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Old 06-01-2009, 11:58 PM   #76
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No shops give up there cam specs right away, One thing I can tell you and Steven can correct me if I'm wrong LMR's dyno is conservative.

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Old 06-02-2009, 01:40 AM   #77
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LMR has long passed the status of filling anyones void.
wow. I don't know what that means, but it sounds painfull for you camaro folk
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Old 06-02-2009, 06:34 AM   #78
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Sorry guys, but there is going to be many tuner shops out there trying to come up with the same results as us. Giving away cam specs so early in development is kinda shooting our selves in the foot. Anyone interested in our packages can feel free to call me at the shop. Every customer has a different goal/needs for his/her car so the cam selection will be determined by each car with the setup.
Like I said before, telling someone 23x/23x on a range of LSA doesn't give away anything...You have to know IVO/IVC EVO/EVC cam lobe design, etc...I think it is a fair question to tell folks a general idea of how much duration it is taking to achieve those hp/tq #'s. For those of us who daily drive their cars, it is helpful, because there are cam size limits some of us have, for daily drivability.

That's cool that you don't want to share the info, I appreciate you telling us so we'll quit asking. I'm just glad to have so many shops working hard to develop quality performance parts. I'm just giving some customer feedback that we'd like to know what general size ranges make how much power.

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Old 06-02-2009, 05:49 PM   #79
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Like I said before, telling someone 23x/23x on a range of LSA doesn't give away anything...You have to know IVO/IVC EVO/EVC cam lobe design, etc...I think it is a fair question to tell folks a general idea of how much duration it is taking to achieve those hp/tq #'s. For those of us who daily drive their cars, it is helpful, because there are cam size limits some of us have, for daily drivability.

That's cool that you don't want to share the info, I appreciate you telling us so we'll quit asking. I'm just glad to have so many shops working hard to develop quality performance parts. I'm just giving some customer feedback that we'd like to know what general size ranges make how much power.

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I understand completely. Our stage 2 cam is around 22x 23x duration and close to .600 lift. Hope that helps a little.
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Old 06-02-2009, 07:36 PM   #80
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I understand completely. Our stage 2 cam is around 22x 23x duration and close to .600 lift. Hope that helps a little.
Yes it does, that's really pretty streetable (depending upon LSA and lobes) for a 6.2L motor...it will chop a little, but with good tuning, should be reasonable on the street.

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Old 06-02-2009, 09:01 PM   #81
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Im positive 18's will not fit over those rear brakes.
wow, that would suck. haven't heard of anyone trying yet.
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31000 for ss1 no options and who in the hell would buy a SS1 V6 for kids SS1 for girls LS3 the only way to go G8 Gxp 200lbs more my bad so lets think here 200lb more 27 less hp so 5 tenths slower now 373 gear now mabe 3tenths slower 4 door car sad so so sad
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Yes it does, that's really pretty streetable (depending upon LSA and lobes) for a 6.2L motor...it will chop a little, but with good tuning, should be reasonable on the street.

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Exactly, that is what we were going for. Our stage 2 cam will be for the everyday drivers that want great mid range power and a choppy idle without having to sacriface any drivability loss. Driving this thing on the hwy in 6th gear at 1200 rpms is no problem. This car drives absolutely GREAT! Never have to worry about rpms jumping around on you when coming to a stop.
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Old 06-03-2009, 10:08 PM   #83
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Somebody had to step up and fill the void that MTI left in Houston.
MTI in houston was a great facility, but they were known for more of just bolting on parts instead of custom fabrication work and real race car stuff which we do quite a bit of including our normal street packages.

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Old 06-07-2009, 04:38 PM   #84
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Good power . Did they change rocker arms with the stage 3 cam?
Still running factory rocker arms.
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Old 06-07-2009, 06:38 PM   #85
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LMR...how much more hp can be made with a "hotter" cam? To give up "some" streetability, can a much bigger hp number be had? That cam there sounds VERY nice!
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Old 06-07-2009, 09:33 PM   #86
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LMR...how much more hp can be made with a "hotter" cam? To give up "some" streetability, can a much bigger hp number be had? That cam there sounds VERY nice!
Our stage 2 cam is the cam you are hearing in the idle video. We will be installing a few more different cams this week on customer cars. I will make sure and get idle and dyno clips to show all of you. The 500+rwhp cam is as large as I would go on a car that is going to be driven on the street. It likes to be driven over 1400rpms. The stage 2 cam, like the one you hear in the video drives almost like stock. I put it in 6th gear and can cruise at 1k rpms!
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Old 06-09-2009, 07:24 PM   #87
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wow, that would suck. haven't heard of anyone trying yet.
We tried installing a set of 19in C5Z06 wheels with no luck.
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Are you recommending this install for Fresh, or Broken In engines?


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Old 06-09-2009, 07:57 PM   #89
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Our car only had 100 miles on the odometer at time of install. Either way will be fine.
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do you plan on add intake manifold and ported heads just to see what the hp outcome would be? and if not could you please do it to satisfy my curiosity? lol
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hmmm....procharger or street stalker pkg......
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Old 06-13-2009, 06:31 AM   #92
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We tried installing a set of 19in C5Z06 wheels with no luck.
What exactly didn't work?
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do you plan on add intake manifold and ported heads just to see what the hp outcome would be? and if not could you please do it to satisfy my curiosity? lol
As soon as the new FAST 102mm intake is available I will install it with a set of cylinder heads just for you!
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about 60 more rwhp as a stock z06.
Yeah but don't forget to say about 800lbs more weight and skinnier tires
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Old 06-14-2009, 04:10 PM   #95
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Yeah but don't forget to say about 800lbs more weight and skinnier tires
Yea, that is the only down fall. I really wish GM made this car weigh in at 3500lbs. It would FLY!
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Our stage 2 cam is the cam you are hearing in the idle video. We will be installing a few more different cams this week on customer cars. I will make sure and get idle and dyno clips to show all of you. The 500+rwhp cam is as large as I would go on a car that is going to be driven on the street. It likes to be driven over 1400rpms. The stage 2 cam, like the one you hear in the video drives almost like stock. I put it in 6th gear and can cruise at 1k rpms!
How much more hp with between the two cams? 1400 rpms isn't that bad to deal with staying above. You tried 19" wheels and they wouldn't fit? WOW, I'm surprised about that. I wish it weighed about 3500 also! Time to look into where to cut weight...carbon fiber hood for one! I was hoping smaller wheels would fit to cut rotating mass....skinnies up front! Looking forward to a nice 525-550rwhp!
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Awesome numbers by the way. Congrats LMR
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would it be possilbe to raise the redline to say 8k? would there be any hp gain rom doing that? Im Asking cuz I would like to put some 4.10 gears on it and i i could bump up the redline at bit it would help with 1/4 and autocrossing and not running out of room in 4th and 5th on the straights.
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wow sorry quite a few typos there but I think you can understand what I am asking
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