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Old 09-13-2012, 09:42 PM   #1
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Talking ZL1 on Meth!

Finally got my new controller installed and went for a few pulls with my good buddy JR, Seems we have found a much more powerful tune with the meth Heading to the track this weekend with a new tire set up as well. Stoked to see how she runs! Initial pulls for the tune says 15 mph increase the 1/4 mile. Should be a blast!!!

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Old 09-14-2012, 03:16 AM   #2
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Old 09-14-2012, 09:08 AM   #3
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I changed the air box out for an Airaid system. That, the water/meth injection, and an awesome tuner is all that has been done to this one. I am trying out a set of Mickey Thompsons on 18s and 6" skinnys up front this weekend. Definately should be running in the 11s. I already have a best pass of 12.35 @ 117 on stock tires and no meth.
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Old 09-14-2012, 06:06 PM   #5
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I have thought that meth would help these cars allot. Good luck.
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Old 09-14-2012, 06:21 PM   #6
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Finally got my new controller installed and went for a few pulls with my good buddy JR, Seems we have found a much more powerful tune with the meth Heading to the track this weekend with a new tire set up as well. Stoked to see how she runs! Initial pulls for the tune says 15 mph increase the 1/4 mile. Should be a blast!!!

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I changed the air box out for an Airaid system. That, the water/meth injection, and an awesome tuner is all that has been done to this one. I am trying out a set of Mickey Thompsons on 18s and 6" skinnys up front this weekend. Definately should be running in the 11s. I already have a best pass of 12.35 @ 117 on stock tires and no meth.

So the car made 464 rwhp with just the air raid and made 578 rwhp with only adding meth?


How is the car making 13 psi with the stock pulleys?
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Old 09-14-2012, 06:40 PM   #7
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So the car made 464 rwhp with just the air raid and made 578 rwhp with only adding meth?


How is the car making 13 psi with the stock pulleys?
2+2=5???????
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Old 09-14-2012, 06:44 PM   #8
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2+2=5???????
I thought that added up to 7. Those sheets have way to much information for me but I know that you won't get 15mph in the 1/4 by adding meth. Even if you tuned it for power. Which isn't smart. If meth gains were that great everyone would run it. I'm just making sure the OP isn't being given a bunch of false info.
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Old 09-14-2012, 06:50 PM   #9
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Somthing doesn't seem right?
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I'm adding meth tonight. Looking forward to trapping 150 mph+!!


73 rwhp on tune alone is false.

A lot of things look fishy.

The tuner hasn't a clue. Above the meth chart he states the the weather was 20 degrees hotter than the stock N/A tune. Wow
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Old 09-16-2012, 03:54 AM   #11
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Looking good, will probably add meth to my Z when finish my current build and have some numbers. One of the best things you can do on a supercharged application.
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Back from the track....had a bit of a problem with a kinked hose and a leaky fitting. All in all for the system not working right it still worked in a way. She did not run what I though she should (thus the investigation into the problem) but ran better than ever and in the heat. I video'd the runs to figure out some more. The 60' was still off, now that I have it hooked up I need to preload the suspension a bit better and leave with a bit more RPM. Still ran 119 mph in the heat...would have been 114 in the same temps before.

I have since rerouted some of my lines and have no more leaks or tight bends. Full pressure for me now! Back to the track Saturday for our super shifter race. I think I have the bugs worked out now, going for that 11 second pass right out of the box!

As a side note...if you purchase the SNOW PERFORMANCE system you are going to need some help. The instrucions are absolutly worthless...I have already been through the headaches with them...the tech could not even answer my questions? With that said, I do know that you can get it to work and I do know how...now. So, more than happy to help.
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Old 09-17-2012, 10:09 PM   #13
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So the car made 464 rwhp with just the air raid and made 578 rwhp with only adding meth?


How is the car making 13 psi with the stock pulleys?
She has made 13 psi from the first tune...Why do you question me when I gave you all the info from my tuner? This is not a scewed dyno, it was all road and load info. Take it for what it is!
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Old 09-17-2012, 10:15 PM   #14
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I'm adding meth tonight. Looking forward to trapping 150 mph+!!


73 rwhp on tune alone is false.

A lot of things look fishy.

The tuner hasn't a clue. Above the meth chart he states the the weather was 20 degrees hotter than the stock N/A tune. Wow
Hey dumbass, did your mom teach you anything? If you don't have anything nice to say keep your mouth shut!! Talking crap about somebody you know nothing about! My tuner is quite smart and tunes some bad ass shit!! Perhaps you should post some more to make yourself look like you know something...wannabe!!!
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Hey dumbass, did your mom teach you anything? If you don't have anything nice to say keep your mouth shut!! Talking crap about somebody you know nothing about! My tuner is quite smart and tunes some bad ass shit!! Perhaps you should post some more to make yourself look like you know something...wannabe!!!

Supercharged has invested a great amount of money into his car and has a very good technical background.

Fairly his point, and you did not answer it, you can not create more boost by tuning the car but rather changing the pulleys. If you did this, no biggie a lot o ZL1 owners are.


He was merely asking you questions and you did not answer him...
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Old 09-17-2012, 11:24 PM   #16
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Supercharged has invested a great amount of money into his car and has a very good technical background.

