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Old 09-13-2012, 06:10 PM   #1
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Could a Z28 be more powerful than a ZL1?

Just read an article that GM has trademarked the Z28 and that there is speculation that it could be more powerful than the ZL1. What do you think? I hope now. Either way...I'm keeping my ZL1.

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/09/13/g...ation-for-z28/
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Old 09-13-2012, 06:17 PM   #2
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No...

Z/28 needs to be naturally aspirated. Like the Z06. See my Camaro / Corvette lineup comparo below.

Camaro / Corvette
SS / Base
1LE / Grand Sport
Z/28 / Z06
ZL1 / ZR1

Now, could a Z/28 be faster on a road course with a bunch of turns and short straightaways (not many long straights), yes, due to the weight being a good bit less than the ZL1. But faster in a straight line, or a race track with some long straights? No.
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Old 09-13-2012, 06:26 PM   #3
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Old 09-13-2012, 07:06 PM   #4
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t there is speculation that it could be more powerful than the ZL1. hat do you think?

It wont be more powerful..... But that doesn't mean it wont be faster.
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Old 09-13-2012, 09:45 PM   #5
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The ZL1 should remain the Top Camaro as its always been. The Z28 should be worked in on the Gen 6, just to satisfy all the people that want to see the name revived.
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Old 09-14-2012, 02:48 PM   #6
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The ZL1 should remain the Top Camaro as its always been. The Z28 should be worked in on the Gen 6, just to satisfy all the people that want to see the name revived.
There are TWO camps at work, here:

1) Those that want a BADGE, be it Z28, or Z/28

2) The "true believers" who want a Z/28 fashioned after a Gen-1 Camaro (as the current one is somewhat faithful to, appearance-wise) that bears genuine naturally-aspirated abilities well beyond a mere SS, or even a current 1LE.

The parts exist. The "recipe" exists. The "menu" has a defined place, price-wise. The "chef" awaits an order.

More powerful? No. Very capable? Yes, very.
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Old 09-14-2012, 02:53 PM   #7
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Old 09-14-2012, 03:04 PM   #8
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No, the Z should be the canyon cutter it was. Not the Alpha dog.
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Old 09-14-2012, 04:21 PM   #9
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None of us want just a badge. Too many younger car guys have seen just emblems and badges carelessly placed on cars over the past 3 decades for marketing purposes only. Scott has assured us that will not happen again with the Z/28. The fast and loose useage of the Z/28 moniker isn't going to happen. Heck, we can live with a 1LE nameplate, badge, or emblem (even badgeless like Lowdown suggests if need be) if they would only put the LS7 in the current 1LE setup. The ZL1 will remain, as long as it is built, the top 'o the line ship. Z/28 will follow suit. Z/28 will live longer than the ZL1 name. It's storied, it's legendary, and it's the face of Camaro. I'm just an OG....., and that's my O2.
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Old 09-14-2012, 04:29 PM   #10
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Who has proof that there is going to be a new Z28? Trademarking the name is in no way an indicator of a future Z28 Camaro. It simply GM gives more latitude with the brand. Nothing more, nothing less.
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If there is a Z28, it will have a high reving NA engine like the current Z06.
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Old 09-14-2012, 05:06 PM   #12
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The Z28 would really just be a 1le with an LS7 in it.

without new engine choices you would have to put the LS9 in to trump it HP wise.

I would love to see what a 1le with an LS7 would do. I bet it would come close to ZL1 on the track. with its lower gearing it may do similar in a strait line as well.

I loved the powere of my Z06 that motor just worked well IMO.
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In my opinion if the Z28 materializes, it will have the 327 engine from the COPO De-tuned, high RPM small block just like the original............ JRJ
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Old 09-14-2012, 05:19 PM   #14
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GM has already stated many times that the ZL1 will be the top dog.
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Old 09-14-2012, 05:35 PM   #15
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In my opinion if the Z28 materializes, it will have the 327 engine from the COPO De-tuned, high RPM small block just like the original............ JRJ
The original had a small displacement engine due to the racing regulations. Why limit it to a small engine if there are no rules to follow now?
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Old 09-14-2012, 08:16 PM   #16
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In my opinion if the Z28 materializes, it will have the 327 engine from the COPO De-tuned, high RPM small block just like the original............ JRJ
GM certifies motors. It's a time consuming and lengthy, costly process. At this point in the game it is highly unlikely GM will introduce any new motor, in the LS family, or otherwise, for factory production and wide distribution until the new DI family arrives. So, all things being equal, if a Gen 5 Z28 comes out, the only logical choice is a LS7. What's been said is the next generation will have either a 6.2L or 5.3L engine (325 CID), and have direct injection. Other rumors abound for a TT 6 cylinder, etc.. It will be interesting to see what power combinations will be offered as a standard V8, and high performance V8, for the Camaro and Corvette, and what models will be continued in both lines. I haven't a clue of foggy notion exactly what they are cooking up. Whatever it is, it's new, and game changing. Nothing like what we have now.
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Old 09-14-2012, 08:42 PM   #17
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I would bet the Z28 will come out as a 6th gen two years after the C7 corvette comes out. The engine will be a smaller 5.0~5.3 direct injection with similar power to today’s LS3, but slightly less than the C7 corvette due to the Camaro’s slightly smaller air filter and slightly smaller mufflers. The big jump will be the 6th gen Camaro is 500~600 lbs. lighter than the current 5th gen, so it will be a great road course car a la the name Z28.
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Old 09-14-2012, 09:24 PM   #18
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All I know is that it would be a shame to being CAMARO back into the lineup and not have Z28 in there. Stuff LS7 in ZL1 and let's show the real BOSS
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