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Old 09-14-2012, 08:25 AM   #76
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I tend to agree more with Ofer on this. We're going to see it on the 5th gen.

My own take on it, which officially means nothing...

I truly think the 1LE is a band-aid until "the coming". Not saying the car isn't bad-ass in its own right, it's just that it's an option on the SS (and a very good one) whereas the Z28 may likely be better suited to take the 1LE to another level. Maybe with more power, or even better handling, less weight, and road-race-ready components and less frills. I'm thinking more of a link between the 1LE and COPO Camaro type.

My gut feeling says the V6 and SS will stay as the bread-n-butter Camaros. Although the SS originally was tailored more as the street-bruiser, the current ZL1 has sort of morphed into that role. I would have expected a ZL1 to be a barely streetable version of the current COPO type Camaro.

Of course I don't have to work with upcoming EPA strangulation regulations either, so I'm not sure how GM is going to work it, but I have faith.

But obviously, GM isn't stupid. They make sure things like this get out there in the Camaro public to jazz up discussions. So I think the Z28 will be coming sooner than some people think. Or maybe they're just yankin' chains. JMO.
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Old 09-14-2012, 10:38 AM   #77
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Guess I will have to have 2 camaros in my garage lol I swear when o get one paid off another one comes along
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Old 09-14-2012, 10:54 AM   #78
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I have my money on COPO style track beast. Designed to only see the track.
LS7 Not needed. The 327 COPO would be awesome foundation.
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Old 09-14-2012, 11:00 AM   #79
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I cannot wait to see what this car is going to be.
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Old 09-14-2012, 11:32 AM   #81
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45-48K depending on options.
That's a good place to start. Gives customers more decisions to make. :(

Let's see:

SS starts at $33,535
1LE starts at $37,035
Z28 starts at $45,525? :(
ZL1 starts at $56,550

I see a big gap ($19K) between the 1LE and ZL1. So there is lots of room to put a starting price.

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Guess I will have to have 2 camaros in my garage lol I swear when o get one paid off another one comes along
I just want a Camaro and they give choices. damn it.
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Old 09-14-2012, 11:37 AM   #82
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somethings coming................... cant wait too see what it is
Chill out guys gm has owned this tm for years, its just a routine renewal...besides I just got a text from ed saying the z28 will be a twin turbo 4banger in 2015. I asked him to keep me updated...he said ok.

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Old 09-14-2012, 11:39 AM   #83
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i heard the ls7 is going to be stopped in production...etleast in Corvettes anyway. If there will be a Z28(as i have been waiting on now since 2007 from all the new Camaro hype) i will own one.... maybe my pace car will be paid for by then
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Old 09-14-2012, 12:02 PM   #84
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1LE + Gen5 LS7 Replacement = Z28.
Voila! Bingo...
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Old 09-14-2012, 12:02 PM   #85
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I'm hoping to see a ZL1-type car minus LSA but plus LS7. I don't know that that will be much, if any savings in money, particularly because of how expensive LS7 is. I don't see much in the way of saving weight because that costs a lot of money, too. I'd really love to see something with more power than LSA, but I'm not holding my breath.

I say - add some competition tires, like Sport Cups (add those to ZL1 while you're at it, GM ), more aggressive MR-tuning, coils, and stab' bars, and wreck some Mustangs.
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Old 09-14-2012, 12:30 PM   #86
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LS7 Not needed. The 327 COPO would be awesome foundation.
Yeah. I bet the 327 used in the COPO is 50 state smog legal.
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Old 09-14-2012, 12:32 PM   #87
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45-48K depending on options.
No, just no.
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Old 09-14-2012, 12:32 PM   #88
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I honestly can't see the point in a Z28 in the current 5th gen. I would be willing to bet that if we do see it's return it won't be until the 6th gen comes around.
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Old 09-14-2012, 12:33 PM   #89
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Yeah. I bet the 327 used in the COPO is 50 state smog legal.
dont need it to be 50 state legal just 20 or 30 cool ones that dgaf about emmisions
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My money is on the 1LE = Z28. My memory sucks lately but I'm recalling that the 1LE designation was an 'option package' you could get on some cars. Am I on the mark with that? With the exception of '69, Camaro has had the flat Camaro, RS, SS, and Z28 designations. I'm looking at images of the 1LE and I'm not seeing those characters written on the car anywhere as does the RS, SS, ZL1, and previous Z28s. I also don't recall a 1LE in the historical lineup for Camaros as a proper designation. Just saying...

I like the idea that the Z28 could be a lighter weight version of the 1LE. That would be quite an improvement.

LS - Luxury Sport
LE - Limited Edition (typically changed where it sat in the lineup depending on package - in this case it should be below the SS in this list)
LT - Luxury Touring
RS - Rally Sport
SS - Super Sport

Then you had the Z28.

Does that make any sense? Shrugs.

My thoughts are more based on car names in the GM umbrella. I remember my father (GM Exec) bringing home a Buick Regal that had a mohawk which had "3.8 LTR TURBO" as a promo vehicle. The next year was the year of the Grand National. Remember the Pursuit followed by the Pursuit G5 followed by G5. Grand Am -> G6. Montana was a package version of the van (and memory is failing yet again on the original name of the van), soon to be renamed to Montana. I'm thinking the 1LE is a promo package which is gearing up to be the Z28.

I'd like to think it's an educated guess. (Note to GM: Humour me)
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Old 09-14-2012, 12:45 PM   #91
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dont need it to be 50 state legal just 20 or 30 cool ones that dgaf about emmisions

DGAF?

Yeah because GM wants to lose the market in states that require SMOG because they are too cool to worry about profits right?
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Old 09-14-2012, 01:08 PM   #92
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The article suggests it will replace the SS Camaro when the SS sedan is launched which, I think, is a 2014 model. That would mean there would be a 5th gen Z/28.
My money is on this. SS designation simply being replaced by Z/28. Same car, new name.
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Old 09-14-2012, 01:40 PM   #93
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i'm with Denis,i feel like it will probably replace the "1le" in the 6th gen,but way back G.M. said they would build special models of the Camaro every 6 months...?maybe we will see a "z28 Panther edition"
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Old 09-14-2012, 01:59 PM   #94
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Chill out guys gm has owned this tm for years, its just a routine renewal...
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Old 09-14-2012, 02:09 PM   #95
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If The Z28 comes in Gen5 I think it will be equal to the 1SS-1LE in price and general performance but will be probably lighter so more oriented at track days than daily driving. So better at the track harder on the roads.
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Old 09-14-2012, 02:22 PM   #96
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How ticked would everyone be if the Z turns out to be a V8 apperance package only?
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For those of you who want a 5th Z28 badly with more HP I hope you get it, but I will wait for the 6th Gen offering. My main reason to wait is weight, why take a Gen 5 3,800lb Z28 when I can get a 3,400lb Z28 with a DI V8 likely to have more power then the SS now in a few years. IMO the only acceptabel gen 5 Z28 would eb an engine similar to the LS7 and equal to the 1LE performance parts.
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Old 09-14-2012, 02:58 PM   #98
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The Z28 is easily going to be the foundation for ultra-performance in the 6th Gen Camaro....... That is why I am waiting for it.....
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I believe they are simply renewing the trademark to keep from losing it. I don't think they are planning anything big. I mean, the SS has, in the past, been the higher trim over the Z28. So why make the Z28 higher than the SS now? I don't see it happening, and there's no pricing room between the V6 and the SS as there once was to work it in.

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