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Old 09-18-2012, 11:44 AM   #1
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Anyone moved to JEEP srt8 (or driven one) to ZL-1 ?

Alright, so here it is!

I have a '10 Jeep SRT8 and as you all know its a beast! Respected by almost all cars cuz of its crazy launches thanks to the AWD.
Mine is stock, I love it!!!
I seriously love the shape of Camaros but in general I don't like the power of a SS. Cuz I have raced tons of them, mostly stock and they don't really show much power!!! So I don't like them much! ( no offense to anyone, they are great cars! )
Now comes in Zl1 and its just gorgeous ! and i love the power it produces!

what I wanna know is! If anyone has ever driven a Jeep SRT8 (not the new one its slower). The older one you might know that it launches pretty neat and powerfully cuz of the AWD. So after driving that and then launching ZL-1 does it feel any slower? Like I know alot of wheel spin happens so does it feel slower compared to the SRT?

I am asking Cuz I am planning on getting the ZL-1 As soon as it releases here by the end of next month for what the dealer told me 59,000 $ + !
So I might trade in my SRt for a Zl-1. If they have a Black on Black A5 with Nav.


I am kinda looking forward to seeing if the rumor about Challenger getting a 6.2L SuperCharged engine too! Cuz if they come out with a Challenger thats quicker in a line then a ZL-1. then I am going for it! Cuz I have always believed Challengers are the best looking of the three!!
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The 6.2 won't be out for quite some time. I would say 2014 at the earliest. Stock for stock the ZL1 will smoke an SRT Jeep. If your use to driving the awd platform it will have a different feel for sure. For myself, I was never really impressed with the SRT8 Jeeps. I sold mine after only three months of ownership.
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Cuz I have always believed Challengers are the best looking of the three!!
I don't see how, when compared, one can prefer the chubby black car on the left.

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I don't see how, when compared, one can prefer the chubby black car on the left.

I have to agree with the dude prior - the Challenger is a better looking car, imho. Of course, I ordered the ZL1, but the Dodge is gorgeous.
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Old 09-18-2012, 01:25 PM   #5
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I don't see how, when compared, one can prefer the chubby black car on the left.

Comparing the two in that pic, the weight is very close. they are both Chubby. An SS is only 184Lbs less than an R/T. It's the HP difference that means the most. As far as the looks, I love the looks of both. The funny thing is that the Camaro looks bigger in that Pic.
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Old 09-18-2012, 01:38 PM   #6
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i have a jeep srt8 and one of my buddies took me for a ride in his zl1 last weekend. The jeep is easier to launch so it will probably hit 60 before a zl1. because its awd 3.73 grearing and auto trans you cant really mess it up. so to answer the question when my buddy launched his zl1 i wasnt really impressed but when it got going it was moving
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Right now IMO the ZL1 is the better overall car but it cost more. if you really like the looks of the challenger that much better mod one.

when I see that pick above I just see two amazing looking cars. I could go day to day over which one I really like better.

wieght wise it is a wash and the 392 is capable of a similar 1/4 i am sure form a roll it would get smashed. The ZL1 also mods eaier IMO. 3k to 600whp.

handling wise though you will always being playing catch up in the challenger and if you ever did make it is good it would proabbaly ride horrible.
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Comparing the two in that pic, the weight is very close. they are both Chubby. An SS is only 184Lbs less than an R/T. It's the HP difference that means the most. As far as the looks, I love the looks of both...
I realized after I posted that one cannot question aesthetics preference. There is no accounting for "taste". I too, like them both. Which is why I snapped the pic. The "aesthetics" banter is just entertainment.

Chubbiness wise, the reality is that the Challenger is 7 inches longer, 3 inches taller and equally as wide as the ZL1 by published specs. Clearly the Chubby Challenger takes up more space. However, there is irony in calling one or the other "Chubby" because the difference is agreeably, insignificant.

However, while not questioning anyones else's aesthetic preference (again), I humbly feel that the chopped roof, the more aerodynamically angled "C" pillars and rear window, as well as all the other aerodynamic treatments of the ZL1 lend to it looking more "fit" than the Challenger. It just looks more streamlined.

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The funny thing is that the Camaro looks bigger in that Pic.
A crop of each of the vehicles reveals the Challenger is 17 pixels longer and 13 pixels taller than the Camaro in that pic. I suspect the reason the Camaro looked bigger to you is because you zoomed in to admire it more closely .