Fairly his point, and you did not answer it, you can not create more boost by tuning the car but rather changing the pulleys. If you did this, no biggie a lot o ZL1 owners are.


He was merely asking you questions and you did not answer him...
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Old 09-17-2012, 11:49 PM   #17
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Hey dumbass, did your mom teach you anything? If you don't have anything nice to say keep your mouth shut!! Talking crap about somebody you know nothing about! My tuner is quite smart and tunes some bad ass shit!! Perhaps you should post some more to make yourself look like you know something...wannabe!!!
You're an idiot. Do everyone on the forum a favor and stick a shotgun in your mouth. Superchargedss has a full weight car that runs 9's on stock displacement, suspension and for the most part drivetrain. Something I'm pretty sure your car will never do.

So quit acting like you're all big and bad because you drive a ZL1 thats slower then most peoples SS's on this forum. You are just making yourself look like a moron.
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Hey dumbass, did your mom teach you anything? If you don't have anything nice to say keep your mouth shut!! Talking crap about somebody you know nothing about! My tuner is quite smart and tunes some bad ass shit!! Perhaps you should post some more to make yourself look like you know something...wannabe!!!
Seems like someone didn't get his nap today.....
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I'm just making sure the OP isn't being given a bunch of false info.
happens all the time (just looking out)


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Seems like someone didn't get his nap today.....
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I'm adding meth tonight. Looking forward to trapping 150 mph+!!


73 rwhp on tune alone is false.

A lot of things look fishy.

The tuner hasn't a clue. Above the meth chart he states the the weather was 20 degrees hotter than the stock N/A tune. Wow
I for one can tell you that I believe his results they are not far fetched by any means.

I added meth to my ZR1 and the car picked up 100 HP and 125 TQ at 4000 rpm properly tuned of course.
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Old 09-18-2012, 10:30 AM   #21
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Back from the track....had a bit of a problem with a kinked hose and a leaky fitting. All in all for the system not working right it still worked in a way. She did not run what I though she should (thus the investigation into the problem) but ran better than ever and in the heat. I video'd the runs to figure out some more. The 60' was still off, now that I have it hooked up I need to preload the suspension a bit better and leave with a bit more RPM. Still ran 119 mph in the heat...would have been 114 in the same temps before.

I have since rerouted some of my lines and have no more leaks or tight bends. Full pressure for me now! Back to the track Saturday for our super shifter race. I think I have the bugs worked out now, going for that 11 second pass right out of the box!

As a side note...if you purchase the SNOW PERFORMANCE system you are going to need some help. The instrucions are absolutly worthless...I have already been through the headaches with them...the tech could not even answer my questions? With that said, I do know that you can get it to work and I do know how...now. So, more than happy to help.
Would you be able to post the slip from this pass?

Any chance you logged the run and can share that info?

Thanks.
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Simple Facts

ZL-1 Stock make 465 RWHP with an Auto in the Heat at 8 PSI boost.

No ZL-1 comes with 13 PSI boost and Makes 465 RWHP

Change Pulleys to get 13 PSI boost, Tune accordingly and you get 565 RWHP give or take 5 RWHP.

Water Meth Puts the Fire out you must add timing and Lean out Fueling to gain power BACK Plus a few ponies.

Pump Fails Engine Fails

Cars with Intercoolers do not Benefit from Water Meth as well as cars with superchargers and No intercooler system.

Race Gas or Torco is a safer more consistent alternative.

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Simple Facts

ZL-1 Stock make 465 RWHP with an Auto in the Heat at 8 PSI boost.

No ZL-1 comes with 13 PSI boost and Makes 465 RWHP

Change Pulleys to get 13 PSI boost, Tune accordingly and you get 565 RWHP give or take 5 RWHP.

Water Meth Puts the Fire out you must add timing and Lean out Fueling to gain power BACK Plus a few ponies.

Pump Fails Engine Fails

Cars with Intercoolers do not Benefit from Water Meth as well as cars with superchargers and No intercooler system.

Race Gas or Torco is a safer more consistent alternative.

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Dont use water/meth. Use Meth only.

Meth builds the fire, lean the car out accordingly add timing make more power, buy a quality meth kit that can run meth only and has a quality pump. Replace the pump every season or two depending on driving as regular maintenance and precautionary measures.

Add race gas to this combo and make some more power.

I kind of get tired of hearing if the pump stops working the engine fails. How many other things can stop working and cause possible engine failures? Oil pump, fuel pump, valve retainers, and on and on and on.
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Dont use water/meth. Use Meth only.

Meth builds the fire, lean the car out accordingly add timing make more power, buy a quality meth kit that can run meth only and has a quality pump. Replace the pump every season or two depending on driving as regular maintenance and precautionary measures.

Add race gas to this combo and make some more power.

I kind of get tired of hearing if the pump stops working the engine fails. How many other things can stop working and cause possible engine failures? Oil pump, fuel pump, valve retainers, and on and on and on.
If your Tired you should take a Nap.

This is a reality whether your tired or not.

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If your Tired you should take a Nap.

This is a reality whether your tired or not.

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Its actually that time of day and very rainy here in the Northeast. Anything can fail and cause engine failure Ted. You know this. That shouldn't be a reason to deter people from tuning the car for methanol. S**t happens sometimes.
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