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Old 09-07-2012, 06:58 PM   #26
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If you take the time to read through the Z28 threads you will see we have, as Clyde said, discussed many possibilities. We've had the pleasure to have had some insiders point us in the right directions as to what is doable, what is possible and probable if they do make a 5Gen Z28. I'm sorry, but using the word whiners comes accross as a childish way to argue your point.

Take the time and read intently through the threads to see why we've come to the understanding we have.
Of the threads I have seen there have been many heated discussions over what a Z28 should be. Saying I am being childish saying there are whiners on here, well all I can say is there are a lot of people that like to complain in a manner that comes across as whining. Seems like I was attacked for just giving a what if.
Anyway they need to go back to the original formula they used for a Z28 back in 67. That was the true Z the 67-69 versions.
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Old 09-07-2012, 07:10 PM   #27
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My comment is again based on insider comments.
Ok I will accept that but again my what if comment was just in reply to my sons comment about the 1LE package not being the Boss competitor. And if they could bump up the HP and remove weight if it would qualify as a Z28.
Never ever saying it would be done, at least not in the 5th Gen.

I am sorry if I said anything that may have upset those Z28 faithful. So i will now bow out gracefully.Good night everyone and I hope you all get what you want in a Z28
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Old 09-07-2012, 08:30 PM   #30
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Of the threads I have seen there have been many heated discussions over what a Z28 should be. Saying I am being childish saying there are whiners on here, well all I can say is there are a lot of people that like to complain in a manner that comes across as whining. Seems like I was attacked for just giving a what if.
Anyway they need to go back to the original formula they used for a Z28 back in 67. That was the true Z the 67-69 versions.
I fully agree with your thought that the 1Gen is to be emulated. I also fully believe based on what FbodFather and others (in the know) have said is that GM (finally) gets it. And they so far are proving that point.

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Old 09-07-2012, 08:42 PM   #31
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Ok I will accept that but again my what if comment was just in reply to my sons comment about the 1LE package not being the Boss competitor. And if they could bump up the HP and remove weight if it would qualify as a Z28.
Never ever saying it would be done, at least not in the 5th Gen.

I am sorry if I said anything that may have upset those Z28 faithful. So i will now bow out gracefully.Good night everyone and I hope you all get what you want in a Z28
I agree with both of you the 1LE is a very impressive "Track Pack". It should be compared primarily to the Mustang GT "Track Pack" due to it being an option for the SS as well as its price point. The fact that it is superior to the Boss in some of its capabilities just shows the high value that comes from the Camaro brand.

I'm personally not upset, just trying to help others not as deeply familiar with all the in-depth discussions here see why we've come to the conclusions we have. Some that are faithful regulars to the Z28 threads can get upset (I have myself been offended by others) due to the attempts by some (not you) that I call hit-n-runners. They come hear and leave very negative comments and disappear. So some if us may be sensitive to that. Your welcome to come back.
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Old 09-07-2012, 08:42 PM   #32
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What of they bumped up the HP of the 1LE to 475HP and dropped 200 pounds of weight. Would it then qualify as a Z28 in your eyes?
a bump in hp and an option like the laguna seca edition boss would be awesome. roll cage and all. The 1LE option is more a track pack then anything. which the mustang has also. it's just my opinion.


I know this has nothing to do with this thread but. why does the 1LE, Vert and Z28 get it's on sections for models/packages but the V-6, SS, and ZL1 all are still at the top of the page. . . improper lay out imo. someone should say something to the mods about how the site isn't laid out properly. lol.
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a bump in hp and an option like the laguna seca edition boss would be awesome. roll cage and all. The 1LE option is more a track pack then anything. which the mustang has also. it's just my opinion.


I know this has nothing to do with this thread but. why does the 1LE, Vert and Z28 get it's on sections for models/packages but the V-6, SS, and ZL1 all are still at the top of the page. . . improper lay out imo. someone should say something to the mods about how the site isn't laid out properly. lol.
I agree. We all thought some of the sections were gone at first. Since they did this these sections of the forum have been much quieter. :(
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I guess we are the bastard children then.

the ZL1 , ss and v6 should be down in this section and then 1le a subform of the SS section.
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