All in good fun...
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A crop of each of the vehicles reveals the Challenger is 17 pixels longer and 13 pixels taller than the Camaro in that pic. I suspect the reason the Camaro looked bigger to you is because you zoomed in to admire it more closely .

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i have a jeep srt8 and one of my buddies took me for a ride in his zl1 last weekend. The jeep is easier to launch so it will probably hit 60 before a zl1. because its awd 3.73 grearing and auto trans you cant really mess it up. so to answer the question when my buddy launched his zl1 i wasnt really impressed but when it got going it was moving
I'd have to say your buddy hasn't learnt how to launch yet then. I don't know of an SRT8 Jeep that can go 0-60 in 3.8.
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The 6.2 won't be out for quite some time. I would say 2014 at the earliest. Stock for stock the ZL1 will smoke an SRT Jeep. If your use to driving the awd platform it will have a different feel for sure. For myself, I was never really impressed with the SRT8 Jeeps. I sold mine after only three months of ownership.
Yes, seems like a late 2013 production. So I am looking towards the Zl-1 . But since in Saudi Arabia, what happens is you can not get a custom built car. A dealer will order 10 cars in each batch on random setting and they will be sold as it is. I am not too optimistic about finding a black on black A5 with nav.

Hmm Well probably difference of choices, but I absolutley love it. Though I hate its weight, if they were a little lighter then they are one crazy rides!
the AWD on the jeep with its 425 Hp makes up really nice launches and to be honest I have never seen a SUV that beautiful, I smoke cayynes all day long and range rovers. Its a bang for the buck car.

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I don't see how, when compared, one can prefer the chubby black car on the left.


No doubt ZL-1 Is a gorgeous car, but the car above you are comparing to is a R/T .

and I am pretty sure alot of people will agree with me that a challenger looks the most muscle of all. Yes performance wise its not as good as a ZL-1 but looks wise its just gorgeous. Stands out on the road!



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They both are beautiful in their own sense! ( So is a mustang but they are way too lets say repetitive . Like Porsche , lack of new designs.)
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Right now IMO the ZL1 is the better overall car but it cost more. if you really like the looks of the challenger that much better mod one.

when I see that pick above I just see two amazing looking cars. I could go day to day over which one I really like better.

wieght wise it is a wash and the 392 is capable of a similar 1/4 i am sure form a roll it would get smashed. The ZL1 also mods eaier IMO. 3k to 600whp.

handling wise though you will always being playing catch up in the challenger and if you ever did make it is good it would proabbaly ride horrible.
Yes, Zl-1 is a better car I agree. And the bad thing about the Challengers ('11 -present) is that they can not be tuned or supercharged. So regardless of the money, it just isn't possible to take that car to its maximum.

So I guess ZL-1 over challenger anyday in performance plus Challenger is HUGE. Its really hard to turn it at high speeds.

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I'd have to say your buddy hasn't learnt how to launch yet then. I don't know of an SRT8 Jeep that can go 0-60 in 3.8.

I am not really sure, but Camaros get a lot of wheelspin and Jeep doesn't. As soon as you floor it , it gets going! Where as a camaro will spin alot and its hard to keep its back in a straight line. I will have to drive one to know if they can launch better. Yes after the launch it wil smoke the jeep srt8! cuz of the weight and power difference !
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I'd have to say your buddy hasn't learnt how to launch yet then. I don't know of an SRT8 Jeep that can go 0-60 in 3.8.
a stock one no, a procharged one like mine will. 95% of zl1 owners arent going to launch there car to hit 60 in 3.8 seconds
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If I can get this jeep, then bring on any car in the world ! LOL
just look at it launch ! <3
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I will have to drive one to know if they can launch better. Yes after the launch it wil smoke the jeep srt8
if you can master the launch on a zl1 then yea it should launch harder more hp+tq=win. i cant really give you a good comparison because my jeep is procharged 500+ awhp is a different ballgame
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im in the same shoes as u right now

as i'm contemplating on getting a ZL1 over the New SRT-8's

and i also a own a jeep SRT8

Looking for a 2013 auto yellow or white ZL1
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if you can master the launch on a zl1 then yea it should launch harder more hp+tq=win. i cant really give you a good comparison because my jeep is procharged 500+ awhp is a different ballgame
Well 500+ hp jeep is just pure love. I wish I could get mine supercharged, but no one does it here :(
Plus considering it gets 50 C + here in the summer, I don't think its a wise move to get my warrnty void!

