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Old 01-08-2008, 11:03 AM   #1
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Venting about classes

So classes start again today, and my first class was Information Systems. The prof could be a character straight out of "The Office". Its just horrible. Attendance is mandatory and graded, and that grade makes up 1/4 of our final grade. Are we in kindergarten again? And we're going to learn all sorts of exciting and complex tasks like putting data into excel and making a sum. And all this in an 8:00 AM class. Yay!


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Old 01-08-2008, 11:06 AM   #2
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LOL, understand completely.. This is my last semester (if all my classes run).. so for a recap on my end..

SQL admin
SQL dev and implimentation
Web Development
VB .NET XML programming
VB .NET ASP programming
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17 credits.. and a full time job..

Though my classes start next monday.
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Old 01-08-2008, 11:54 AM   #3
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OOh I hate those computer classes where they go really slow. And then some girl is like, "Wait, can you go back?" or "SLOW DOWN!". F**k.

Where do you go to school? I'm kinda surprised you're going back a little early. Mine start the 14th.
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Old 01-08-2008, 11:59 AM   #4
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heh, I always called that class diablo 2 class...
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Hey, If you guys would like some help, let me know. I'm not a super developer but I am pretty sure I can help if you'd like. Been working in IT now for over 10yrs. Everything from networking to client -server to web development (.net mostly) I'm a project manager now so I'm not as proficient as I used to be. For what it's worth.

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Old 01-08-2008, 12:22 PM   #6
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My classes started monday. This semester looks like it will be relatively fun. I say relatively because not too many would consider electromechanical energy conversions, engineering ethics, and advanced mechatronics fun.

So far all my profs are good, I had my ethics prof last year for economics, and I've had my advanced mech prof a few times. The prof for EMEcon seems kinda cool, a guy with a doctorate in engineering who talks like a mechanic. I still have to meet my psychology prof, and my other course doesn't really have lectures (design thesis). all in all, a good semester
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Old 01-08-2008, 12:24 PM   #7
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You want fun? Wait until you get out of school and have 1 wife, 3 kids, 2 pets, 1 house and a car habit to pay for on 1 income.

Ah, the days of being in college. If I only knew how easy I had it then. BTW, I did work full time when I went to college full time. Looking back, it was a pretty simple life.

Kidding aside, I enjoy everything I have, all responsibilities included.
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Old 01-08-2008, 01:07 PM   #8
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You want fun? Wait until you get out of school and have 1 wife, 3 kids, 2 pets, 1 house and a car habit to pay for on 1 income.

Ah, the days of being in college. If I only knew how easy I had it then. BTW, I did work full time when I went to college full time. Looking back, it was a pretty simple life.

Kidding aside, I enjoy everything I have, all responsibilities included.
1 wife, check
2 cars (with car payments), check
1 house, check
Kids, Never
Pets, Not at the moment dont have time
Full time school, check
Full time job (IT industry,sql server admin and engineer), check

More than enough of a full plate.. I go to school with kids (I'm 27 and just now finishing my associates). I went for the career before school, but now I'm working on that peice of paper. But like you I enjoy it.. now if I could just get enough money together to pay for my bachelors I'd be set...
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Old 01-08-2008, 01:21 PM   #10
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So classes start again today, and my first class was Information Systems. The prof could be a character straight out of "The Office". Its just horrible. Attendance is mandatory and graded, and that grade makes up 1/4 of our final grade. Are we in kindergarten again? And we're going to learn all sorts of exciting and complex tasks like putting data into excel and making a sum. And all this in an 8:00 AM class. Yay!


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So very glad I'm done. Been toying with the idea of getting my masters? MBA? My undergrad is Computer Science.
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I also have a health class, but the prof seems pretty good for that one. Then I have two econ classes with a professor I've had before and he's one of my favorites, so that should be good. Then I have international business, which should be a hard class but I hear the prof is good and it fulfills two requirements. I'm also working 22 hours a week and planning a wedding. So I'm not as busy as many of you (God bless you) but I have a bit on my plate. Good times. I will miss college in the end I think.
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Old 01-08-2008, 01:34 PM   #12
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Our PD will pay for us to go to college and get our degree if we wish. All A's equals full pay from the city. Once we are done w/ classes, we begin to get the incentive pay.

Assoc degree = $160 month
Bach degree = $310 month (or 320...not sure...)

The city will also pay for us to get our masters, but the return for having the Masters in pay is really not that much....no great incentive. Now, if they paid $300 per month on top of the $310 a month I get for my BA, I'd def. get it. I'm just SOOOOO happy it's finally over. Those 25 page papers towards the end of my college carrer killed off the "fun factor" of ANY classes I had.
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... Those 25 page papers towards the end of my college carrer killed off the "fun factor" of ANY classes I had.
I think that's one of the benefits of the computer science degree. I spent a ton of time in front of the computer but I was working on real development projects instead of APA MLA Refrences... yeuck. Seemed that way to me anyway. I hated my 100 level courses with all the damn papers on subjects I wasn't that interested in.
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Old 01-08-2008, 02:30 PM   #14
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Well I don't have to start back for the Spring semester until the 22nd, so YAY!!! But when I do go back I'll have

