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Old 09-20-2012, 07:19 PM   #26
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I thought this car was to get magnetic ride suspension. I must have been dreaming.
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Old 09-20-2012, 07:50 PM   #27
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I thought this car was to get magnetic ride suspension. I must have been dreaming.
Not for 37K. no WAY
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Old 09-20-2012, 08:10 PM   #28
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I thought this car was to get magnetic ride suspension. I must have been dreaming.
The concept had it along with the ZL1 brakes, but that would have added too much to the price.
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Old 09-20-2012, 08:11 PM   #29
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The concept had it along with the ZL1 brakes, but that would have added too much to the price.
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Old 09-20-2012, 08:47 PM   #30
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I like to this review, a lot of pictures and pretty detailed as well. Motor trend always does a good job both on TV and in print
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Old 09-20-2012, 09:19 PM   #31
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Stickier tires could make a bit of a difference in 0 to 60 times... you know, getting out of the hole quicker like when we were in high school.
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Old 09-20-2012, 10:36 PM   #32
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Very nice! I am starting to like what I am hearing about this car. Nicely done GM!
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Old 09-20-2012, 10:57 PM   #33
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For the bucks...clearly the best 5th Gen yet. Did anyone see the comparo with the ZL1 against the Beamer 6 series convertibles. Dang....12.7 is the best they could do with the ZL, but they chose the Camaro as the better car.
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Old 09-20-2012, 11:01 PM   #34
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The concept had it along with the ZL1 brakes, but that would have added too much to the price.
Not only that but it's a track car and I don't think the mag suspension is race legal. It kinda defeats the purpose of a track car you can't race.
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Old 09-21-2012, 06:16 AM   #35
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Nice! Did anyone else notice that the 0-60 and quarter mile times are a bit quicker than the standard SS and different from what it says in the sales brochure???

I had suspected this with the different gear ratios and slightly shorter tires.

Glad they liked it after a whole week of driving it on the roads as well as a track.
Yes we sure did.... see post #4, #5, #6, #7.

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Old 09-21-2012, 12:07 PM   #36
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What's the deal with the references to the trans cooler? My 2010 M6 has a trans cooler unless those two hard lines that go from the trans to the bottom of the rad are something different? What am I missing?

Cool article too btw.
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Old 09-21-2012, 10:33 PM   #37
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Not only that but it's a track car and I don't think the mag suspension is race legal. It kinda defeats the purpose of a track car you can't race.
I think there is a distinct difference between a track car and rce car. The ZL1 is a track car which is why it is designed to perform on the street too. Besides, most race cars are NA, not supercharged so IMO if i were builing a race car a ZL1 would not be my choice to build from. An SS or now the 1lE would be better.
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Old 09-23-2012, 07:00 PM   #38
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Wow, everytime i read a review, i'm loving my future car more and more. Thanks for sharing that awesome cover!
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Old 09-23-2012, 07:05 PM   #39
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Great read & thanks for posting! I'm glad to see the 0-60 and 1/4 mile times were a little quicker than previously noted. Just making me more exciting for when mine gets here
I agree. It must be the sticky tires and higher gear ratio. Makes sense it would be quicker than the SS.
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Old 09-23-2012, 09:48 PM   #40
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Keep in minds GM was trying to get the 1LE into the SCCA and you can't go into any race series with active suspensions on your camaro. I am glad we don't get the MR, costs less, cheaper replacement parts etc.
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Old 10-19-2012, 03:45 PM   #41
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Does anyone know what printed issue this came from? I can't seem to find it.
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Old 10-19-2012, 05:07 PM   #42
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Didnt come out yet, coming next month probably.
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Old 10-19-2012, 05:53 PM   #43
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If I remember correctly these Boss numbers are for the LS...
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Old 10-19-2012, 06:56 PM   #44
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Not for 37K. no WAY
i think the ats has it for 36k but it could be on a higher trim and not the base
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Old 10-19-2012, 08:03 PM   #45
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i think the ats has it for 36k but it could be on a higher trim and not the base
The ATS doesnt have ANYWHERE near the HP we do though
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Old 10-19-2012, 09:26 PM   #46
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The ATS doesnt have ANYWHERE near the HP we do though
Agreed. The ATS is about luxury at the BMW 328 level and not about pure performance like the 1LE.

I just came off of a 335i because I couldn't get anymore performance out of it and I wanted a V8!
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Old 10-19-2012, 09:38 PM   #47
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Agreed. The ATS is about luxury at the BMW 328 level and not about pure performance like the 1LE.

I just came off of a 335i because I couldn't get anymore performance out of it and I wanted a V8!
you wouldnt know all that with the way they portray in the comercials though. if i didnt know any better i would think the ats is gm's new track/street performance car and not the 1le or zl1. but i guess its because they want to sell more cadillac's and they sell plenty of camaro's.
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you wouldnt know all that with the way they portray in the comercials though. if i didnt know any better i would think the ats is gm's new track/street performance car and not the 1le or zl1. but i guess its because they want to sell more cadillac's and they sell plenty of camaro's.
The ATS also appeals to the broader audience vs the 1LE. I suspect, as you keenly mention, the profit margins are much better with the ATS. The other point to remember is that the 1LE appeals to the 2% of the Camaro enthusiast population. That's a very small number to waste marketing $$ on. Think about it, they are manufacturing close to 90 (87) cars per week or barely over 4,680 cars a year! GM sold 8.4 million cars globally in 2010.
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