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Old 01-08-2008, 10:15 PM   #1
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Leno and his C6RS

A must watch for any Vette/GM/Muscle Car nut...

http://http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/video/video_player.shtml?vid=198579
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Old 01-08-2008, 11:30 PM   #2
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Ironic, I never watch the tonight show, but I'm watching it as I type now.

Man that Vette is slick.. Really can't wait for the ZR-1 though.
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Old 01-08-2008, 11:56 PM   #3
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looks pretty clean. I'm loving the ZR-1 flares where the ducts are behind the door. Dunno if that's z06 as well but they're great. Able to run on E85 or Gas is great too.
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Old 01-09-2008, 01:08 AM   #4
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looks pretty clean. I'm loving the ZR-1 flares where the ducts are behind the door. Dunno if that's z06 as well but they're great. Able to run on E85 or Gas is great too.
she does straight ethanol too or any mixture...wonder how much that costs?
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Old 01-09-2008, 01:25 AM   #5
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What I like is what he said about ethanol/gas percentages. I don't know EXACTLY how E85 works, but I would hope that's how it works...you filler up on E85 at your local station, drive for a week, need to fill up but can only use gas, fill up on E85 next week, at half a tank add straight gas, etc. Basically, you should be able to use gas/E85 whenever you want. And, if you are saving the environment, helping out our economy, and saving a couple dollars yourselves, even better.
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Old 01-09-2008, 01:33 AM   #6
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not necessarily saving money as you get less mpg with e85. If the price drops even more it might counteract the drop in mpg enough to save you money in the long run.
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Old 01-09-2008, 02:36 AM   #7
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He’s such a down to earth guy… I'd love to spend a day with him BS’n about cars…
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Old 01-09-2008, 03:17 AM   #8
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I like Leno. I noticed he's got a few more cars in his garage.
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Old 01-09-2008, 07:47 AM   #9
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not necessarily saving money as you get less mpg with e85. If the price drops even more it might counteract the drop in mpg enough to save you money in the long run.
I think ethanol (not E85), is at 2.50 a gallon as it stands today. As production increases, and Cellulosic Ethanol takes off, it will lower even more.
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Old 01-09-2008, 08:39 AM   #10
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Anyone else envious of the fact that he has a Corvette section in his garage?
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Old 01-09-2008, 08:54 AM   #11
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I keep hearing that we can't produce enough corn (or whatever else we can make Ethanol from) to support the demand enough to replace gas/foreign oil.

Any one else have info on this?
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Old 01-09-2008, 09:31 AM   #12
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I keep hearing that we can't produce enough corn (or whatever else we can make Ethanol from) to support the demand enough to replace gas/foreign oil.

Any one else have info on this?
Yeah, Corn is reaching it's limit. That's where Switchgrass starts coming into the picture. But ethanol will NEVER completely replace Gasoline/oil: It's impossible. But that's not it's goal. Ethanol is to be a part of our energy solution.

I think the initial numbers is that if we utilized the majority of available land in our country. We could produce enough ethanol to replace around 30% of our gasoine useage. That number can only go up, as planting, and land-use efficiency goes up. And that doesn't factor in change in our transportation efficiency.

Now, imagine lots of vehicles with the E-flex technology, or similar (i.e. potential for fuel-less travel). Then later on as the tech gets improved, and upgraded....well, you get the picture: We will need to use less fuel anyways. So that 30% grows to 40%, and 50%, and 60% - beacuse there's less fuel to displace. So Ethanol can become a very large portion of the solution. Along with Biodiesel, and Hydrogen, and God-knows whatelse they come up with.
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It may be possibly, but it would probably eat up all the remaining land that could be used for farming, and also drive the price of corn, or sugar, or any other food that is used for fuel. Thats why other sources of to make fuel, including cellulose and algae
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OK. So, are we all cool with eventually getting away from the internal combustion engine? It sounds like most of us accept that cars will eventually be powered by something else, solar, batteries, hydrogen, air.

I accept that there is an argument this will be for the greater good. However, I want exhaust noise and clutch dust and supercharged small blocks that sounds like a cat getting sucked down the toilet. (I love cats btw). I know that I may not see it in my lifetime. But I'm not comfortable with the thought of the IC engines going away (regardless of the fuel they burn). Doesn't seem like a performance car without it. I've seen video of electric cars that absolutely FLY. So I admit it's not a performance issue. It's a seat of the pants (pucker factor) thing.

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One more thought on corn farming - Isn't there still a large portion of corn farmers getting Gov subsidies for not planting corn? if they removed the subsidy and started planting again would it make that much of a difference?
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Yeah, Corn is reaching it's limit. That's where Switchgrass starts coming into the picture. But ethanol will NEVER completely replace Gasoline/oil: It's impossible. But that's not it's goal. Ethanol is to be a part of our energy solution.

I think the initial numbers is that if we utilized the majority of available land in our country. We could produce enough ethanol to replace around 30% of our gasoine useage. That number can only go up, as planting, and land-use efficiency goes up. And that doesn't factor in change in our transportation efficiency.

Now, imagine lots of vehicles with the E-flex technology, or similar (i.e. potential for fuel-less travel). Then later on as the tech gets improved, and upgraded....well, you get the picture: We will need to use less fuel anyways. So that 30% grows to 40%, and 50%, and 60% - beacuse there's less fuel to displace. So Ethanol can become a very large portion of the solution. Along with Biodiesel, and Hydrogen, and God-knows whatelse they come up with.
Well said, well said. My only question is whether or not E85 capable cars can also be ran on cellulosic ethanol??? Now that might be a stupid question, but I'm just wondering. I mean if plants are being used in either scenario included with alcohol and a small amount of petrol I don't see why not??? Maybe I just answered my own question???
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Old 01-09-2008, 05:11 PM   #16
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Well said, well said. My only question is whether or not E85 capable cars can also be ran on cellulosic ethanol??? Now that might be a stupid question, but I'm just wondering. I mean if plants are being used in either scenario included with alcohol and a small amount of petrol I don't see why not??? Maybe I just answered my own question???
Sort of. It's a common misperception because of the name. The ethanol you get from Corn is made using the sugars from the corn itself. Whereas Cellulosic ethanol is made via the cellulose in the plant-matter (i.e. stalks, leaves...the crap that is usually thrown away anyways). But the end result is Ethanol, no differences but the process.
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Old 01-09-2008, 08:49 PM   #17
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I think its funny how Leno mentions Pat Boone's deal with Chevy and yet it sounds like he too has a similar deal. He made several comments in that video regarding the stock Z06 being a highly capable car without the RS mods. Anyone know if Leno has a secret deal with GM to portray their cars in a favorable light?
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Old 01-10-2008, 02:10 PM   #18
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I love Jay's cars but I have to say that I was immediately turned off when Jay said "We're in the Corvette section of my garage..."

Corvette SECTION!!!!!???????

Come on. No one should be able to have that many killer cars when most of us can't even afford one!







(Okay so maybe I'm just a bit jealous.)
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