Concepts of Disease Processes
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And I still have lots of money to pay the Nursing program to boot! Woo flippin' Hoo! lol
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Those 25 page papers towards the end of my college carrer killed off the "fun factor" of ANY classes I had.
I had 2 50+ page reports (plus another 50 pages of appendix) due within a week of each other last semester. Though they were both done in groups, it was still lots of work. Then this semester, I have three more to do. And the worst part about it is that in engineering reports there is very little BS (compared to artsy papers), its all 'real'

And to all you computer science and software engineering people, no offense but there is something wrong with you. Seriously, get help. You are not normal
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What I didn't tell you was that after completing my 25 page paper, I went to print it and somehow got a bug on my disk. I lost the paper from page 13 or 14 on....it all turned to code. It was there, and I had to show it to my professor, but it was code. He knew it was written, gave me two more weeks, I did it, but it was my last class and I was graduating. I have it a half ass shot just "completing" it....if you know what I mean. Well, needless to say, he called it crap. hehehe...ouch. But, yeah...it wasn't that great. I just wanted to finish it.

Well, he gave me another opportunity to rewrite it. Being the type of person I am, I felt obligated to rewrite the paper...even though I was graduating soon. I did it (quickly, I might add), turned it in, got a passing grade, was given the opportunity to write it again (since I told him I expected only an A from myself in his class...and so far, it was an A...flying colors)...I wrote a total of about 65 pages. I was DONE. I took the passing grade for the paper and walked out of his class w/ a B. I was happy with that since he is known as a VERY tough professor.
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And to all you computer science and software engineering people, no offense but there is something wrong with you. Seriously, get help. You are not normal
A lot of people tell me that.. until I tell them what programmers here in phx make.. entry level is around 75k/year just because there are no programmers entering the market.

Hell, I had to jump through hoops to get 2 classes to run. Rhe college I'm going to just ditched the programming degree (MCAD, microsoft certified applications development) becuase there is 3, count them 3 of us in the program. This of course happened the semester before I finished my degree. SOOOO I'm its forced me to run so many classes in this last semester or change my degree and add 3-4 more classes.
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ouch. Thankfully i haven't lost any assignments or projects that way, though i did lost some code from a lab once on a usb drive. it was nothing important though
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Old 01-08-2008, 04:51 PM   #19
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A lot of people tell me that.. until I tell them what programmers here in phx make.. entry level is around 75k/year just because there are no programmers entering the market.

Hell, I had to jump through hoops to get 2 classes to run. Rhe college I'm going to just ditched the programming degree (MCAD, microsoft certified applications development) becuase there is 3, count them 3 of us in the program. This of course happened the semester before I finished my degree. SOOOO I'm its forced me to run so many classes in this last semester or change my degree and add 3-4 more classes.
That's very interesting. We've been planning on moving back to AZ. Originally from Tucson, all the family is there.

I've got considerable development experience but much prefer project management. I'm not a true developer at heart. I'm much better at requirements, use cases , testing, and deployment/integration. I only developed cuz I had to. But if the market isn't saturated with Engineers.... hmmm. I may have to start looking at Phx as well. I've got a bunch of Gov experience and there are a few Gov Contractors in Tucson. So, that has been the default plan. Good info to know.
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Good gawd..... I'm going back to school this Thursday.....this thread reminded me of it.... im so depressed now....... I have IT and my final two HRM classes along with my practicum (40 hours of work experience with a company) and a big ass final project that I have to present to a board of HRM people so that I can graduate. The only thing I look forward to is the latter.... finally I graduate with my BBA and get on with life!!!!
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What I didn't tell you was that after completing my 25 page paper, I went to print it and somehow got a bug on my disk. I lost the paper from page 13 or 14 on....it all turned to code. It was there, and I had to show it to my professor, but it was code. He knew it was written, gave me two more weeks, I did it, but it was my last class and I was graduating. I have it a half ass shot just "completing" it....if you know what I mean. Well, needless to say, he called it crap. hehehe...ouch. But, yeah...it wasn't that great. I just wanted to finish it.

Well, he gave me another opportunity to rewrite it. Being the type of person I am, I felt obligated to rewrite the paper...even though I was graduating soon. I did it (quickly, I might add), turned it in, got a passing grade, was given the opportunity to write it again (since I told him I expected only an A from myself in his class...and so far, it was an A...flying colors)...I wrote a total of about 65 pages. I was DONE. I took the passing grade for the paper and walked out of his class w/ a B. I was happy with that since he is known as a VERY tough professor.
Hopefully you didn't go to UTSA, meaning I won't have a chance to get that professor next year, or in a later year in college.. As soon as high school is done with in a few months I'm going straight to college. Not taking any summers off.. Going to get all 4-6 years done with in 3-5 hopefully.. Bachelors or Masters, we'll see :\
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I'm a business econ major. Very little writing, good job opportunities and pay, and the program is big enough that classes are rarely canceled.
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I'm am an Aerospace Engineering Major Schools and starts tomorrow for me. I have to take Physics and Differential Equations to take now. And I have heard how much fun I would be having in Differential Equations.
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Well 4 of 5 classes down and they don't seem too bad this year... Keeping my fingers crossed.
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Mine don't start till the 17th. I don't have class before 10:00 AM. I don't even have class on Fridays this semester. I love KU.
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