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im in the same shoes as u right now

as i'm contemplating on getting a ZL1 over the New SRT-8's

and i also a own a jeep SRT8

Looking for a 2013 auto yellow or white ZL1
Srt8's are beautiful! if the Challenger had the chargers updated interior then I would get it anytime over the zl-1 !
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Old 09-19-2012, 04:23 AM   #18
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my cousin owns a 2012 300C SRT8

beautiful car, compared to its competition its lacking in power

it seems the ZL1 is the way to go now, the thing is i hate the regular camaro
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I realized after I posted that one cannot question aesthetics preference. There is no accounting for "taste". I too, like them both. Which is why I snapped the pic. The "aesthetics" banter is just entertainment.

Chubbiness wise, the reality is that the Challenger is 7 inches longer, 3 inches taller and equally as wide as the ZL1 by published specs. Clearly the Chubby Challenger takes up more space. However, there is irony in calling one or the other "Chubby" because the difference is agreeably, insignificant.

However, while not questioning anyones else's aesthetic preference (again), I humbly feel that the chopped roof, the more aerodynamically angled "C" pillars and rear window, as well as all the other aerodynamic treatments of the ZL1 lend to it looking more "fit" than the Challenger. It just looks more streamlined.

Interesting - I always thought the Camaro looked like a bruiser - that hulking figure in the shadows that wants to relocate your nose to the other side of your head if you look at him wrong, while the Challenger was the classic, hour-glass figure.

Either way, they're both great cars.
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Hi, I figured since the conversation deviated from the question originally asked. Here is a few things you will notice.

The overall interior of the ZL1 is pretty cheap compared to the SRT line up. The seats in your Jeep are way more comfortable, as they are in my Charger. The new 6.4L Hemi clocks in around 465hp to the rear wheels, there might be some power loss with the AWD Grand Cherokee.

The ZL1 is noticeably faster than the 6.1L Hemi. The 2014 SRT Lineup will have two engines available a 6.2L Supercharged and an improved 6.4L Hemi, adding the 8spd ZF transmission improving gas mileage and acceleration.

If you're willing to wait the Chrysler line up might be in your better interest. But its your call...
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Hi, I figured since the conversation deviated from the question originally asked. Here is a few things you will notice.

The overall interior of the ZL1 is pretty cheap compared to the SRT line up. The seats in your Jeep are way more comfortable, as they are in my Charger. The new 6.4L Hemi clocks in around 465hp to the rear wheels, there might be some power loss with the AWD Grand Cherokee.

The ZL1 is noticeably faster than the 6.1L Hemi. The 2014 SRT Lineup will have two engines available a 6.2L Supercharged and an improved 6.4L Hemi, adding the 8spd ZF transmission improving gas mileage and acceleration.

If you're willing to wait the Chrysler line up might be in your better interest. But its your call...

Hey, Thats great info!

I usually roam around challenger forums !
What I would like to see is an interior upgrade to the Challenger! They should take the interior from the charger and throw it in the Challenger! Put the 6.2l supercharged engine! Getting around 550+ HP ! and shed a bit of weight somehow and there is not reason in the world I won't go for it!

Cuz Challengers are Rare as well, here in KSA. You see Camaros on EVERY ROAD. There are 3 parked on my own street but very rarely do you see a challenger so it stands out !

I love the Charger, I saw one the other day ! Srt8 and Wow! It was gorgeous!
not too fan of the new Jeep Srt8 plus its slower then the previous one So I don't like it at all! The Center exhuast was the highlight of the SRT and screwed it up big time!
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idk i like the challenger alot, but the camaro's just look flat out mean especially the ZL1. Looks like a car you have to hide your children from haha
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Maybe it's just me but a 4700lbs Jeep with 1000hp and AWD should be turning better than mid 11's no? Considering Hennessey HPE800 Jeep is running under 11 seconds. Something sounds off.
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it should either the times are wrong or its not 1000hp. mids 11's is around 470 awhp
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Two totally different vehicles, IMO. If the ZL1 runs like Chevy claims (and not some of the real world times I've seen on the forum) it should rip apart the Jeep. What's the SRT8 run, low 13s? An SS should do slightly better than that, although the Jeep has an advantage off the line because of AWD.

I've never driven and SRT, but I have a regular Jeep and I wouldn't want to go around the curves too fast in it. The camaro, on the other hand, should out handle it and get well into the triple digits with ease and stability.
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