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Old 09-21-2012, 12:55 PM   #1
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mustang boss 302 or camaro 1le?

Ever scince the mustang boss 302 came out , i considered purchasing one. I loved the way the mustang gt drove and loved that you can see out of the car however the dealership wanted way above sticker. What i hated about the boss , no nav, no leather seats , singe ford break calipers in the rear (looks like they cheeped out), cheap looking 19 inch rims and the solid rear axle was a deal breaker. I drove the camaro 2ss and hated the visibility, actually hated the way the shifter worked both the standard shifter and the hurst shifter. However i loved the way camaro ss looks. I love the brembos on the ss front and rear love the indepedant rear suspension and i like the look of the interior .So I waited for the for over a year once i heard about the 1LE. And September 7 2012 walked into a chevy dealership and ordered 2ss in asheen gray metallic w rs package nav package and duel exhaust. Im happy i did so now reading about the great reviews.
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Old 09-21-2012, 12:56 PM   #2
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boss 302 or camaro 1le?
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Old 09-21-2012, 01:08 PM   #3
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Seeing as this is a Camaro site, I'm betting the large majority will vote 1LE. It seems you favor the Camaro over the Mustang so I would say get the 1LE.
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Old 09-21-2012, 02:18 PM   #4
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Honestly, I like my camaro and I have a 1LE on order, but the BOSS is still a better car in my opinion. I had a chance to drive my brothers '13 and that car is a blast. It revs high, screams up top, and sounds amazing, looks badass and will be faster than the 1LE. You got to ask yourself if the premium is worth it.
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Old 09-21-2012, 02:31 PM   #5
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Honestly, I like my camaro and I have a 1LE on order, but the BOSS is still a better car in my opinion. I had a chance to drive my brothers '13 and that car is a blast. It revs high, screams up top, and sounds amazing, looks badass and will be faster than the 1LE. You got to ask yourself if the premium is worth it.
I have to agree that the BOSS sounds better than the Camaro.
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Old 09-21-2012, 02:35 PM   #6
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The boss 302 is 4 sec slower than the 1LE around VIR. The premium on the boss 302 is not worth it! add to a 1le $400 cold air intake 15hp+ $1850 american racing headers with highflow cats and xpipe 35hp+ without a tune and 50hp+ with a tune. For $2250 or $2500 with a tune the 1le will beat the boss in a strait line and on a race track.
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Old 09-21-2012, 02:35 PM   #7
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BOSS will marginally; at best, outperform the 1LE in a straight line only for thousands more. Get the 1LE and spend the difference on mods that will make it murder a BOSS in any condition. IMO
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Old 09-21-2012, 02:36 PM   #8
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Old 09-21-2012, 02:40 PM   #9
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Old 09-21-2012, 03:20 PM   #10
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The boss 302 is 4 sec slower than the 1LE around VIR. The premium on the boss 302 is not worth it! add to a 1le $400 cold air intake 15hp+ $1850 american racing headers with highflow cats and xpipe 35hp+ without a tune and 50hp+ with a tune. For $2250 or $2500 with a tune the 1le will beat the boss in a strait line and on a race track.
You are comparing a HERO run from GM vs a lighting lap from a mag. Dont be blind. The cars will perform close on a track but the BOSS will outperform in a straight line. I love my car and look forward to my 1LE but the BOSS will be hard to beat.
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Old 09-21-2012, 03:43 PM   #11
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would love to see car and driver drive the 1LE in thier lighting lap comparo and in motor trends best handling car comparo.
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Old 09-21-2012, 03:47 PM   #12
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Honestly, I like my camaro and I have a 1LE on order, but the BOSS is still a better car in my opinion. I had a chance to drive my brothers '13 and that car is a blast. It revs high, screams up top, and sounds amazing, looks badass and will be faster than the 1LE. You got to ask yourself if the premium is worth it.
The Boss is the better engine, but NOT the better car.
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Old 09-21-2012, 03:55 PM   #13
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would love to see car and driver drive the 1LE in thier lighting lap comparo and in motor trends best handling car comparo.
Exactly. Dont believe much into what GM says. See ZL1...no one has achieved the sub 11 they claim bone stock. Lets put the cars in drivers hands in real world test and see how they do. The 1LE is VERY capable and is a awesome car.
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Old 09-21-2012, 10:27 PM   #14
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The Boss is the better engine, but NOT the better car.
Just because it makes more HP doesnt mean t is better. It lacks torque, even with less HP the LS3 has more torque and Mototr Trend just ran a 4.3 second 0-60. I for one prfer torque over a slightly higher reving DOC engine.
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Old 09-21-2012, 10:38 PM   #15
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Just because it makes more HP doesnt mean t is better. It lacks torque, even with less HP the LS3 has more torque and Mototr Trend just ran a 4.3 second 0-60. I for one prfer torque over a slightly higher reving DOC engine.
It's also heavier than the LS3.
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Old 09-25-2012, 04:34 PM   #16
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Old 09-25-2012, 05:15 PM   #17
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Just because it makes more HP doesnt mean t is better. It lacks torque, even with less HP the LS3 has more torque and Mototr Trend just ran a 4.3 second 0-60. I for one prfer torque over a slightly higher reving DOC engine.
They also got 4.0 0-60 for the boss. From that very article.

