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Old 09-18-2012, 06:11 PM   #1
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2012 boss vs. 2012 ls3 ss w/mods

simple question. i have a 2012 boss 302 in my aera who calims his car is the fastest na car here. i must admitt ive see it and its pretty mean. as far as i know it has a cai, and the rest is pretty much stock.
now that being said, i have a 2012 2ss with the ls3 six speed. im installing
american racing full system (long tubes, cut outs, no cats) a hefty cam and a airraid cai, with a custom dyno tune. the car will net 475 to 485 rear wheel on the mustang dyno due to the fact that we have done this same package on a few other ls3 ss camaros. slowhawhawk performance is doing the work his shop car with the same set up in a 2010 posted 11.6 at new englang dragway. do you think i will be abel to take out a 2012 boss edition mustang from a roll or at all for that matter with theses specs.
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Old 09-18-2012, 06:15 PM   #2
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Old 09-18-2012, 06:28 PM   #3
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Kinda strange he would claim to be the fastest N/A around and not be heavily modded. Must be a small town. 11.6 is also a stretch unless you are awesome with that M6 and can get off the line extremely well.

...and Welcome to C5 There is also a 1/4 mile fast time section that you might check out to see what you might run with different mods.
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Kinda strange he would claim to be the fastest N/A around and not be heavily modded. Must be a small town. 11.6 is also a stretch unless you are awesome with that M6 and can get off the line extremely well.
You know small towns everybody knows everyboy.
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Old 09-18-2012, 06:33 PM   #5
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With those mods you should blow his doors off... assuming the tune is good and you really put down 485 rwhp (which is around 570 crank hp). Your competition will be GT500's and ZL1's...
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Old 09-18-2012, 06:35 PM   #6
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Yup... so I say line em up and get it over with...
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Old 09-18-2012, 07:14 PM   #7
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thats cool to know, slowhawk performance in bridgewater ma. is the gm wizzard of my area. he did my 06 avalanche with a 5.3, same american racing set up, procharged,cammed and meth, and it lays 565rwhp and it has for 3 years now without one glitch. in a 7000lb truck. he's one of the best tunners ive met for ls cars around and stands by his work. i also forgot to mention that he recomended a 3.90 lingenfelter rearend. i guess they can send you a complete set up ready to install with your core exchage. this will help with the tall 6th gear in our ls3's and with the cam choice. he qouted me around $1700 so i had him order it but ill have to wait till next month to do the install the rest is going in this week. im dropping it off in the morning. just want to make sure one of our camaros can stuff a new boss and still be na so they cant complain that its has a supercharger.
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Old 09-18-2012, 08:25 PM   #8
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11.60 is no stretch if you have tires and know how to drive! Don't know were came up with that crap, but any cammed ls3 with Boltons and tires is an 11 sec car in the right hands, problem is not allot of good stick drivers out there. That's not the cars fault!

You would destroy that boss! these ls3s are monster na motors when you add a few Boltons and a cam, add tires... You better bring more then a stock boss from a roll the 5th gen is killer, they have great stock gearing for racing at speed! Ask the c5 vette guy I put down a few weeks ago Get that cam in there, practice driving and you'll will be suprized how well these cars run.
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I would think simple bolt on would make it a drivers race. With th e cam, forget about it. Nothing to,worry about unless he is lying about his mods.
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Old 09-18-2012, 09:24 PM   #10
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11.60 is no stretch if you have tires and know how to drive! Don't know were came up with that crap, but any cammed ls3 with Boltons and tires is an 11 sec car in the right hands, problem is not allot of good stick drivers out there. That's not the cars fault!

You would destroy that boss! these ls3s are monster na motors when you add a few Boltons and a cam, add tires... You better bring more then a stock boss from a roll the 5th gen is killer, they have great stock gearing for racing at speed! Ask the c5 vette guy I put down a few weeks ago Get that cam in there, practice driving and you'll will be suprized how well these cars run.
I guess you are referring to my comment as crap, but I think we said almost the same exact thing. I could be wrong..

11.6 is also a stretch unless you are awesome with that M6 and can get off the line extremely well.
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Sorry I was reading fast, kinda took it as you dont think a cammed SS can run those times very easy. Because a 460+rwhp SS is a mid 11 sec car all day, but like you said, not gonna happen unless you can drive!

Just this weekend I raced a LG heads and cam C6 vette... he was trapping 120 and I still took him down! He had a good set of tires on top of it, but the guy could not launch... I did not even get a good launch myself but I still pulled a car in front of the hit and he never cam around me.
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Old 09-18-2012, 09:37 PM   #12
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Yup... I was high 11's with same mods on an auto w/ slightly less HP... but that's hooking w/ DR's and not missing a shift...

