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Old 09-14-2012, 03:37 PM   #101
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Old 09-14-2012, 04:04 PM   #102
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I'm surprised GM didn't have this trademarked already.
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Old 09-14-2012, 04:08 PM   #103
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I do like that GM also trademarked "El Camino" and Holden lifted the export ban on thier Ute.
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Old 09-14-2012, 04:10 PM   #104
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Old 09-14-2012, 04:17 PM   #105
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I always thought GM would make the Z28 like the Boss 302.. Then the 1LE came out. So now I don't know WHAT'S up their sleeve
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Old 09-14-2012, 05:08 PM   #106
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I know dealerships are making a ton of money off of used cars. Hell, their even calling you asking for your used car. Think of all those who had RS and fell into the debate of V6 vs V8, SS swapped out for ZL1. Hell at my car show on last weekend a guy with a '11 2SSRS with 10K on it wanted a sells rep at the show stat so he could see how much a hit he would take on his SS cause he's ordering a ZL. All I know is I'm holding my position. I retire in 24 months and walk with a $120k+ check in addition to my pension of $3500 a month. If the Z28 comes out, I'll seriously think about grabbing it and if not, maybe a used ZL might be in my future but I'm in no hurry to do anything. I think they, all manufacturers strategically do what they do to sell, collect inventory and resale as not everyone is able to buy new but a new used or a certified used or just a damn good used car, modded too? We'll see how it all shakes out....... To be continued for sure.
I also would think anytime they have a name or brand, they immediately do a trademark, copyright or something to that affect to secure the name, forever......
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Old 09-14-2012, 05:13 PM   #107
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Old 09-14-2012, 05:25 PM   #108
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I believe they are simply renewing the trademark to keep from losing it. I don't think they are planning anything big. I mean, the SS has, in the past, been the higher trim over the Z28. So why make the Z28 higher than the SS now? I don't see it happening, and there's no pricing room between the V6 and the SS as there once was to work it in.

Anyway, just my thoughts.

The Z/28 wasn't above or below the SS in the 1st gen. It was built to compete in Trans Am racing. In order for a Z/28 to be built today in the history of the 1st gen, it would probably cost more than an SS for the improved suspension alone, not to mention the possible LS7 power.

The SS was above the Z/28 in the 4th gen LS1 cars because it was an after thought. It started out as an after market add on to the Z/28 but was later a factory option.
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Old 09-14-2012, 05:35 PM   #109
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Could someone be so kind to explain what the signifigance behind the Z28 is? What is the difference between the Z28 and the SS? I have done my own research, but I know you guys know your camaros so I wanted to ask.
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Old 09-14-2012, 06:25 PM   #110
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1LE + Gen5 LS7 Replacement = Z28.
With all due respects to Pedders and their suspension components installed on my 2010SS, how cool would it be to have my n/a LS7 with its 7100+ RPM redline in an 1LE Camaro.....ooh, wait a minute, add close ratio 6-speed, 3.91 gears and stir.....hmmmmmmmmm
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Old 09-14-2012, 07:35 PM   #111
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Could someone be so kind to explain what the signifigance behind the Z28 is? What is the difference between the Z28 and the SS? I have done my own research, but I know you guys know your camaros so I wanted to ask.

In a nutshell....



"What's important to remember about the Z/28 is how unique its mission was. While the rest of the Camaro lineup was designed and built around standard street car parameters (a trait Car and Driver referred to as "a polished lack of character"), the Z/28 was produced to homologate a race car package; the parts selected fell within higher specifications not usually used by Detroit carmakers. By doing so, Chevrolet, unwittingly or not, came close to building one of the best American sports sedans ever made. "With the Z/28," Car and Driver observed, "Chevy is on the way toward making the gutsy stormer the Camaro should have been in the first place."



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Old 09-14-2012, 07:57 PM   #112
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In a nutshell....



"What's important to remember about the Z/28 is how unique its mission was. While the rest of the Camaro lineup was designed and built around standard street car parameters (a trait Car and Driver referred to as "a polished lack of character"), the Z/28 was produced to homologate a race car package; the parts selected fell within higher specifications not usually used by Detroit carmakers. By doing so, Chevrolet, unwittingly or not, came close to building one of the best American sports sedans ever made. "With the Z/28," Car and Driver observed, "Chevy is on the way toward making the gutsy stormer the Camaro should have been in the first place."