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The 3860-pound 1LE posts admirable track numbers, too. Getting to 60 mph from nil takes 4.3 seconds; a quarter mile arrives in 12.7 seconds at 111.8 mph; braking from 60 mph to a standstill takes 101 feet. Most impressive: It achieved a 1.03 g average on the skidpad (for reference, that's stickier than a 2012 Audi R8 GT) and traced our figure eight in 24.2 seconds at an average 0.83 g. Before you Google "2012 Mustang Boss 302 Motor Trend", here are the 'Stang specs you seek: 3640 pound curb weight; 4.0 seconds from 0 to 60 mph; quarter-mile in 12.4 seconds at 115 mph; 60 mph to 0 in 106 feet; 1.0 g skidpad average; figure eight in 24.6 seconds at 0.81 g average. Feel free to discuss below.
Keep in different days and probably different conditions, but still, mightly impressive and why the 1LE is my favorite 5th gen
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Old 09-25-2012, 05:35 PM   #18
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Ask a dumb question on a Camaro site and expect people to say Boss (REALLY). Then say something positive about a ford product. Mother of all stupidness. I am amazed you have a job that can afford a 1LE.
It's not a dumb question. Not all C5 members are close-minded to the idea that other performance cars might be equal, or even better (gasp!) than the 5th gen Camaros.

I haven't driven a 1LE. I have driven a Boss. They are bad ass, and I would own one if i could justify the cost. That price level is a crowded field. You have the Boss Mustang, loaded Camaro 1LE, and the Challenger SRT8 392. Take your pick. All three are awesome cars.
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The boss 302 is 4 sec slower than the 1LE around VIR. The premium on the boss 302 is not worth it! add to a 1le $400 cold air intake 15hp+ $1850 american racing headers with highflow cats and xpipe 35hp+ without a tune and 50hp+ with a tune. For $2250 or $2500 with a tune the 1le will beat the boss in a strait line and on a race track.
With some Boss 302s trapping 117mph with just tires I doubt that bro sorry. And 50hp from those mods in the real world it is more like 35 to 40hp.
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Ask a dumb question on a Camaro site and expect people to say Boss (REALLY). Then say something positive about a ford product. Mother of all stupidness. I am amazed you have a job that can afford a 1LE.
That's kind of rude.
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Old 09-26-2012, 08:02 AM   #21
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That's kind of rude.
Deleted, and I agree.
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Old 10-03-2012, 11:39 AM   #22
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I have an '11 Mustang GT with the track package (Brembo), I admired the BOSS. But believe me for the price the 1LE is a great car. Track ready and has faster lap times at the track than the Laguna. The only thing is that I prefer the looks of the regular SS Camaro. I'm planing to replace my 5.0 for a 1LE but I'm planing to do some changes to the exterior, I don't like the black vinil on the hood or the rear black spoiler compared to a nice looking stock SS or the great looking Transformer edition.
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Old 10-03-2012, 11:42 AM   #23
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Since you came to a camaro site and asked this question, you have already made your decision.
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Old 10-03-2012, 02:25 PM   #24
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The Boss is very nice but it's now overpriced for what it is. Dealers marking it up to $55-60K aren't helping matters either. It's too bad it couldn't just be a $5000 or so add-on package upgrade to avoid the dealer rip-off. But I'm glad Ford did build it because it forced GM to develop the 1LE.
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Old 10-04-2012, 01:15 PM   #25
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Funny.. Ford builds the mighty Boss to beat the vaunted M3 at Laguna Seca, then Chevy builds the 1LE to beat the Laguna Seca Boss at Virginia Int'l Raceway with just an option package, well done... what's next?

OK, I know, someone will say the 1LE driver at VIR was a pro... an engineer that can drive too, actually. And the Lightning Lap drivers in the Boss LS at VIR are no slouches. Car and Driver takes the best lap from their five best drivers... the difference in drivers can't be four seconds, right. I expect the 1LE to better the Boss by a couple of seconds in the next Lightning Lap test... wonder if they will also lap the 1LE under 3 minutes at VIR... stay tuned.
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