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Old 09-15-2012, 08:33 PM   #1
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ZL1 vs Ford Flex?

Got a chance to line our 2011 Ford Flex up against a BRAND NEW ZL1! This is the first one I've run against. The ZL1 only had about 250 miles on it (or so I heard). He still had the paper plate in the back window (but had a metal plate too)




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Old 09-15-2012, 08:47 PM   #2
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I noticed that I cannot see any vids on here anymore!! What gives? it shows a white box with an ! in the middle
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Old 09-15-2012, 10:24 PM   #3
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That is one QUICK brick!!!! Good run all things considering.
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Old 09-16-2012, 08:03 AM   #4
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That is one QUICK brick!!!! Good run all things considering.
LOL! Thanks!
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More fuel for that 392 ZL1 argument!
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Old 09-16-2012, 09:04 AM   #6
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More fuel for that 392 ZL1 argument!

I think a 12.51 @ 115 mph - DA corrected 12.3 @ 117 mph is a decent time for some average Joe.

Thats with a real slow 2.1 sec 60' (you can hear the wheel spin going down the track at the beginning of the race).

I'm going to need to start filming the 392s at our track. Boy I could add some serious fuel to the SS (not ZL1) vs 392 agruement.
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Old 09-16-2012, 09:21 AM   #7
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I think a 12.51 @ 115 mph - DA corrected 12.3 @ 117 mph is a decent time for some average Joe.

Thats with a real slow 2.1 sec 60' (you can hear the wheel spin going down the track at the beginning of the race).

I'm going to need to start filming the 392s at our track. Boy I could add some serious fuel to the SS (not ZL1) vs 392 agruement.
Tires are the big deal here. Both are heavy cars and will do their best to separate the Owners from the Drivers. Shouldn't really be a contest, (ZL1, 392) but big power and questionable traction are the biggest factor here. Sorry for the hijack, I'd like a Silver Flex by the way!
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Old 09-16-2012, 10:06 AM   #8
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I noticed that I cannot see any vids on here anymore!! What gives? it shows a white box with an ! in the middle
Same here but no ! just a white box.
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Old 09-16-2012, 11:37 AM   #9
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Very cool John!! I bet that driver was thinking "what the ****" about halfway down the track lol.
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Oh yeah, I left out great run Scrming.
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Old 09-16-2012, 01:50 PM   #11
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Very cool John!! I bet that driver was thinking "what the ****" about halfway down the track lol.
I bet was too! LOL!

Thanks!!!

I actually took the top spot for the fastest Flex yesterday with my best run. I ran a 12.89 @ 108! As pointed out the is with a 1400' DA. we should see 0 or negative DAs in the next month or two.
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Old 09-16-2012, 01:52 PM   #12
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Oh yeah, I left out great run Scrming.
Thanks! Some of the squealing might be from me. My TC light was blinking!
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So you pay $30,000 more for a car that's only half a second faster then an SS and a few tenths more then a normal 5.0 ?

I think you are paying more for helium then you realize when buying it.
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Old 09-16-2012, 06:49 PM   #14
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So you pay $30,000 more for a car that's only half a second faster then an SS and a few tenths more then a normal 5.0 ?

I think you are paying more for helium then you realize when buying it.
I going to say the ZL1 is designed for being more than a straight line car...
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Old 09-16-2012, 07:21 PM   #15
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I think a 12.51 @ 115 mph - DA corrected 12.3 @ 117 mph is a decent time for some average Joe.

Thats with a real slow 2.1 sec 60' (you can hear the wheel spin going down the track at the beginning of the race).

I'm going to need to start filming the 392s at our track. Boy I could add some serious fuel to the SS (not ZL1) vs 392 agruement.
ok and I will film all the high 13 sec SS @ Gainesville... Oh wait they have already been posted in threads here on the same day, same track when the 392's run low mid 12's.... ( Srt8Tech) who now owns a Gt500 lol.. My point.. Who cares if your car is faster on paper, if you can't put the power to the ground or drive, you lose....
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I going to say the ZL1 is designed for being more than a straight line car...
Well it's advertised as a muscle car.... it's far too heavy(4,000 lbs) to be considered a sports car, and it's not really what you might call "luxurious". The GT500's chassis is outmatched by it's engine(overpowered, for the capabilities of the chassis) and the ZL1's engine is outmatched by it's engine(underpowered, for the capabilities of it's chassis) IMO.
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Old 09-18-2012, 01:49 PM   #17
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America cars have alway been about straight line performance. zl1 is a great car the performance just doesnt add up considering the price
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Old 09-25-2012, 02:46 PM   #18
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America cars have alway been about straight line performance. zl1 is a great car the performance just doesnt add up considering the price
It doesn't.....until you put drag radials on the car.
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one guy just ran a 12 flat @ 121 mph with a bone stock zl1. that's more like it.
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Couple months ago we a few of us were at the track playing with one of my buddies 2010 Z06 automatic.Between 4 of us NO ONE was able to get out of the 12's.

I believe torque managnent was killing us that night, when launching the car would take off and fall flat on it's face.
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I just happened to notice this

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I just happened to notice this
How did you get that picture of my dashboard!!
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Old 09-28-2012, 05:30 AM   #22
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I going to say the ZL1 is designed for being more than a straight line car...
I think people realize that, but just expect a little more out of a car with 580hp. I'm really starting to see more and more that it does not take much for an SS to run pretty close (Not beat) with these ZL1's. Last year at Lapeer on a 70 degree day I ran a best of 12.52. My best MPH was 115.1 (stock tires). All I had was LT's, CAI, and tune. In reality that is what a lot of members on here are comparing a lot of these ZL1 times to because so many have the same mods and more that I have done.

By the way your Flex runs awesome. I think I would be afraid to line up to you. One screw up on my part and the race would be yours. I keep showing my buddies at work (GM) your videos and they cannot believe it. What's left in mods for your Flex that you can do?
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Old 09-28-2012, 05:39 AM   #23
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I think people realize that, but just expect a little more out of a car with 580hp. I'm really starting to see more and more that it does not take much for an SS to run pretty close (Not beat) with these ZL1's. Last year at Lapeer on a 70 degree day I ran a best of 12.52. My best MPH was 115.1 (stock tires). All I had was LT's, CAI, and tune. In reality that is what a lot of members on here are comparing a lot of these ZL1 times to because so many have the same mods and more that I have done.

By the way your Flex runs awesome. I think I would be afraid to line up to you. One screw up on my part and the race would be yours. I keep showing my buddies at work (GM) your videos and they cannot believe it. What's left in mods for your Flex that you can do?
Thanks!

I really don't have any more performance mods planned... but in theory I could put in a 3 BAR MAP sensor and turn the boost up a little bit more... Right now I'm only hitting about 15 PSI... I believe the motor could easily handle 17 PSI... But for now, i'll just be sticking with the 15...
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Awesome vid...cant remember. But do the ecoboost come with upgraded pistons and rods over the regular 3.5?
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