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Old 09-21-2012, 08:07 PM   #1
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Quick check before I get everything together and proceed

Here's my game plan, input if I am wrong in your opinion or if there's just an easier way to go about this is very welcome.


Buy:
-Speedy's Clay Prep Towel w/ spray lubricant
-Griot's Garage Paint Sealant
-Griot's Garage Best of Show Wax
-Random Orbital Polisher

Now the game plan:

Wash car and dry w/ drying towel

Use the clay prep towel to prep the paint and get contaminents out, then right afterwards use the random orbital polisher w/ the paint sealant.

After removal of the paint sealant, I plan on using the orbital polisher with the Best of Show Wax.

After roughly 3-4 days, weather depending, I plan on re-washing the car and drying w/ my normal spray detailer, then enjoying the results.

I do have two questions...for those of you who have used a R.O.P., do you use it for applying and taking off the sealant/wax? Also, how long, in your opinion, should the sealant and wax be left on before removal?
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Honestly I'd skip the polisher right now. You don't need to apply sealant or wax with a polisher. Doing it by hand is plenty sufficient. Hang on to the money until you're going to actually do some polishing.

Everything else looks good. I have a couple suggestions. One, you want to let the sealant set for 15-20 minutes before removing. Second, allow the sealant to cure for 12 hours before applying anything over top of it. A lot of times sealants will haze over again after time. So apply the sealant, the next morning, go over the car with waterless wash or detail spray to remove any dust, and then apply your wax. I'd recommend even going a step further, doing two coats of sealant then topping it with wax. You'll love those results.



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Old 09-21-2012, 08:59 PM   #3
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OK, thanks CD07. everything else looks all in order though?
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OK, thanks CD07. everything else looks all in order though?
Dang you're fast lol. I added some more to it.

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I'd definitely look at getting a couple quality polishes and polish the car in between the claying and sealing/waxing. You will be blown away by the change in your paint.
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I would love to get some polishing....but there's one problem...

I live in a neighborhood with about 4-5 trees covering the driveway, street, house, etc. basically a sub division in the middle of a small forest. Since within an hour, leaves, berries, bird poop (on a bad day) will touch my paint, how can I leave the sealant on for the longest amount of time and still not have to worry about these natural elements on my paint when I take the sealant off? I want to leave the sealant on for 12 hours but I honestly think that it is going to put too many tree debris on my paint job. Maybe for 6 hours two seperate times? I have a car cover, could I put that over it?
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I would love to get some polishing....but there's one problem...

I live in a neighborhood with about 4-5 trees covering the driveway, street, house, etc. basically a sub division in the middle of a small forest. Since within an hour, leaves, berries, bird poop (on a bad day) will touch my paint, how can I leave the sealant on for the longest amount of time and still not have to worry about these natural elements on my paint when I take the sealant off? I want to leave the sealant on for 12 hours but I honestly think that it is going to put too many tree debris on my paint job. Maybe for 6 hours two seperate times? I have a car cover, could I put that over it?
No, no no. You don't want to leave the sealant on for that long without buffing off. 30 minutes or so, max.
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Ok, then what is all this talk about leaving sealant/wax on for hours at a time? Did I get the wax and sealant steps confused?
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nevermind, i just read your post again CD07 and I now understand the 12 hour thing. My bad on that one bud.
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Ok, then what is all this talk about leaving sealant/wax on for hours at a time? Did I get the wax and sealant steps confused?
Generally speaking:

When working with a sealant, you apply, let it cure for about 30 minutes, then buff off. Sealants a lot of times will cure again over the next 12 hours though. So it's good practice to wipe it off again with a detail spray the next morning.

That's also why I generally recommend you wait 12 hours between coats of sealant. Let them completely cure before you put anything over top of it.

You were just skipping a step, but you're definitely on the right track.
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Hey, in case you haven't bought it yet, I would just get the Speedy Prep Towel (FINE Grade) by itself. Instead of paying 5-20 dollars extra for the clay lube, get ONR (optimum no rinse) instead. Put 2 ounces in a gallon and you get clay lube. And it has a thousand other uses too!

I think you would be much happier with the ONR rather than the DP clay lube http://www.autogeek.net/optimum-no-rinse.html
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I just got it in the mail 2 days ago! hahaha. But the input is always welcome. Thanks buddy
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no problem, if you finish using your clay lube, switch to ONR! Much more economical!
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Just got done with the washing, drying and paint prep with the speedys' paint prep clay towel. I must say that was much faster due to having a bigger surface area on the towel to work with. It took roughly 25-30 mins, and half of that was wiping off the spray w/ my MF towel. I ended up having to cut it short since it is 40% chance of rain, and getting higher throughout the evening. I don't want to have the sealant on there and have it sprinkle on and off like it has been.