...at the time I wrote that it didn't seem like the OP had a lot of track time shifting an M6 too, but he should be able to take his cross town rival..
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Old 09-18-2012, 09:41 PM   #13
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With all that power don't forget about your drive train and suspension. Half shafts, toe links, trailing arms, bushings, etc. or you will just end up breaking stuff trying to put all that power down.

You can also save some money if you order your 3.90 gears from GM since they are available now for the 1LE, $248.

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Old 09-19-2012, 06:43 AM   #15
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well dropping it off this morning. gonna use a set of nitto nt01 or nt555, and i mentioned before i ordered the 390 rear but that will go in next month. see everyone in 10-12 days when i return and ill let you know the results and post a dyno sheet.
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Old 09-19-2012, 08:01 AM   #16
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You can also save some money if you order your 3.90 gears from GM since they are available now for the 1LE, $248.
Good info. Didn't realize you could just order that from GM.....
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Threads like this are kinda pointless.

The car really doesn't matter as much as the driver. And since everyone always thinks they are the best driver on the planet in their own mind, nobody thinks about that part.

The new Boss 302 Mustangs are plenty quick. As for who would when, well...that's impossible to say. Too many variables.
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Old 09-19-2012, 01:03 PM   #19
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i have a 2012 boss 302 in my aera who calims his car is the fastest na car here.
Is his name Even and from Rhode Island? I've seen his posts on a few different forums about racing his new Boss around SE Mass.
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Old 09-19-2012, 03:16 PM   #20
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My brother has a '13 Boss he just picked up. I have a '13 SS with dual mode exhaust. No mods. We ran twice. Once from 50 roll and he pulled me by a car. The second run was from a 20 roll and we were even until the top of 2nd where I am sure he would start pulling. He had a stock '11 GT automatic before the boss and I would pull him pretty good everytime. See my youtube page : bmoore408. With those mods, you will have no issue beating him.
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A SS with those mods will for sure lay the smack down on a boss with just a CAI. But that is car for car assuming equal talent from both drivers. If you have a good driver mod with those upgrades it will be no problem. BTW, you are wasting alot of money with the LPE gears. Like said before you can get the same gears for under 300.
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My brother has a '13 Boss he just picked up. I have a '13 SS with dual mode exhaust. No mods. We ran twice. Once from 50 roll and he pulled me by a car. The second run was from a 20 roll and we were even until the top of 2nd where I am sure he would start pulling. He had a stock '11 GT automatic before the boss and I would pull him pretty good everytime. See my youtube page : bmoore408. With those mods, you will have no issue beating him.
Your car is not trapping 117mph and your brother needs to learn how to drive.
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Your car is not trapping 117mph and your brother needs to learn how to drive.
Interesting...You ford fanboi's really are in denial. The '13s have some very significant upgrades that definitely wake the SS up. My car traps 113 stock. His car traps 115-116 stock. Since the last run, I installed a CAI intake and now our cars are very close from a roll. Im pretty sure my brother knows how to drive, as we have been into racing our whole lives. Watch the video on my youtube page. I pulled his GT pretty go up top, so its not surprising I can hang with his BOSS
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Your car is not trapping 117mph and your brother needs to learn how to drive.
Ya every boss at every run and every driver is going to trap 117 in any weather! Whatever man, this gets so old... I am pretty sure I would have no issue putting down a boss from a roll, and I haven't trapped much over 116 yet. Just like the bull crap with the 392s, last time I seen 2 of them trapping 108 on the same day both autos, to my 114 that day.
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Interesting...You ford fanboi's really are in denial. The '13s have some very significant upgrades that definitely wake the SS up. My car traps 113 stock. His car traps 115-116 stock. Since the last run, I installed a CAI intake and now our cars are very close from a roll. Im pretty sure my brother knows how to drive, as we have been into racing our whole lives. Watch the video on my youtube page. I pulled his GT pretty go up top, so its not surprising I can hang with his BOSS
First of all, just because you race from a roll on the street doesn't make you into racing your whole lives. Second of all, if you're talking about the video of the white SS pulling on an auto GT video, congratulations, you BARELY pulled on that stock AUTO GT. Third of all, calling me a fainboi when you have nothing else for your shit argument is pretty weak. There have not been that many changes done to the 13, let alone any that would let you "keep up" with a Boss. Like I said, your brother needs to learn how to drive. If you're into racing so much, let us see this slip of your car trapping 113 stock and his car trapping 115 stock.

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Ya every boss at every run and every driver is going to trap 117 in any weather! Whatever man, this gets so old... I am pretty sure I would have no issue putting down a boss from a roll, and I haven't trapped much over 116 yet. Just like the bull crap with the 392s, last time I seen 2 of them trapping 108 on the same day both autos, to my 114 that day.
Read what I wrote, I said the car traps 117, hence, why his brother needs to learn how to drive. I'm sure your car could be faster than a Boss, you're pretty modded.
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