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Thanks a lot for your reply! Iv always been fascinated with the camaro history and only being 27 iv only been around the 5 gen. Thanks!
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Old 09-14-2012, 08:27 PM   #113
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ZL1 = ZR1
Z28 = Z06
1LE = Grand Sport
SS = Base Vette

Edit: Why was this moved out of the Z/28 forum to the SS/LS/LT forum?
This is how I see it as well if it appears as a 5th gen, maybe a 1LE with a warmed over LS3. Theres no way GM is going to invest in trying to make the 5th gen lighter and the LS7 is effectively dead. My bet with only the 2014 model left to come out before the 6th gen, is that the z28 is a no show til then.
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Old 09-14-2012, 08:47 PM   #114
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Old 09-14-2012, 09:52 PM   #115
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They did it in 2009 also?

http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?...007:gcj1n2.2.4

and no z28.
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Old 09-14-2012, 10:49 PM   #116
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With all the expectation behind the Z28, why would this writer suggest that it might NOT outmuscle the ZL1?? And saying that it might replace the current SS? Come on. Really?

I can see Chevrolet offering all of the current trim levels and then adding the Z28 perhaps, but I definitely don't think it will replace the SS. Maybe the ZL1, but not the SS. And we all know that the 1LE is not its own car, like the ZL1. Its an option package for the SS. No, I think the Camaro will be like the Corvette. The Vette currently has what? Four different trim options? You've got the base Corvette, the Grand Sport, the Z06 and the ZR1. It wouldn't be a stretch for the Camaro to have as many with the V6, SS, ZL1 and Z28.
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Old 09-14-2012, 10:50 PM   #117
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wouldn't they already have trademarks to Z28??
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Old 09-14-2012, 11:06 PM   #118
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Did not read thru the entire thread - but can tell you that GM is trademarking various nameplates and brand names -- Z28 happens to be one of many.
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Old 09-14-2012, 11:24 PM   #119
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Maybe they'll make the Z28 higher than the ZL1. After all, they need an answer to Ford's GT500....
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Old 09-14-2012, 11:27 PM   #120
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It may also be that Chevy is renewing their patent on the Z28 name. It may mean nothing.

I'm sure Pepsi renews the name Pepsi Clear but it doesn't mean they plan to bring it back. Personally I don't think there's a place for the Z28 and if they did bring it back they will be shooting themselves in the foot.

ZL1=high end camaro with the most HP (GT500)
SS =middle ground. Quick but not the fastest (GT)
LS =smaller motor and better gas mileage with the basic styling of the SS (LX)
1LE= light weight track edition for the weekend warriors (BOSS 302)

We all know the Camaro and Mustang are always going head to head. Why would GM add anything else to the mix unless it's some special edition with low production numbers.
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Old 09-15-2012, 01:17 AM   #121
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Where's it fit in the lineup?? Above or below the ZL1?

I'd think below but the 1LE kinda took that spot so I don't know where the thunder could be personally.

Just curious how the public receives it.....
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between the 1le and zl1. the z28 could be a 1le with an ls7 at about $45,000
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Old 09-15-2012, 01:44 AM   #122
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Maybe 2017 will have the 50th anniversary Z after all... it will be mine. Oh yes.
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Old 09-15-2012, 02:03 AM   #123
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I am really hoping that the Z28 will be something really over the top; something that may even make the mighty ZL1 humble.

I know that sounds a bit far fetched, but if it turns out to be true, I for one will have my 2SS shined up and ready to trade!

To me, that would be the only status that would be worthy of the rebirth of the Z28 moniker; to be the absolute undisputed king of all modern day muscle for years to come!
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Old 09-15-2012, 07:35 AM   #124
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Where's it fit in the lineup??
Would it be selfish to say, I am more concerned about where it will fit in my garage ! We already have 2 and are looking to sell the wife's SS for a Convertible ZL1....how many Camaro's can one person have .....
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Old 09-15-2012, 08:02 AM   #125
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1LE + Gen5 LS7 Replacement = Z28.


That's what a 5th gen Z28 should be. Without even looking back to previous gens.
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