When I was done I just washed the clay towel with a small amount of dish soap along with my Griots Garage MF waffle weave drying towel and they are both air drying now. So far, so good! I will get the 2 seals out tomorrow, but leaving on for 8+ hrs won't be feasible....maybe 4hrs in between the applications. Would this make a big difference?
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Just got done with the washing, drying and paint prep with the speedys' paint prep clay towel. I must say that was much faster due to having a bigger surface area on the towel to work with. It took roughly 25-30 mins, and half of that was wiping off the spray w/ my MF towel. I ended up having to cut it short since it is 40% chance of rain, and getting higher throughout the evening. I don't want to have the sealant on there and have it sprinkle on and off like it has been.

When I was done I just washed the clay towel with a small amount of dish soap along with my Griots Garage MF waffle weave drying towel and they are both air drying now. So far, so good! I will get the 2 seals out tomorrow, but leaving on for 8+ hrs won't be feasible....maybe 4hrs in between the applications. Would this make a big difference?

MAybe, maybe not. Hard to say. Another option you have is to put one coat on, buff off, then wait to do the next coat until you do the next wash. That way you make sure you have enough time between coats, and you won't be losing anything by waiting a week between applications really.
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Just got done with the washing, drying and paint prep with the speedys' paint prep clay towel. I must say that was much faster due to having a bigger surface area on the towel to work with. It took roughly 25-30 mins, and half of that was wiping off the spray w/ my MF towel. I ended up having to cut it short since it is 40% chance of rain, and getting higher throughout the evening. I don't want to have the sealant on there and have it sprinkle on and off like it has been.

When I was done I just washed the clay towel with a small amount of dish soap along with my Griots Garage MF waffle weave drying towel and they are both air drying now. So far, so good! I will get the 2 seals out tomorrow, but leaving on for 8+ hrs won't be feasible....maybe 4hrs in between the applications. Would this make a big difference?
Nice!

I would look at the speedy towel prep's cover however. It specifically says not to use normal dish soap, only water. I don't know why, but there probably is a reason.

As for your question, I don't think it's going to hurt if you wait 4 hrs instead of 8. It shouldn't be that big of a deal.
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Alright guys, I've used the towel and applied the first layer of sealant. Here are some pictures and what they are:
1-Just starting
2-After the speedy prep towel. If you look closely enough you can see the orange peel showing in the paint. (this product really made my paint smooth, words just can't describe it)
3-half the hood sealed, starting to apply the rest
4-side shot of the whole car sealed (kinda looked flat black)
5-7th pictures are the car finished. The paint literally looked "wet"...almost like you were looking into a lake, especially on flat horizantal parts such as the hood, roof, trunk and the "hips" of the car.

I'm going to use the speedy's detail spray and go back over it in the AM, since I saw some light swirl marks later on in the evening after the car had time to let the sealant "cure".
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I'm a little confused on what you mean by going over it again to fix swirl marks. Nothing you did there has anything to do with fixing swirl marks...
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well, maybe i didn't come across right. When it cooled down, i could see some spots where the sealant started to haze again. sorry for any confusion, PINKS was on when i wrote this post....hahahaha
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well, maybe i didn't come across right. When it cooled down, i could see some spots where the sealant started to haze again. sorry for any confusion, PINKS was on when i wrote this post....hahahaha
you know, I had a sealant haze on me twice for the first time a couple days ago. I don't even know what I did different than all the previous times lol

but glad you got it all sorted out, car looks great
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thanks guys. I took another picture of me kneeling beside the car, and it honestly looks like a dark mirror. i couldn't of done without y'alls input. I'll post more pictures after the 2nd seal application and after the wax application.
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Didn't get to put on the 2nd coat of sealant today... :/ My mid shift schedule and the fast ending days worked against me. Hopefully tomorrow will be the 2nd coat, and within 4-5 days will be the best of show wax.

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Just got done with the 2nd coat of sealant. I must say that the first coat is surely doing it's job, since the second coat did not have an easy time going on. The paint didn't "soak" it up this time.
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Just got done with the 2nd coat of sealant. I must say that the first coat is surely doing it's job, since the second coat did not have an easy time going on. The paint didn't "soak" it up this time.
what sealant did you use? This isn't supposed to happen as far as I know, because most sealants are designed to be able to be layered on top of itself.
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